[00:01:49] Haley i sent you a message [00:04:28] Great. [00:11:25] @Haley {{#if:| {{{2}}} | }} ... any idea on how to get rid of this on the boxes? [00:20:37] hmmm [00:27:23] got it.. thanks for the help! [03:39:13] Yay. [05:25:50] Does anyone know how to get Google Sheets embedded into MediaWiki? [05:26:12] you'd need either an extension or some custom js [05:27:23] i have tried GoogleDocs4MW but nothing seems to work with that extension [05:32:28] i have spent a few hours trying to work with it.. not sure what to do. its imperative that I get this done [05:34:38] GoogleDocs4MW lists as compatible with MediaWiki 1.32+, aka the most recent version (released earlier today/yesterday depending on your time zone) [05:34:45] ensure you're running a recent enough version of mediawiki [05:35:10] see also the notes on the extension page for how to embed it [05:36:19] if still nothing, it's possible that google docs changed their API and the extension no longer functions [05:36:27] in which case look for another extension or embed it yourself using custom js [05:36:41] or ask nicely for the extension to be updated, or pay someone to update it [05:37:01] appreciate your time [05:37:55] prepstexas: take a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uqvolfisau2pq127 too [05:39:27] i have actually looked that over and even have the file open in Dreamweaver.. whe i made the change there was a parse error [05:45:20] got it working.. thanks [05:48:06] Skizzerz: don't trust everything you read "|mediawiki = {{MW stable branch number}}+" [05:48:39] oh [05:48:49] * Skizzerz slaps ashley with a pool noodle [05:49:07] ow [05:49:13] * p858snake looks towards ashley ಠ_ಠ [05:49:26] hm, I recall GoogleDocs4MW having some issues...quite a while ago, lemme see [05:49:44] seems google changed their API, and there's supposedly a fix on the talk page [05:55:25] who wants to sanity-check the patch? :D [05:55:27] (PS1) Jack Phoenix: Fix Google Docs URL so that this extension actually works again [extensions/GoogleDocs4MW] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/483917 [06:00:33] Dreamweaver. That's a throwback. [14:59:48] Special:WantedPages will show links that chekced using "{{#ifexists:...}}", there is a way to see the most wanted pages that some page realy links to them "[[Page]]" and not "{{#ifexists:Page}}"? [15:30:43] niso: no, currently MediaWiki doesn't distinguish between a link and ifexists [15:31:02] :( [16:41:34] niso: i wanted that also [16:41:35] :P [18:47:14] hello i have an internal error on my wiki and need help resolving the issue [18:47:24] !debug [18:47:24] For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging Also see https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms [18:49:42] i am confused.. [18:53:47] if there is anyone out there that can help i would appreciate it. just need a guide on what to do [18:54:57] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug is the guide of what to do [18:56:49] i saw the link.. i just dont kn ow what i am looking at.. my work just came to a grinding halt with this internal error issue [19:00:16] guess i will just cease operations [19:01:46] some internal errors i have no clue about have magically appeared and i have no clue [19:02:24] No one can help you unless you provide more debugging information [19:03:07] https://history.txhsfbgameday.com/index.php/Main_Page [19:04:30] What version of MediaWiki? [19:04:43] 1.31 [19:04:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uqy58v3nuki88zs1 <--- [19:05:01] Are you running a version of MobileFrontend that match? [19:05:25] ResourceLoaderLESSVars was removed in 1.32 [19:05:59] ok [19:06:04] so... [19:07:43] It seems odd that it just broke [19:09:14] biberao: I've no idea what version 3.33 is :) [19:09:44] thats what i dont understand. should i uninstall the curent mobilefrontend and install 1.31? [19:13:46] hmm [19:14:46] Reedy: me neither [19:15:08] i just linked the same issue [19:15:37] prepstexas: Try disabling it yeah [19:15:40] Worth it for starters [19:16:11] biberao: 1.33 would be master ofc [19:16:28] yes [19:16:32] 1.33 with an older MF could result in something like that [19:17:21] i just find it odd that it would just create an error out of the blue [19:20:31] It might be masking another error [19:27:23] uploaded 1.31 and still getting the error [19:30:20] ? [19:30:26] You said you were on 1.31 before [19:31:22] yes [19:32:46] should i go up to 1.32? [19:34:08] I'm confused what you did by "uploaded 1.31" [19:35:27] How do you upload 1.31 if you already run 1.31? [19:35:31] prepstexas: you need to get MF for 1.31 [19:35:47] MF for 1.31 -> Mediawiki 1.31 [19:37:12] i had 1.31 on the system.. deleting it and reinstalling again [19:41:52] still have the same error [19:43:12] Hang on [19:43:18] You're definitely not running the right version of MobileFrontend [19:43:19] #0 /home/airports/history.txhsfbgameday.com/extensions/MobileFrontend/includes/MobileFrontend.hooks.php(707): GlobalVarConfig->get(string) [19:43:30] In 1.31 [19:43:30] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/REL1_31/includes/Hooks.php [19:43:33] It's been renamed [19:44:09] I can't even see when includes/MobileFrontend.hooks.php actually last existed [19:44:25] Uh [19:44:28] Ignore that [19:44:32] hmmm [19:44:48] I got distracted [19:45:33] Upgrading to 1.32 will definitely remove the error, as the code dosn't exist [19:45:47] ok i will try it [19:52:34] how odd.. upgrading to 1.32 on mobile with 1.31 mw works [19:53:03] appreciate the help! you guys are awesome [19:53:48] MobileFrontend: REL1_31 [19:53:48] 2018-04-17T22:21:29 [19:53:48] 7f66849 [19:53:51] what im using [19:54:38] mmm... new MediaWiki version [19:55:55] hmm.. seems I have 1.31.0. Is that a big security risk? [19:56:53] I gonna upgrade my wikis to 1.32.0. Do I need to really download and expand all the extensions again to make sure they are up-to-date [19:57:39] Well, extensions from other branches generally aren't supported [19:57:50] Plus there's a lot of changes for underlying schema changes, which includes extensions too [19:58:11] p858snake: nice change [19:58:12] didnt realize MW 1.32 was released. two days ago [19:58:13] Reedy: okey-dokey [19:58:19] was 1.27.5 still lts? [19:58:24] Yes [19:58:32] But it's also an old lts [19:58:38] I got a less important wiki so I upgrade that first and if that goes well I do the same for the important wiki [19:59:40] Reedy: yes but it was on topic :D [20:00:00] It's supported till June I think [20:03:37] i assume i just upload 1.32 over the 1.31 and overwrite the files? except localsettings? [20:03:54] Vaguely, yes [20:04:02] LocalSettings.php won't be in the tarball [20:04:05] You need to run the update script too [20:04:06] !upgrade [20:04:06] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [20:04:07] it's better to upload/extract into a fresh directory and copy over LocalSettings and uploads [20:04:11] !update [20:04:11] update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see [20:04:45] means that 1) you have an automatic backup of the files to go back to in case things break, and 2) you don't have to worry about files that were removed in between 1.31 and 1.32 lingering about in the filesystem [20:05:31] you'll still want to backup your database as well before running the upgrade script [20:05:38] i guess i can hold off on 1.32 for a while if i need to [20:20:13] I'm trying to figure out how to substitute the RESULT of a template into a page, not the text of the template. My template makes several module calls to produce a single result, and I would like to use something like {{subst:Template}} to one-time replace the template call with its result, preventing unnecessary module calls. Is that possible? [20:20:20] I tend to hold off a week in case there are any showstopping bugs [20:20:37] Minor updates I apply immediately [20:21:04] {{subst:Template}} embeds the text of the unevaluated template, which is not what I want. [20:56:13] EliteMasterEric: you need to propagate the subst to everything inside of the template [20:56:18] Anyone here using externaldata? [20:57:06] I recommend using safesubst: for this [20:59:31] !ask | biberao [20:59:31] biberao: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [21:27:28] pc died [21:27:30] sorry [21:29:35] whats the difference between something="{{#var:onevariable|{{{something|}}}}}" and something={{#var:onevariable|{{{something|}}}}} [21:29:38] ? [21:31:12] one has quotes around it [21:31:18] the other does not [21:31:32] there should be a difference when using external data [21:31:42] then please explain why you think so. [21:31:43] I have no idea what externaldata is [21:31:54] but in mw templates in general, quotes are not special [21:32:02] they just would display that value wrapped in literal quotes [21:32:32] if you think they're different, why don't you try them out on your wiki and see what the differences are [21:32:40] far easier and faster than asking [21:33:33] andre__: because i seen both formats [21:33:39] and second another queston [21:34:08] biberao, please be clearer. [21:34:19] biberao: You are basically seen something somewhere and nobody knows what you refer to. [21:34:30] Many things can be written in many ways. [21:34:45] I've also seen the words "fulfiled" and "fulfilled" in my life, for example. [21:35:01] That does not mean that they have a difference, apart from one L. [21:35:18] Did you try both expressions above before asking here? :) [21:35:29] i will [21:35:30] thanks [21:35:36] another question if possible [21:35:57] should there be a #vardefine before #var [21:35:58] ? [21:37:02] in what? [21:37:15] did you try reading the documentation for that extension? [21:37:16] to be used i mean [21:37:20] im reading [21:37:32] (it's answered pretty clearly there) [21:37:36] see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Variables [21:38:42] ok need to work out the new install and test more [21:39:58] thanks [21:49:40] Skizzerz: I looked into trying to use subst but I can't figure out how to use it with an invocation. [22:15:36] one more question when is this context used this used blah|something and blah=something? [22:16:32] ok nevermind found the answer [22:28:55] like my doubt was this {{template|blah=value}} and {{template|{{{blah|value}}}}} [22:30:37] the second one comes from a parserfunction [22:49:04] lotstolearn i mean [23:27:57] {{#if:{{{image|}}}|{{#ifexist:File:{{{image}}}||[[Category:Pages with missing logos]]}} <- if it exists wont add the Category part right? [23:30:23] have you tried yourself already in a sandbox? [23:30:46] yes [23:31:00] what was the result? [23:31:30] if it doesnt exist shows it goes into that category [23:32:45] ok got it thanks [23:33:12] biberao: was that behavior unexpected? [23:33:38] it confuses me a bit [23:34:02] when it comes to avoiding like #ifexist|yes|no [23:34:14] like i always expect that lol [23:34:15] probably want to mention that already as part of your first sentence here, by explaining what you did, what was the outcome, and what is your question. [23:34:40] you confused now [23:34:43] let me re read [23:34:56] no, I'm trying to explain how to ask better questions :) [23:35:22] by mentioning explicitly in your first sentence that you did already try, and by mentioning what the outcome was. [23:38:15] i tried after i asked :P [23:44:17] haha