[11:07:41] hi, How to prevent the identified users to be added to "users" default group that have some rights ? Since it is hardcoded, so we can not be removed. But it is still intesresting to remove this default right. When i listed the existence groups, i do not see this "Users" default group in the list. [12:11:47] Since i can't move the 'user' group, then i remove all its rights. And then i create another group with the need rights. [19:19:54] does Mediawiki 1.32 support Visual Editor and Parsoid? [19:23:25] yep [19:23:45] you need to grab the versions of VE and parsoid that are compatible with 1.32 instead of the latest (master) version [19:26:23] Thanks for the response. Do you have a link that shows where to get this. I have been messing with this for a few days and no luck [19:28:53] im running parsoid .10 and VE 1.32-21d40c3 [19:29:39] i updated Nodejs to 6 and now i can get the edit source to work but when i click on edit nothing happens [19:31:08] im also running this on a debian 9.8 box [19:32:17] if you're downloading tarballs, just follow the download links on the Extension:VisualEditor page [19:32:24] if using git, switch to the REL1_32 branch [19:33:25] your nodejs version may still be too old, or you may be using a too new version of parsoid, or possibly other issues [19:33:34] you'll need to look at error logs for more details [19:37:44] I'm trying to edit the sidebar by going to ...MediaWiki:Sidebar, but my sidebar isn't changing when I change things and save. Anyone know any resources? [19:42:10] wikiwat: probably caching at some level. Try clearing your browser cache and bouncing your webserver [19:42:28] (latter is complete overkill but it's an easy way to clear server-level caches) [19:46:26] @Skizzerz: I've done cmd+shift+R, but that doesn't fix it. I don't know how to bounce anything... [19:47:39] sorry, by "bounce" I mean "restart the service" [19:51:31] @Skizzerz: I don't even know how to do that. Not sure I can if I don't have root access (shared server) [19:55:49] ah, you likely do not [19:59:20] @Skizzerz: Any other ideas? [19:59:47] do you have a link to your wiki? [20:01:33] Sure, but just a sec. Maybe I'm formatting this wrong. I don't even understand how the current stuff is formatted because it doesn't look the same as for regular pages. [20:01:44] Where is the sidebar getting these values? [20:02:23] One item that's already working from before says `helppage|help-mediawiki`, but appears as 'Help about MediaWiki' [20:02:58] Are these values defined somewhere in another file? [20:03:21] they're interface messages [20:03:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar has more details [20:03:45] Welp, never mind... things seem to be showing up now... [20:03:54] Just took some time? [20:04:05] Still won't show the search bar I put in there, though. [20:05:34] In that example, how does it know what 'portal-url' is? [20:06:27] Hmm, trying to find stuff about interface messages [20:07:33] Ok, found Special:AllMessages [20:08:31] @Skizzerz: Since that problem's solved, is there a way to make a live group chat for the wiki? [20:09:25] you'd need an extension [20:09:32] I don't know if one exists or not [20:09:38] Ok [20:10:06] @Skizzerz: Do you have time for more questions? [20:10:31] just ask your questions without directing them at anyone in particular. If someone knows the answer, they'll respond [20:10:42] might be me, might not [20:10:52] Heh, ok [20:11:43] I want to add an input box to my left sidebar that lets people create new pages. It's basically the search bar, but with a different label. [20:11:56] I installed the plugin Input Box. [20:12:08] I can use it fine on a page, but can't seem to get it to work in the sidebar. Any ideas? [20:13:48] sidebar is very limited for what you can do with it just on-wiki, see my above link [20:14:05] going beyond that requires writing your own PHP extension or using css/js to inject things [20:16:44] Ah, ok [20:20:47] wikiwat: It's often more useful to have the inputbox on a single page, with text explaining some basic things about editing, what kind of pages are allowed or not, etc. Also having 2 input boxes could confuse people. I'd put a link to that page instead [20:21:28] @Vulpix: Ah, got it. Interesting work-around. [21:01:52] I have tried many different combo of nodejs parsoid and no luck. which logs should i look at as the parsoid log not showing any errors [22:48:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/Troubleshooting [22:50:41] .oO should look at time before posting a hint [22:51:21] Johnny_ is still around :)