[02:59:26] <sparr>	 I am using a small template and when I do "foo {{thetemplate}} bar" I get "foocontentsofthetemplatebar". How can I preserve the spaces outside of {{template}}?
[04:00:27] <sparr>	 aha! my leading space was being eaten by a [[Category at the start of my template
[04:05:03] <sparr>	 how does wikipedia change edit links to "view source" for users that can't edit certain pages?
[04:08:57] <Haley>	 Hi sparr.
[04:09:05] <Haley>	 MediaWiki does that when a page is protected.
[04:09:22] <Haley>	 It checks the visitor's access and then shows appropriate tabs. For admins, it will be "edit".
[04:34:24] <sparr>	 is there any way to accomplish the same for all users who don't have edit permission at all?
[05:13:13] <sparr>	 separate problem... for some reason my {{Category|foo}} template here causes the list items to break into a new paragraph, but it works fine if I put it somewhere that isn't part of a list. What have I done wrong? https://www.modesofdiscourse.com/wiki/Category:Social_network
[05:16:55] <sparr>	 lgot it, I needed to move the includeonly section to the top of my template and remove whitespace between top level tags
[14:07:29] <mnnn>	 hello?
[14:07:54] <mnnn>	 can i ask?
[14:07:54] <wm-bot>	 Hi mnnn, just ask! There is no need to ask if you can ask, if you already asked the question please wait for someone to respond
[14:09:06] <mnnn>	 if i ate myself would i be twice at big or just disappear?
[17:06:24] <niso>	 hi, there is option to add page(File) to category not from the page itself?
[18:05:08] <niso>	 there is any limit of category number in wiki? something that may affect on performence? im talking about 10k categories+-
[18:08:06] <biberao>	 138
[18:11:56] <Reedy>	 niso: Don't think so
[18:12:48] <niso>	 ty
[19:11:25] <sparr>	 in the DynamicPageList3 documentation they give an example template parameter of |nottitlematch=%e%|%u% but my wiki doesn't like that pipe, it interprets it as a new parameter. Is there a way to use that?
[19:16:58] <niso>	 maybe pipe template {{|}}?
[19:17:13] <Skizzerz>	 {{!}}
[19:17:18] <Skizzerz>	 exclamation mark in there, not a pipe
[19:17:33] <niso>	 yep, meant that, mb
[19:51:48] <niso>	 anyone know solution that allow to query pages with " and ' in the names? with cargo extension
[19:57:39] <niso>	 the best one ive got untill now is to set "{{param}}" if param contains ', and set '{{param}}' if param contains "    :(
[19:59:29] <biberao>	 thats advanced
[19:59:30] <biberao>	 :D
[20:23:19] <sparr>	 thanks Skizzerz that did it
[22:29:39] <biberao>	 wow
[22:29:47] <biberao>	 is mediawiki always on bleeding edge?
[22:29:47] <biberao>	 :D
[22:30:01] <biberao>	 MediaWiki 1.33/wmf.9
[22:31:07] <Krenair>	 biberao, Wikimedia sites run a very up-to-date copy of MediaWiki
[22:31:51] <Krenair>	 that particular version dates from last week
[22:32:16] <Krenair>	 a new version is scheduled for the week of 7th Jan, usually they're every week
[22:32:32] <biberao>	 thats nice
[22:32:46] <biberao>	 how is the new version developing?
[22:38:44] <Krenair>	 what do you mean biberao ?
[22:41:27] <biberao>	 like lots of improvements?
[22:41:39] <biberao>	 and also is there an extension to accept the cookies
[22:41:45] <biberao>	 its the new EU law?
[22:42:19] <biberao>	 nvm found it
[22:43:56] <biberao>	 cookiewarning
[22:43:56] <biberao>	 :D
[22:45:30] <Krenair>	 biberao, you'd have to ask each of the developers involved
[22:45:45] <Krenair>	 people just get their stuff merged to master and it'll go out in the next release
[22:46:05] <Krenair>	 I don't think there's a central register of what people hope to get into the next release
[22:46:17] <Krenair>	 and by release I mean wmf branch cut for deployment to wikimedia sites
[22:46:59] <biberao>	 ok thanks
[23:40:13] <biberao>	 Krenair: can we add a checkbox for asking if user is over 16 for registering?
[23:42:52] <biberao>	 and also export an rss feed?