[02:00:03] Hi, im using ?action=purge on some page and getting no change :S only if i make some change (new lines and so on) the change is "updated", nothing on the job queue, what can cause that? [08:55:00] Hello, I have a request for a template modification [09:01:46] !ask | NorthPark1417 [09:01:46] NorthPark1417: Please feel free to ask your question: if anybody who knows the answer is around, they will surely reply. Don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time – both yours and everybody else's. :) [09:02:15] If that template is local on some specific wiki, you probably have to contact that specific wiki though [09:05:09] Hi Andre, please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NorthPark1417/sandbox [09:06:13] The parameter "note=" added to the citation template, to turn "1." into "2." [09:12:24] I also pinged #wikipedia-en [10:40:48] Hi, i use ldap for authentification and i like to restric access for group and for category. This extension is not maintained anymore : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Restrict_access_by_category_and_group [10:41:12] Do you now how to do this ? [13:25:45] Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) @LucasWerkmeisterWMDE posted in Is the “Destructive” test group still relevant? - https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/t/is-the-destructive-test-group-still-relevant/1181/1 [15:30:34] @vscam posted in Private User Pages on Mediawiki - https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/t/private-user-pages-on-mediawiki/1183/1 [20:30:40] I tried installing the Echo extension to get notifications (third extension I've ever tried). After updating (first time doing that) my wiki won't show up. [20:30:49] I've logged the errors on the page. [20:31:14] 'A database query error has occurred. Did you forget to run your application's database schema updater after upgrading?' [20:31:24] But I did update and it said everything was ok [20:31:38] What can I try next? [20:32:28] When I go to https://my-site.com/mw-config/ it says 'Upgrade complete' [20:33:27] Or does anyone know any resources I can look at? I've been trying to look up the problem, but haven't had luck finding something relevant. [20:41:10] I'm not sure we necessarily support installing extension db changes via the web installer [20:42:32] !update.php [20:42:32] update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see [20:45:15] I did that [20:45:20] @Reedy [20:45:33] I think maybe I have to manually create the tables? [20:45:51] Is there a way to report this issue to the people who make Echo? [20:47:20] The tables should be created when you run update.php [20:48:19] Do you have the output from update.php when you first ran it after enabling the extension? [20:49:13] They weren't created [20:49:27] @Reedy: No, I didn't see any output [20:49:37] I don't think the tables exist, though. [20:49:42] I don't see them in my db [20:49:55] Let me be clear, https://my-site.com/mw-config/ is not the same as update.php [20:49:59] Not that I knew what I was looking for... [20:50:17] Do you have shell access to the server your wiki is running on? [20:50:37] Welp, if it needs the command line, I don't have access to that. [20:51:04] The Echo instructions themselves lead to instructions about mw-config, so I guess I assumed that's what I needed to do [20:51:25] !echo [20:51:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo_%28Notifications%29 [20:52:06] Can you point me to the bit that says mw-config? [21:01:33] @Reedy: The 'update script' link: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Echo [21:01:50] Let me know what you find. [21:02:07] Ok, that makes sense... [21:02:29] When you go to https://my-site.com/mw-config/ do you get to click on anything? Or does it immediatley just say upgrade complete? [21:02:45] Cause you should have to give it an upgrade key to continue [21:03:04] @Reedy: I gave it the upgrade key [21:03:18] Now whenever I go to it, it says it's complete. [21:03:30] Hard refreh? [21:04:40] @Reedy: The database literally doesn't contain any folders with the name 'echo' in them. [21:04:47] folders? [21:04:58] MySQL? [21:05:13] phpMyAdmin [21:05:33] I don't really know if that's the answer you're looking for. This is new to me. [21:05:49] I don't know what you mean by folders... [21:05:54] It's years since I touched pma though [21:06:04] Depending on your mysql config, it puts it all in one file... but if you're talking about PMA, you're not talking about that [21:06:26] Oh, sorry, I assumed they were folders but they have a different icon [21:07:10] It's whatever is showing up in the tree menu on the left in phpMyAdmin [21:07:20] I think I finally found a post that's relevant, though [21:07:37] It says to run the script manually somewhere, so I'm going to try doing that. [21:08:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Suusljncw7adbayh [21:09:09] Is there a more specific error [21:09:22] Yeah, it was about a table not existing. [21:09:27] The scripts seem to be working, though. [21:11:05] Well, the error is gone now. [21:11:16] Don't know if the extension will actually work, though. [21:13:04] Hmm, nothing got added to the DB when I referenced a user's name. [[theusername]] [21:14:18] Well damn [21:14:42] No idea what to do [21:17:13] Srishti Sethi @srishakatux posted in Wikimedia has been accepted as a mentor organization in GSoC 2019! - https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/t/wikimedia-has-been-accepted-as-a-mentor-organization-in-gsoc-2019/1185/1 [21:19:46] So, different question - how are page discussions supposed to work? They just look like a regular page you edit. If one person write something, another person can easily accidentally delete it. [21:19:56] Am I doing something incorrectly? [21:22:07] Nope, that's pretty much it [21:22:20] At least, with the default "discussion" system [21:30:33] The Flow extension is pretty popular as an upgrade to the default talk pages. However its future is unclear. [21:41:52] @Reedy, @revansx[m]: Any other alternatives? [22:40:47] Good evening, [22:41:12] I am trying to install mediawiki without using the installation form [22:42:50] I choose to use my own Localsettings.php (a copy form a localsettings.php created with the installation form) and it does not work :( [22:43:11] You can't just put a LocalSettings.php in place and have things work [22:43:19] You still need to create the database etc [22:43:41] I have this king of message https://framabin.org/p/?40267ab27561c950#cmTPn5wAYfDmUpShwDis22o9a7GFbbgd87xqVgsfkMo= [22:43:57] [22:42:41] You still need to create the database etc [22:44:06] the database have been created, I checked in phpmyadmin [22:44:21] The database might've, but you're missing at least one table [22:44:42] Or your prefix is wrong in comparison of your database and config in your LocalSettings [22:46:33] the prefix looks right, it is the same in the database and in localsettings.php [22:46:52] I do not know why this table is missing [22:46:59] How did you create the database? [22:47:15] The other option is that the user you're using for db access can't view the table [22:49:25] this is how it looks in phpmyadmin https://framapic.org/1aNPZgSOKETu/M2bYLLi1DFlC.png [22:50:18] That kinda looks like you only have one table [22:50:26] so of course MW won't run [22:54:48] ok, so I have to find a way to generate those table [22:55:31] I should maybe use the php script in maintenance/install.php ? [22:56:19] That would be the recommended way if you can't/won't/don't want to use the web installer [22:56:49] thank you very much [22:57:07] does this script generate a new Localsettings.php ? [22:58:45] It can, but it doesn't have to [22:59:13] actually, it seems it will, regardless [22:59:19] To the root [22:59:48] great :) [23:00:28] Reedy: do you have a sec? I could use a review on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth/+/493087 , there are some broken renames in the queue [23:00:30] If you don't need/want it... Just move yours out of the way, run the installer, then delete the generated one (or move it out of the way), and then put yours back in place [23:01:07] Is it possible to set a user's email address using a maintenance script? If so, which script? [23:01:26] revansx[m]: resetUserEmail.php [23:02:12] Reedy, You rock .. thank you! [23:02:27] the one from the installer will be fin, I am just trying to find a way to install automatically some wikis without an installation form [23:02:47] *fine [23:03:48] Then yeah, install.php is probably what you want [23:04:01] Which is what we use for some of our CI infrastructure to "install" MW to test again [23:05:31] tgr: Having a loook [23:05:41] thx [23:10:43] Reedy, my attempt to use the "resetUserEmail.php" results in the error: [23:10:44] "Could not open input file: resetUserEmail.php" [23:11:08] Does the file exist in the directory you're running the command? (hint: probably not) [23:11:32] *derp* .. nevermind.. wrong directory [23:11:44] exactly [23:53:12] \o/ it works !