[02:08:31] <biberao>	 hi
[02:09:22] <biberao>	 whats the difference of using {{{1|}}}{{{1|}}} and {{{1|}}}|{{{1|}}}?
[02:14:03] <biberao>	 please
[03:04:18] <enterprisey>	 biberao: the second one will produce a literal pipe between the two
[03:06:39] <biberao>	 translate please?
[03:10:30] <enterprisey>	 if you place the first code in Template:A, and the second code in Template:B
[03:10:37] <enterprisey>	 then {{A|1}} is 11 and {{B|1}} is 1|1
[03:10:46] <enterprisey>	 biberao: ^
[03:11:42] <biberao>	 hum
[03:12:29] <biberao>	 ive seen templates either using one or the other
[03:12:35] <biberao>	 it kinda confuses me a bit
[03:13:04] <biberao>	 like with an if
[03:15:22] <biberao>	 enterprisey: {{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{{1|}}}}} different than {{#if:{{{1|}}}{{{1|}}}}}
[03:15:25] <biberao>	 ?
[03:15:44] <enterprisey>	 oh I see
[03:16:02] <enterprisey>	 if it's used in an #if, then the | in between is separating the two arguments to the #if
[03:16:27] <biberao>	 then without "|" what does it do?
[03:16:40] <enterprisey>	 your first one ("{{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{{1|}}}}}") is actually equivalent to just {{{1|}}}
[03:16:46] <enterprisey>	 your second one does nothing
[03:16:56] <enterprisey>	 that is, #if requires at least two arguments
[03:17:19] <biberao>	 well the one with "|" tests if ifs defined
[03:17:30] <biberao>	 if it is it should do something
[03:17:42] <enterprisey>	 yeah
[03:17:50] <biberao>	 but ive actually seen the one with no pipe in the middle
[03:17:52] <biberao>	 which is weird
[03:17:57] <enterprisey>	 that one would always produce no output
[03:18:21] <biberao>	 i cant find it though at the moment
[03:18:23] <enterprisey>	 unless there's even more context
[03:18:24] <enterprisey>	 yeah
[03:18:33] <enterprisey>	 if you had a template that used the second pattern I'd be interested
[03:18:51] <biberao>	 ill try to find it
[03:18:55] <enterprisey>	 okay
[03:18:57] <biberao>	 not now though :D
[03:19:02] <biberao>	 thanks for your help
[03:19:10] <biberao>	 3am <-
[03:21:16] <enterprisey>	 no problem
[04:44:28] <Rogerhc>	 Anyone know how I can mark all Messages on mediawiki.org user as Read. I keep clicking on Mark as Read but still have +99 messages
[10:27:12] <WMDSbot>	 Jesús Martínez Novo @Ciencia-Al-Poder posted in purgeOldText.php / purgeRedundantText: Potential data loss? - https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/t/purgeoldtext-php-purgeredundanttext-potential-data-loss/1034/1
[17:23:33] <Guy6631>	 Is there anys french speaker...  I'm not a fluent guy in english and I wouln't create a diplomatic issue... Thanks a lot... Guy6631
[19:47:32] <biberao>	 anyone using extension:scss?
[21:08:31] <biberao>	 on desktop view the css effects work after clicking mobile view no more ffects
[21:09:39] <biberao>	 weird
[21:22:27] <biberao>	 Fixed it