[14:32:51] <mceyran>	 hi, i have a question and hope someone could help: i'd like to host a dual-language wiki in english and german, while the german pages already exist and are going to be automatically translated with deepl to seed the english version... now there seem to be several ways to do it which confuses me... if i make a wiki family, i have to set shared databases and think about the already existing images... if i use 
[14:32:51] <mceyran>	 the translate extension i need to host several nodejs apps that are not well documented and are rather beta, where the live version on wikipedia is more developed than whats documented
[14:34:46] <mceyran>	 and that one depends on the universallanguageselector which seemingly doesnt solve the problem of having 2 wiki spaces or something, dunno i'm confused and would appreciate a guideline about the easiest way of very simple multilanguage wiki (only 1-2 editors)
[14:42:59] <Reedy>	 Um, what?
[14:43:05] <Reedy>	 No, you don't need node apps to run translate
[14:43:14] <Reedy>	 To run ContentTranslation you do (which is a seperate product)
[18:46:15] <bawolff>	 You know, I know its kind of hacky, but https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Performance/Fresnel#Quick_MediaWiki is so much more straightforward than setting up vagrant, I almost wonder if that should be our official instructions for newbies
[18:46:24] <bawolff>	 maybe with a slightly more complex shell script
[22:00:55] <jubo2>	 I've been banging my head on the keyboard for good couple of hourse
[22:02:02] <jubo2>	 I'm trying to get the Translation extension installed and right now I have a broken wiki, with no content and no followers
[22:02:38] <jubo2>	 I was moving the wiki from a subdomain to another one and now I get blank page
[22:02:56] <Vulpix>	 !blank
[22:02:56] <wm-bot>	 A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug>.
[22:03:29] <jubo2>	 I've been looking at the Apache2 logs for that site, but they are not very helpful
[22:08:02] <jubo2>	 I'm getting http://dpaste.com/231SVRV
[22:18:19] <jubo2>	 UniversalLanguageSelector is expecting to find a file 'extension.json' and my wiki is broken
[22:19:12] <jubo2>	 How come there is no sane defaults being generated into there... is this a pedagogical thing? I can't seem to find very easily information to help in this situation