[00:02:19] <Reedy>	 Indeed
[11:08:31] <andhoy>	 Hi guys,  what options do I have to create a multi-site with n numbers of independent wikis?
[11:10:09] <rxy>	 !farm | andhoy
[11:10:09] <wm-bot>	 andhoy: To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family> If you run a farm or want to, join the mailing list: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikifarm>
[11:10:38] <andhoy>	 awesome rxy,  thanks
[11:11:45] <rxy>	 np
[12:15:31] <andhoy>	 hum, is ldap auth broken for the time being? 
[12:19:07] <andre__>	 See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication
[12:39:54] <matsalleh92>	 Hello. I am having a problem where users from my university's domain name cannot confirm their email addresses. I have tried to copy-pasting the link and increasing the expire time with $wgUserEmailConfirmationTokenExpiry = 600; I have set the timezones with $wgLocaltimezone = "Europe/London"; and date_default_timezone_set( $wgLocaltimezone );. Any email with leeds.ac.uk does not work, but hotmail/gmail etc work fine. Ay ideas
[12:51:07] <Platonides>	 have they looked in the spam folder?
[12:51:26] <Platonides>	 is the leeds.ac.uk mail server accepting your emails?
[12:51:29] <matsalleh92>	 Sorry I should have clarified. They receive the email, but get "invalid code" every time
[12:51:35] <Platonides>	 oh
[12:51:48] <Platonides>	 that's completely different :)
[12:51:59] <matsalleh92>	 Yes my mistake.
[12:52:32] <Platonides>	 600 = 10 minutes
[12:52:37] <Platonides>	 the value is in seconds
[12:52:43] <matsalleh92>	 Is there some reason it would generate invalid confirmation codes for certain email addresses?
[12:53:00] <Platonides>	 the default of 7 days would be better for you imho
[12:53:15] <matsalleh92>	 @Platonides. Yes I increased it because I thought it might be timing out because of slow email servers.
[12:53:50] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: Okay will increase.
[12:54:14] <Platonides>	 matsalleh92: the default is 604800
[12:54:19] <Platonides>	 you have decreased it
[12:54:59] <Platonides>	 I don't see how it it wouldn't work just for certain email addresses
[12:55:20] <Platonides>	 is it possible that the mail server is corrupting the url ?
[12:56:10] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: I thought that but I cannot see how. It is the same length etc. Could it be to do with char encoding?
[12:56:38] <Platonides>	 it doesn't make sense for the server to do that
[12:56:39] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: I have increased the expiry value and behaviour is same. Still invalid.
[12:57:00] <Platonides>	 but I can't think of a reason why confirmation emails to leeds.ac.uk would work differently
[12:57:42] <Platonides>	 sometimes AV systems change the links to go through a gateway
[12:57:55] <Platonides>	 but the links are the same
[12:58:03] <Platonides>	 otherwise, it wouldn't work
[12:58:13] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: Is is possible it thinks it is spam and is blocking? How are the confirmation codes generated?
[12:58:55] <Platonides>	 but they see the links, and they lead to your wiki, don't they?
[12:59:00] <Platonides>	 it's a random string...
[12:59:31] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: Hmm, not based on a hash of the email or anything? I guess that would make it less secure....
[12:59:57] <Platonides>	 no
[13:00:02] <Platonides>	 not that it would matter...
[13:00:04] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: Yes they lead right to the wiki.
[13:00:36] <Platonides>	 maybe a part of the confirmation string appears on the next line for them?
[13:05:02] <matsalleh92>	 It doesn't appear that way. Looks normal and on one line to me.
[13:05:44] <Platonides>	 does it fail for you?
[13:06:05] <matsalleh92>	 Yes
[13:06:08] <Platonides>	 (on a leeds email)
[13:06:12] <matsalleh92>	 Yes
[13:06:27] <Platonides>	 what is the error message?
[13:06:56] <Platonides>	 is it possible that a AV scan automatically clicked on the link, and thus when the users goes to do that manually, it has already been used?
[13:07:31] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: That is a very clever idea.
[13:08:38] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: And highly possible, although I have no idea how to check/stop?
[13:09:07] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: Perhaps I could exclude the invalidate email link in the message that's sent out?
[13:11:05] <matsalleh92>	 The error is "Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired. "
[13:18:15] <matsalleh92>	 Platonides: Genius! I removed the invalidate link from MediaWiki:ConfirmEmail body. This has fixed it. We are using a very common email server (office365) is this worth reporting as a possible bug?
[13:27:09] <Platonides>	 yes, I think it is worth opening a bug about it
[17:09:54] <yurb>	 Hi everyone. I'm sorry if it's a dump question. If I understand correctly, MediaWiki uses binary character set for many fields. I'm curious - how does MediaWiki handle sorting then? 
[17:10:34] <yurb>	 According to: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/maintenance/tables.sql
[17:16:44] <Reedy>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/includes/collation/Collation.php
[17:43:45] <yurb>	 Reedy: So it generates separate sort keys and stores them in the db?
[17:44:21] <Reedy>	 That sounds about right, yeah