[08:02:54] <WMDSbot>	 @imenZr posted in Scribunto/Lua Problem - https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/t/scribunto-lua-problem/1133/1
[10:41:25] <biberao>	 hi
[10:41:34] <biberao>	 damn with 1.31 isnt loading the fonts properly
[10:41:34] <biberao>	 :|
[11:51:45] <Harzilein>	 hi
[11:53:15] <Harzilein>	 can a user query an article for the xml of its preprocessor dom?
[14:03:12] <idnc_sk>	 hi
[14:03:21] <idnc_sk>	 installing 1.32.0 with sqllite as the db backend
[14:03:34] <idnc_sk>	 installtion froze @the last step
[14:03:54] <idnc_sk>	 Creating main page with default content...
[14:04:16] <idnc_sk>	 no other errors during the installation wizard 
[14:04:25] <idnc_sk>	 any idea where I should look for pointers
[14:53:50] <biberao>	 hey
[14:54:04] <biberao>	 is it possible to update within 1.31
[14:54:07] <biberao>	 ?
[16:27:24] <harmaahylje>	 idnc_sk: do you have any logs?
[16:27:38] <harmaahylje>	 biberao: what does that question mean?
[17:01:35] <biberao>	 harmaahylje: i mean within the "1.31" release must have been updates?
[17:27:27] <harmaahylje>	 biberao: if it has, then yes
[17:46:33] <idnc_sk>	 harmaahylje: I'm about to logoff from work, not yet, I do get a log about the database being already populated when I hit refresh
[17:46:59] <idnc_sk>	 related to l10 cache 
[17:51:15] <harmaahylje>	 was it populated before?
[17:54:02] <idnc_sk>	 no, I assumed this was done by the instlaler
[17:54:04] <idnc_sk>	 its sqlite
[17:54:12] <idnc_sk>	 so 3 or 4 sqlite files
[17:54:38] <idnc_sk>	 tried to remove them couple of times && restart the installation process
[17:54:59] <idnc_sk>	 that error is most probably not related
[17:55:19] <idnc_sk>	 since db init part in the final setup screen looks OK, it freezes on the last line 
[17:55:38] <idnc_sk>	 "Creating main page with default content..."
[17:56:24] <idnc_sk>	 of course if I hit refresh, those 7 or so steps will repeat from step 1, step 2 is db init so naturally it will fail
[17:57:23] <idnc_sk>	 ..well, a ton of ungrounded hypothetical thiking backing the above on my part
[17:57:53] <idnc_sk>	 where does mediawiki store its main logs?
[17:58:25] <idnc_sk>	 note that I don't have access to any server logs(due to the unfortunate way the whole env is set)
[18:07:45] <harmaahylje>	 maybe just store the input from the process into a file
[18:07:59] <harmaahylje>	 if there is nothing else. I don't know how the install process is logged
[18:08:31] <harmaahylje>	 maybe you could use another database, is it critical to have sqlite?
[18:18:28] <idnc_sk>	 its the only option we currently have
[18:31:44] <harmaahylje>	 idnc_sk: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:SQLite
[18:32:04] <harmaahylje>	 idnc_sk: have you tried the previous mediawiki version?
[18:34:20] <idnc_sk>	 harmaahylje: yup, went over it, team managing that server is us-based, could not check all I wanted and I already had enough of corporate work for the day
[18:34:32] <idnc_sk>	 but thank you for the pointer
[18:46:55] <harmaahylje>	 another sqlite version might be worth a try then idnc_sk 
[18:48:45] <Rainboom>	 Anyone here from Skyrim Creation kit?
[18:49:06] <harmaahylje>	 what is that?
[18:50:27] <Rainboom>	 Crap, okay. uuhhh Skyrim the game.. through Steam there is a creation kit to help mod. I was going through their creationkit wiki thingy. I am having troubles.
[18:50:54] <Rainboom>	 so i went through the site and thought i found a chatgroup. apparently not, this is just a wiki chat, isnt it?
[18:51:43] <harmaahylje>	 this is a chatroom for mediawiki, a wiki software
[18:52:07] <Rainboom>	 R.I.P
[18:52:13] <harmaahylje>	 from mediawiki.org: "MediaWiki is a free and open source software wiki package written in PHP, originally for use on Wikipedia."
[18:52:47] <Rainboom>	 Well this is awkward
[18:53:43] <Rainboom>	 uhh so forget this username and never remember this incident.
[18:53:49] <Rainboom>	 thankies
[18:53:53] <Rainboom>	 bye bye :D
[21:00:18] <biberao>	 harmaahylje: how can i check such thing?
[21:15:58] <Yaron>	 Hi - sometime yesterday or today, the bullet characters disappeared from all the navbox templates on mediawiki.org, like this one: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Databases
[21:16:22] <Yaron>	 Is anyone looking into this problem? If not, where should it be reported?
[21:29:26] <MatmaRex>	 Yaron: i blame jdlrobson - https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AGadget-site.css&type=revision&diff=3076139&oldid=2535417
[21:29:44] <MatmaRex>	 hmm, pretty sure that the 'a.hlist' in that change should be just '.hlist'
[21:31:33] <MatmaRex>	 Yaron: jdlrobson: i think this fixes it - https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-site.css&diff=3081378&oldid=3076139
[21:31:53] <MatmaRex>	 (the change might take a few minutes to go live, due to caching… stuff)
[21:39:07] <Yaron>	 MatmaRex: yes, that worked! Thanks!