[00:51:12] <biberao>	 hi is there a way to block access to mobile.css .js etc
[00:51:12] <biberao>	 ?
[00:53:46] <biberao>	 from editing that is
[00:53:52] <biberao>	 or specific users
[01:05:56] <Reedy>	 biberao: Protect?
[01:20:29] <ScientificGuy>	 Anyone here who can help me with a markup issue?
[01:21:32] <Betacommand>	 ScientificGuy: like what?
[01:22:39] <ScientificGuy>	 When I put ===table=== on line 1, ===tablerow=== on line 2, and ===tablesortcol=== on line 3, tablerow and tablesortcol suddenly decide to act as style="display:none".  Why is that?
[01:24:01] <Skizzerz>	 do you have a link to an example?
[01:24:12] <ScientificGuy>	 Yes: http://www.aiowiki.com/wiki/User:Scientific_Guy/Sandbox2
[01:24:59] <Betacommand>	 ScientificGuy: its something with the javascript of your wiki
[01:25:11] <ScientificGuy>	 Is that in Common.js?
[01:25:50] <Betacommand>	 yeah
[01:25:58] <Skizzerz>	 you have some js on the wiki that's doing weird stuff with it
[01:26:04] <Skizzerz>	 and I see someone beat me to that, whoops
[01:26:06] <Betacommand>	 because the same thing happens in monobook
[01:27:01] <ScientificGuy>	 Thanks; could you help me locate the issue?  I can't find it in my Common.js
[01:27:11] <ScientificGuy>	 http://www.aiowiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js
[01:28:11] <Skizzerz>	 ScientificGuy: use your devtools to set a DOM breakpoint on one of those headers, that'll break it in whatever js is messing with that element
[01:28:14] <needhelp>	 yoyo
[01:28:37] <Betacommand>	 ScientificGuy: taking a look
[01:28:42] <ScientificGuy>	 haha, I don't have dev tools :)
[01:29:16] <Skizzerz>	 F12 on your browser :)
[01:29:19] <ScientificGuy>	 duh
[01:29:26] <needhelp>	 php version 7.1.26, mediawiki 1.31, get infinite redirect when all php modules are loaded, it isnt a single php module that causes trouble afaik
[01:29:28] <Skizzerz>	 but if you aren't a web dev, it's a bit hard to get going on them
[01:30:31] <ScientificGuy>	 can you guide me through it?  I'm on Chrome
[01:34:42] <needhelp>	 ohhh
[01:35:01] <ScientificGuy>	 I set a breakpoint, what now?
[01:35:04] <needhelp>	 $wgScriptPath = ""; #$wgScriptExtension = ".php"; $wgArticlePath = "/$1"; $wgUsePathInfo = false; are these the correct setting for ugly URL?
[01:37:17] <needhelp>	 had to comment out article path
[01:37:27] <needhelp>	 so my problem is when Im not using ugly URL i get infinite redirects
[01:40:15] <ScientificGuy>	 Anyone know what part of js is causing the headers to act like this?
[01:40:59] <Betacommand>	 ScientificGuy: Im trying to track that down Im not sure what is interacting together to cause it
[01:41:41] <ScientificGuy>	 Is there a way I can still have the three headers on the page?  Maybe using <span>?
[01:44:52] <Skizzerz>	 ScientificGuy: Common.js line 78
[01:44:58] <Skizzerz>	 $( '[id^=tab]' ).hide();
[01:45:03] <ScientificGuy>	 Checking
[01:45:16] <Skizzerz>	 so it's your tabTable() function causing it
[01:45:51] <Skizzerz>	 because your headings begin with the letters "tab"
[01:46:07] <Betacommand>	 Skizzerz: thanks
[01:46:11] <Skizzerz>	 table, tablerow, tablesortcol
[01:46:23] <Betacommand>	 Skizzerz: completely read past that
[01:46:25] <ScientificGuy>	 That's it!
[01:46:35] <Skizzerz>	 Betacommand: yeah was having a hell of a time in firefox since they don't expose dom breakpoints
[01:46:50] <Skizzerz>	 in chrome, you look at the element in inspector, right click, and select break on attribute changes
[01:46:55] <ScientificGuy>	 Any suggestion on how to fix, without breaking other pages on the wiki?
[01:47:02] <Skizzerz>	 then reload the page, and it automatically breaks on whatever line of js is modifying the attributes of that element
[01:47:18] <Skizzerz>	 (add ?debug=1 to prevent resourceloader from compressing stuff)
[01:47:31] <Skizzerz>	 ScientificGuy: fix your selectors, or rename the headings
[01:47:36] <Skizzerz>	 I'd recommend the former
[01:47:49] <Skizzerz>	 like if the legit usage is supposed to be like "tab-something" "tab-somethingelse", etc.
[01:47:55] <Skizzerz>	 then look for tab- instead of just tab
[01:48:18] <ScientificGuy>	 Can I give an example?
[01:48:38] <Betacommand>	 ScientificGuy: what is that line of code supposed to do?
[01:49:29] <ScientificGuy>	 I'm not sure exactly, but I think it might create something like this: (see Characters Played) http://www.aiowiki.com/wiki/Sam_Suksiri
[01:49:45] <ScientificGuy>	 Or "Work", just edited
[01:51:14] <Betacommand>	 Skizzerz: looks like the pattern is tab\d+
[01:51:18] <Betacommand>	 tab110
[01:51:24] <Betacommand>	 tab111 
[01:51:26] <Betacommand>	 ect
[01:51:54] <ScientificGuy>	 That's deeply integrated into the site
[01:52:02] <Betacommand>	 my javascript isnt good enough to fix that rule
[01:54:14] <Skizzerz>	 Betacommand: no way to match that using css selector syntax
[01:56:15] <Betacommand>	 ScientificGuy: you have two options then: A) replace "tab" with something like "tab-hidable" in the associated templates, or rename the section headers
[01:57:22] <ScientificGuy>	 "tab" is used on maybe 1,000+ pages over 10+ huge templates; I think I'll just rename the headers.  Thanks for the help
[01:58:48] <ScientificGuy>	 Also, since I'm here, could I ask about a duplicate parameter in the DPL manual?
[03:28:49] <Finlay>	 Just wanted to point out I had to waste all evening debugging Cargo because it uses the API, which in turn has anti PATH_INFO code in api.php, which means if that var is set the api does not work. My install had set `fastcgi_param PATH_INFO $fastcgi_script_name;` in nginx. 
[03:29:24] <Finlay>	 I get it is trying to be super smart and do redirects, but in this case it proved a very confusing error that took me a long time to track down, especially since the wiki worked fine.
[03:30:08] <Finlay>	 I really wish there was a LocalSettings.php setting I could set to disable this check.
[03:50:09] <Finlay>	 filed as a bug, let's hope someone fixes it as I found a support desk thread with several people who had the same problem and resorted to core patches. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215857
[05:50:55] <TheROFL98>	 Hi
[10:48:19] <biberao>	 hi why would mobilefrontend have its own LocalSettings.php on "tests"?
[10:49:14] <biberao>	 for testing purposes? :P
[16:49:09] <Amie>	 Hello everyone...is there a way to remove namespaces from the 'Search in Namespaces' box?  Right now we have 36 namespaces in the list, and only 16 of those have content that a user would want to search.
[16:50:58] <Reedy>	 What is in $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault ?
[17:09:52] <u19809>	 HI all, I want to modify the styles combo in the WYSIWYG editor extension of mediawiki.  but it does not seem to want to load it ...
[17:25:46] <bawolff>	 Oh Amie left, but the SearchableNamespaces is what he was looking for
[17:25:54] <bawolff>	 SearchableNamespaes hook
[17:34:42] <c>	 is there a way to remove the "Summary" header from images pages showing up by default when a summary is used
[17:35:15] <Reedy>	 css?
[17:35:41] <c>	 CSS has nothing to do with mediawiki automatically inserting a header
[17:36:43] <Reedy>	 It can potentially make it disappear  though
[17:37:12] <c>	 i don't want that, i want it to not happen in the first place
[17:37:23] <bawolff>	 c: Potentially the UploadForm:getInitialPageText hook, but that'd be hacky
[17:38:03] <bawolff>	 c: You can change the text of the header by editing the page MediaWiki:filedesc, if that helps
[17:38:13] <bawolff>	 But it doesn't look like there is an option to disable it
[17:38:20] <c>	 goal is no header period
[17:38:24] <Skizzerz>	 or uselang=qqx, figure out how it's being inserted, and if the header is fully defined in a message you can blank that message
[17:38:42] <bawolff>	 Its added into the wikitext, so uselang=qqx won't work
[17:38:49] <Skizzerz>	 so css then
[17:38:53] <Skizzerz>	 achieves same goal
[17:38:55] <c>	 iirc blanking a message uses the default?
[17:39:19] <bawolff>	 deleting a message uses default
[17:39:41] <bawolff>	 If the message contained just a space or something it would be == == on the page
[17:40:10] <bawolff>	 If you don't want to go the css route, probably the only other option is doing a preg_replace on a UploadForm:getInitialPageText handler
[17:40:30] <Skizzerz>	 imo css is cleaner and nicer way of going about it, and less brittle to future changes
[17:40:59] <Skizzerz>	 also 3 lines instead of writing an extension
[17:41:39] <Skizzerz>	 the extra 30 bytes you save on page loads is unlikely to impact anything
[17:43:40] <bawolff>	 $wgHooks['UploadForm:getInitialPageText'][] = function ( &$text, $msg, $bar ) { $text = preg_replace( '/'. preg_quote( '== ' . $msg['license-header'] . " ==\n", '/' ), '', $text, 1 ); };
[17:43:44] <bawolff>	 Is only one line :P
[17:43:57] <bawolff>	 But i tend to agree its kind of hacky, and I'd probably do CSS instead
[17:44:12] <c>	 i am not worried about "bytes" or page loads. we had issues with lightboxing and there being a section header that was only fixed by removing the header
[17:44:21] <bawolff>	 hmm, also that line has a typo
[17:44:40] <bawolff>	 $wgHooks['UploadForm:getInitialPageText'][] = function ( &$text, $msg, $bar ) { $text = preg_replace( '/'. preg_quote( '== ' . $msg['license-header'] . " ==\n", '/' ) . '/', ”, $text, 1 ); };
[17:44:49] <bawolff>	 meh, didn't test that, YMMV
[17:45:24] <bawolff>	 err, that's wrong too
[17:45:43] <bawolff>	 $wgHooks['UploadForm:getInitialPageText'][] = function ( &$text, $msg, $bar ) { $text = preg_replace( '/'. preg_quote( '== ' . $msg['filedesc'] . " ==\n", '/' ) . '/', ”, $text, 1 ); };
[17:46:04] <bawolff>	 whatever, my main point is its possible and an option (may or may not be the best one)
[17:47:03] <bawolff>	 This is something you'd add at the bottom of LocalSettings.php, if you wanted to do that
[17:47:19] <bawolff>	 And it would only affect newly created files, not existing ones
[18:07:22] <c>	 the CSS option would hide all i think, since they all use the mw-headline class
[18:08:22] <Gopa>	 Tpt[m]: Ping ?
[18:10:39] <Skizzerz>	 c: it'd also be hacky by the looks of it; #mw-imagepage-content h2:first-child { display: none; }
[18:10:43] <Skizzerz>	 (untested, but should work)
[18:17:31] <c>	 seems so, let's see if this playing nicely with lightboxes. thanks!
[20:08:59] <finlay>	 Is there a way I can get the name of the page after a redirect? Something like a parser function `{{#FollowRedirect:SomePage}}` and it will return `[[ThePageSomePageRedirectTo]]`
[20:21:10] <Skizzerz>	 finlay: I'm not aware of anything like that
[20:21:33] <Skizzerz>	 you can get it via API, but no way I know of in wikitext
[20:31:36] <finlay>	 Skizzerz: Thanks, I guess I could do an API call using one of the external data extensions...