[00:16:53] hi, there is option to do template such as: {{do| first| second}}, and inside template:do create page with the name "second" which will be redirect to page named "first"? [00:28:30] Hello; I'm trying to set up an Infobox template to use on some pages and I might be mis-reading the user guide; I have a page called Template:Infobox however if I don't have the

around the information I get a Template Loop Detected warning [00:29:27] Derpy_: you would have to provide more information [00:29:30] is your wiki public? [00:30:30] Can I send you the link for it? Maybe you can see what I did wrong [00:35:07] This is my Template:Infobox page source: https://dpaste.de/rnWp I'm not sure what might be causing the issue for when I try to use it on another page but it just shows this box when attempting to use it on another page [00:40:03] Derpy__: I am leaving now [00:40:10] how to adapt Skin:Tweeki to boostrap's last version? [00:40:11] perhaps some other user can have a look [00:40:20] *lastest [00:40:48] feel free to come tomorrow if you can't fix it [00:45:11] Hello! Can you help me with organization of wiki on VPS? How's better to organize control of the changes I've made and backups? [00:45:14] thanks [00:45:41] I need to understand what change leads to crash :) [00:46:01] git and cron [00:46:06] and if I don't understand, fast upload from backup [00:46:58] git for whole server/ [00:46:59] ? [00:47:18] cron backup for www and mysql? [00:47:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Restoring_a_wiki_from_backup [00:47:38] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [00:47:55] that's 1 way :) [00:48:10] thanks :) [00:48:18] and the other way? [00:48:37] use 3rd software [00:48:58] *using [00:49:32] like Jenkins or something like that? [00:51:00] isnt that mostly for testing? [00:51:08] anyway, I'm just a noob [00:51:57] but db backup + backup upload directory works flawless [00:52:13] *importing [00:56:35] I need to understand, how is better to organize it, because I think simple backup of the folder and mysql dump is too oldschool, but I am not sure. I heard a lot of words around me, like "continuous integration", and somewhere there is the right answer, but I don't understand where... I am noob too :) [00:58:17] do you plan to follow the upstream release cycle? [01:01:27] actually, I don't understand what are you talking about. I am just googling instructions and bought VPS for personal usage :) I am not an IT student and don't understand good mechanics of development, just trying to solve personal ideas [01:01:54] so any cycle is good, I think [01:02:08] anyone currently running MW on OpenBSD? [01:02:42] I imagine itd work fine on any *nix [01:03:30] We optionally use the timeout command. Im not sure if thats in default openbsd userland or not [01:03:44] , no need. MediaWiki's docs are awesome. [01:04:47] what OS do you plan running? [01:06:04] I am using Ubuntu [01:06:54] Just installed MediaWiki, but it seems wrong version. I have 1.33 alpha [01:07:01] or something like that [01:07:52] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-mediawiki-on-ubuntu-14-04 [01:08:15] 1.33 is a dev release [01:08:44] lastest stable is 1.31.1 [01:09:10] did I change the topic? wtf? [01:09:32] actually, it's my first installation and usage of MW. Logged in and installed couple of plugins. But manually. Did'nt found Package manager for plugins. [01:09:57] nope. [01:10:31] all extensions have to be installed manually, I think [01:10:51] that would be a nice feature btw [01:15:29] , so basically, first you secure your VPS (firewall + SSH pub key auth) and then you just need to install a webserver (apache/nginx/httpd/etc), php and a db server (usually mariadb) [01:16:03] you can read tons of tuts on digital ocean's website [01:16:50] https://www.howtoforge.com/ [01:17:04] this one is Okay too [01:17:35] looks like you changed the topic to the existing topic... weird [01:17:36] https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-install-mediawiki-with-nginx-on-ubuntu-1604/ [01:17:40] whatever [01:17:44] I've used this manual [01:18:11] so got alpha build with composer [01:18:51] somewhere I heard a thing about composer, that is not so secure to using it [01:19:16] so actually I am already thinking about reinstalling everything to LTS [01:20:44] but I was looking for plugins and saw Visulal editor plugin, that tells me to use latest development build [01:21:21] and Visual editor requires Parsoid, that requires Node.js [01:21:24] lul [01:21:46] so with Node.js I am stuck [01:21:57] It seems I don't need Visual editor [01:22:23] do a fresh installation [01:22:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download [01:22:56] these are the stable releases [01:23:16] recommended for noobs like myself :) [01:25:38] take a look. There is a site - Liquipedia.net. They have their sources, hosted at Github - (https://github.com/Liquipedia). How do they use it? I don't think they are manually making it [01:26:33] https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Special:Version [01:26:46] custom version of mw [01:27:10] nice layout btw [01:28:06] wow. BIG thanks. Now I understand where to look [01:30:45] any skin expert online right now? [01:31:17] yeah. Basically I saw really great versions of MediaWiki on game knowledge base sites, like Liquipedia, Gamepedia etc. [01:32:55] http://gtav.wikia.com/wiki/GTA_V_Wiki [01:33:14] wikia is powered by MW [01:33:21] nice to know [01:33:44] yeah, Wikia too :) https://lol.gamepedia.com/League_of_Legends_Esports_Wiki [01:35:32] take a look. Here is more interesting https://lol.gamepedia.com/Special:Version [01:37:15] they use MW but Hydra is closed source I think [01:37:16] https://help.gamepedia.com/What_is_Hydra [01:48:44] wikia is so far divorced from mw these days that I'd hesitate to call it an example of mw; they forked it ages ago and have diverged significantly since then [01:53:39] yeah, based on 1.19 lol [01:54:37] , sorry to bother you, but how well do you know MW's skins? [01:54:49] I'm trying to create a custom one [01:55:42] but not sure how is the best to start [01:55:55] I already read the 3-part tutorial [02:17:59] sysadmin_wannabe: best place to start is copy an existing skin and tweak it from there (don't modify an existing skin in-place, but copy it to a new name so that future upgrades won't overwrite your customizations) [02:18:33] just try things and see how they work [02:19:23] you'll likely need to dig deep into the generated DOM structure to see where each component is and how they fit together, as well as the skinning bits of mediawiki's PHP code to see what inputs you're being passed and what sort of outputs you need to have [02:19:24] yeah, but for example how do I change the look of user's preference menu [02:19:37] depends what you mean by "change the look" [02:19:45] but the vast majority of things can be done with just pure CSS [02:20:12] it's only once you want to start rearranging things, adding things, or removing things that you'd need to write any PHP [02:20:14] nice, nice [02:20:38] yeah, I like Vector skin a lot [02:20:54] but is much associated with wikipedia [02:21:18] *is too [02:26:48] ty, [02:26:55] gonna try :) [02:27:30] perhaps, I should based it on Vector [02:27:50] because of VE compability [02:28:11] compatibility [12:03:06] Hi all. Could someone send a basic vhost configuration please? [12:04:33] Surfer: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family#Drupal-style_sites ? [12:05:10] andre__ thank you :) [18:16:26] sup hackers :) [18:23:15] so much hacking [18:56:01] yoz [22:19:27] Hello!