[03:42:31] On Manual:Installing MediaWiki https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki#Run_the_installation_script the wget and curl links show 1.32.0 yet there is an acknowledged bug MediaWiki 1.32.0 Installation Error: "Could not select database" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215566 and there is a 1.32.1 available since February 20 here https://releases.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.32/ [03:46:01] I logged in to update it but apparently I don't have enough credentials to edit the page. [03:47:38] Huh, i don't think 1.32.1 is officially released [03:48:45] Well I can attest that 1.32.0 won't install from the web interface when using mysql root credentials .... [03:49:39] Maybe should update the page with stable just before 1.32.0? Or on the page acknowledge the problem and link to the 1.32.1? [03:52:01] I don't even know whose responsible for release management in modern times [03:55:23] Well there's some links if someone with the juice happens by.... [04:03:30] I can change the link, but I'm not sure if i should if 1.32.1 is not officially released yet [04:05:01] bawolff: It's not. [04:05:35] We do really need to do that though, there's quite a few bugs in 1.32.0 [04:05:50] I guess it will happen eventually with next security release [04:10:26] 1.32.2 will get released at some point. Hopefully we actually announce 1.32.1 before then. [04:18:21] That's interesting.. Are short URLs default now? [09:08:40] Klaas Skelte Van Der Werf @Mainframe98 posted in Escaping strings - Which method to use? - https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/t/escaping-strings-which-method-to-use/1266/1 [12:37:38] I need to be able to attach certain information to pages in MW, such as a "last reviewed date" and who is a page's "editor" (in the magazine sense of the word), in such a way that this can be searched (e.g. list all pages reviewed over 6 months ago, or list all the pages for which I am the editor) [12:37:43] Any suggestions? [12:38:01] * Reedy eyes bootc [12:38:07] I guess the editor thing can just be a category per person, so fairly straightforward, but the date might be interesting [12:38:18] oh hello there :-) [12:38:46] Unhelpful, but accurate answer is "sql" [12:39:19] As in, write a plugin for it because you haven't heard of such a thing before? :-) [12:40:28] So... You've probably seen on the A&A wiki they have "approved" commits [12:40:29] https://support.aa.net.uk/index.php?title=FireBrick_Road_Warrior_Android&action=history [12:40:49] trouble is it needs to be relatively user friendly, I don't want to force my users to have to write SQL queries or stray away from the web UI [12:41:01] We have a couple of extensions for doing this sort of thing (one being FlaggedRevs that A&A are using) [12:41:45] we don't need to flag revisions per se, mostly just some mechanism to say that a page might be rotting a bit so someone should take a look at it and review / edit it for accuracy [12:41:50] The extension does add a few "special pages" that might help answer some of the questions [12:42:28] Ah [12:43:01] Have you seen https://support.aa.net.uk/Special:AncientPages ? [12:43:25] Which is kinda where you're going... Listing pages that haven't been edited in a long time [12:44:04] kind of, except in this case we want to track pages that have been explicitly reviewed (by their "editor") rather than anyone doing a drive-by typo fix [12:45:13] So that would definitely not be functionality in core MW... There is "patrolling" but that isn't really what you want either [12:45:19] this will be on an internal wiki with trusted users only, btw, which might affect things, e.g. the page "editor" won't have any particular privileges, it's just an honorary title of sorts to attach blame to for stale pages :-) [12:46:49] indeed patrolling is a bit closer to what we're after [12:47:33] I'd use a simple template parameter to keep the date/editor metadata in, but I don't know that I can search for that (beyond using it to make a page a member of a category) [12:49:30] I'm guessing you don't want to get into SemanticMediaWiki realms (which I wouldn't advise generally, as the pool of support shrinks dramatically) [12:49:35] hmm, would this work actually?: a template w/ reviewed_date parameter, and a complex set of ParserFunctions that would compare the given date with the current date minus some months, and put it in categories based on that? [12:50:29] FWIW, you can use Scribunto to do Lua rather than messing around with ParserFunctions insanity [12:51:04] That could work at point of saving... But wouldn't be automagically updating (if you wanted "pages not reviewed in X months") unless you were purging/touching pages [12:51:24] arse [12:51:41] You could do "Pages not reviewed before X" or similar [12:51:44] that works for everything but the date, then [12:52:15] Just trying to think if you could do this another way [12:52:48] that Scribunto extension looks much nicer than ParserFunctions, thanks! [12:53:09] It's not perfect, but it's definitely a lot more user friendly [12:53:13] You can't easily set "page properties" from just editing... But with a simple extension, you could push those into the database, and then write a relatively simple special page to display those [13:00:26] hmm, thanks, food for thought - time for lunch now but I'll keep looking [13:38:36] Reedy: if I say Cargo, does that make you wince? It sounds like it might do the trick... [13:38:48] !hss | bootc [13:38:48] bootc: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/6/69/Hesaidsemanticga2.jpg [13:39:00] haha [13:39:24] 12:49 < Reedy> I'm guessing you don't want to get into SemanticMediaWiki realms (which I wouldn't advise generally, as the pool of support shrinks dramatically) [13:40:02] I think Cargo is basically a fork of SemanticMediaWiki [13:48:47] I think I am tumbling down a Semantic rabbit role, but I suspect it will be helpful in the end [13:49:53] At least, if you're doing a smaller private wiki, you shouldn't have to worry about scalability problems [14:35:22] Greg Rundlett @freephile posted in What determines thumbnail sizes? - https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/t/what-determines-thumbnail-sizes/1267/1 [19:33:54] test [19:47:00] ackroydai, ? [20:26:20] ackroydai: failed to adhere to the New York Times Manual of Style. [20:53:08] Hi, would anyone mind answering a possibly silly question? [20:54:04] We just installed 1.32 of MediaWiki and we are trying to now setup LDAP. But I was reading and it seems like it will not work with that version? [20:58:20] Hello, is anyone here? Or am I doing this wrong. [22:23:40] test