[01:10:39] <biberao>	 hi
[01:10:53] <biberao>	 is it possible to populate a db with a localsettings file without the webinstaller?
[01:11:53] <Haley>	 Hi biberao.
[01:12:05] <Haley>	 You mean storing settings in the database instead of in LocalSettings.php?
[01:12:10] <Platonides>	 what do you mean?
[01:12:15] <Haley>	 Or you mean generating LocalSettings.php without using the Web UI installer?
[01:12:45] <Platonides>	 Or importing data in the db from eg. a XML dump ?
[01:13:22] <biberao>	 Haley: no like
[01:13:28] <biberao>	 i have the localsettings
[01:13:35] <biberao>	 database created and all
[01:13:42] <biberao>	 but didnt do the installer
[01:13:54] <Haley>	 Why do you need the installer if you have a settings file and the database? :-)
[01:13:55] <biberao>	 i used an old and then modified the localsettings
[01:14:05] <Platonides>	 then you're fine
[01:14:13] <Haley>	 Is something broken?
[01:14:15] <biberao>	 no
[01:14:20] <biberao>	 i havent tried yet
[01:14:28] <Haley>	 Okay. Well...
[01:14:29] <Haley>	 !tias
[01:14:29] <wm-bot>	 Try it and see. You learn much more by experimentation than by asking without having even tried.
[01:14:33] <Haley>	 (o:
[01:15:05] <Haley>	 Platonides: Hi! Happy new year, &c.
[01:15:06] <biberao>	 oki ;)
[01:15:09] <biberao>	 thanks
[01:15:13] <Platonides>	 biberao: the installer will make you a basic LocalSettings.php
[01:15:24] <Platonides>	 but you could create it manually, too
[01:15:26] <Haley>	 Platonides: I'm trying to lure someone into making a version of https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/11/business/trade-war.html
[01:15:36] <Platonides>	 Happy new year, Haley 
[01:15:38] <Haley>	 That compares Wikimedia chapter budgets to the Wikimedia Foundation Inc. budget.
[01:15:48] <Haley>	 I could do it myself, but it sounds like work.
[01:15:49] <Platonides>	 new nick :P
[01:15:58] <Haley>	 Of course.
[01:16:12] <Platonides>	 Your browser does not support WebGL.
[01:16:13] <Platonides>	 Please enable it or try another browser.
[01:16:20] <Haley>	 Oh, boo.
[01:16:23] <Platonides>	 that seems easy to implement ;)
[01:16:26] <biberao>	 how do i enable OOUI?
[01:16:44] <biberao>	 i cant get it enabled i tried to issue it directly on js
[01:16:45] <biberao>	 weird
[01:16:45] <biberao>	 :|
[01:17:00] <Haley>	 Which version of MediaWiki are you running?
[01:17:08] <biberao>	 1.31
[01:17:22] <Haley>	 I think there's some separate (composer?) package for OOUI.
[01:17:23] <biberao>	 I might try 1.32 sometime
[01:17:25] <Haley>	 There are docs.
[01:17:33] <biberao>	 i didnt want to use composer :|
[01:17:47] <Haley>	 Oh, it's also in MediaWiki core, maybe.
[01:17:49] <Haley>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/OOUI
[01:17:53] <biberao>	 i tried
[01:17:58] <Haley>	 > OOUI is available in MediaWiki Core, as well as on npm, Composer, and through cdnjs. 
[01:18:10] <Haley>	 What about npm?
[01:18:14] <Platonides>	 Haley: I like the idea of comparing the buggets
[01:18:26] <biberao>	 i should issue a npm and make the modules installed where?
[01:18:31] <Haley>	 Platonides: I'm kinda bummed it doesn't work in your browser. It's very pretty.
[01:18:32] <Platonides>	 pretty sure there will be a huge difference
[01:18:53] <biberao>	 mw.loader.getState('oojs-ui-core')
[01:18:54] <biberao>	 "registered"
[01:18:54] <Platonides>	 in fact, there may be some table at meta
[01:19:00] <biberao>	 not ready
[01:19:17] <Haley>	 Yeah, even a basic bubble graph would be revealing imo.
[01:19:24] <Haley>	 The budget is $100M now maybe?
[01:19:26] <Haley>	 It's very high.
[01:20:03] <Platonides>	 data is probably on pages linked from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports
[01:20:11] <biberao>	 ideas please? :D
[01:20:32] <Haley>	 Yeah, I feel like I worked on such a table once.
[01:20:42] <Haley>	 biberao: Is your wiki public?
[01:21:33] <Haley>	 Ah, up to $92M.
[01:22:01] <biberao>	 H/query Haley 
[01:22:04] <biberao>	 shoot
[01:22:07] <biberao>	 mistake
[01:22:47] <Platonides>	 this seem to be $76,800: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2017-2018/Final/Financials
[01:22:55] <Platonides>	 where are you seeing the $92M figure?
[01:24:51] <Haley>	 For FY2018-2019.
[01:24:52] <Haley>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2018-2019/Final
[01:25:00] <Haley>	 Yeah, the previous year was $76M.
[01:25:24] <Haley>	 $850,000 for brand strategy...
[01:26:11] <Platonides>	 the link on https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/financial-reports/ is wrong :(
[03:53:41] <pew>	 ls
[03:53:46] <pew>	 oops
[11:42:48] <nash182>	 fronic product key
[11:43:05] <TimeDoctor>	 I don't think you're going to find whatever that is, here
[12:20:28] <jeblad>	 I have an error report "ResourceLoader::makeInlineScript did not get nonce. Will break CSP…" and would like a pointer to where this might come from
[12:20:41] <jeblad>	 It is not obvious it is my code
[12:24:57] <James_F>	 jeblad: You get the nonce from OutputPage->getCSPNonce() and pass it to makeInlineScript as the second parameter.
[12:26:43] <jeblad>	 Bah… I thought I checked this call
[12:26:55] <James_F>	 jeblad: It's a new-ish thing.
[12:31:49] <jeblad>	 Thanks! =)
[12:52:13] <Zvpun>	 While trying to run `php dumpBackup.php` I get `Could not acquire '...:messages:en:status' lock`. What could I try?
[14:40:42] <bawolff>	 addshore: I can make those other repos temporarily editable
[14:42:51] <bawolff>	 although that already seems to be the case
[18:18:14] <niso>	 how would you call the programming paradigm with wikitext (and mostly templates) ? im nor sure but that would be declerative?
[20:19:02] <otto_j>	 Hi,
[20:19:02] <otto_j>	 don't know if I'm right here.
[20:19:02] <otto_j>	 My Question:
[20:19:02] <otto_j>	 I'm using ldap authentication and so the users language is set to preferredLanguage of the following format: xy (de for german, en for english, ...), but I need it of format xy_AB (de_DE for germany, en_US for english, ...). Hope there is a solution.
[20:39:25] <otto_j>	 nvm, found it
[22:32:37] <biberao>	 hi
[22:32:52] <biberao>	 just installed mediawiki downloaded the localsettings and created iton the directory
[22:32:57] <biberao>	 keeps saying localsettings not found
[22:35:19] <Skizzerz>	 biberao: it needs to be named LocalSettings.php and placed in the root of your wiki's files
[22:35:23] <Skizzerz>	 (not the mw-config directory)
[22:35:35] <Skizzerz>	 the casing is important on linux
[22:37:47] <biberao>	 yes
[22:37:51] <biberao>	 did all that
[22:39:02] <Skizzerz>	 permissions are set correctly on the file?
[22:39:24] <Skizzerz>	 should be readable by the user the php process is running as