[04:48:58] anyone know why the interlanguage links would show in the wrong order on mobile view, but correctly on desktop view? [05:33:15] Hello there ! [05:33:49] I want to create a similar wiki page as -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Geography [05:34:05] My website is - www.vanipedia.org [05:35:54] helper! Hello there ! [05:40:29] !wptemplates [05:40:29] To copy templates from Wikipedia, use Special:Export and check the "Include templates" option to get all the sub-templates, then upload the file with Special:Import on your wiki. You'll also likely have to install the ParserFunctions extension, Scribunto extension and install/enable HTML tidy. You also might need some CSS from Wikipedia's Common.css. You'll also need a lot of... [05:41:20] Someguy1221: I think some people were expetimenting with reordering them so that the most popular languages come first, or the language that they think people are more likely to use. But i don't know if that actually happened [05:41:54] bawolff: Thanks for responding, i've also described the problem in more detail on tech, which i see you're also in, so i won't repeat myself [05:42:09] unless someone wants me to repeat myself [05:42:17] I'm not saying that that is neccessarily the issue, just that that is something that comes to mind [05:49:25] hi so i'm decent with mediawiki but ran into this error on a few old articles and categories [05:49:27] https://dpaste.de/y3V8 [05:57:55] Probably related to the revision table refactor [06:04:13] i've tried running most of the maintenance scripts to no avail [06:07:25] update.php would be the script to run [06:07:56] yeah i've tried that multiple times and completes with no errors [06:08:51] I guess you could file a bug [06:10:52] Also check if you ever had any uncommon config related to external storage, revision compression, or anything like that [11:27:51] hi there. howto log/monitor login attempts for mediawiki to detect brute force attemps? [11:31:29] You can use the auth log I guess [11:36:20] reedy: which authlog do you mean? [11:37:19] MW has an "auth" log group [11:37:33] reedy: ok, thanks, i'll check that [11:37:40] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDebugLogGroups [11:56:50] Hi! Can someone help me with the connection between Mediawiki and Parsoid? The VisualEditor is not working. [12:05:24] Jay-Dev: it would be useful to state what kind of setup or installation method you've followed, since there are several https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor#Setting_up_VisualEditor [13:55:04] I think I gonna put out a request for bids for the most essential https://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Features. Anyone know any good channels to find a good contractor well acquinted with Mediawiki and semantic graph technologies? Thanks in advance. [13:55:21] I can pay max like in the 500-1000€ ballpark [13:57:38] automating the calculation of https://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Consumerium:Metrics and zero hidden data needed is trivial, but the selection method to select one data from one many sources as the "most likely correct", "best match" etc. is absolutely non-trivial work [13:59:05] So needs a ontology architect with knowledge of https://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Knowledge_graphs [14:00:40] and coding skils and willingness, but I don't think I can go above 1000€ from my own pocket, so preferably one willing to give a good quote for a non-profit and generally beneficial work [14:01:30] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @amir1 & @subbu - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:02:37] Is there a channel better suited for seeking a Mediawiki and knowledge graphs pro / advanced activist? [14:05:15] jubo2: You can try the SupportDesk on MW.org. But if you're looking for cheap work, you should ask your members/adherents [14:06:56] I am trained in interfacing with technical clients, but I make much better spaghettis in the kitchen than at the keyboard. So I know how much it helps software projects if the client can express his desires as well structured use cases [14:08:07] hexmode: Thanks for pointing to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Support_Desk [14:15:22] Is it possible to make external links "objects", so that one could centrally manage the link caption translatations? [14:16:09] The dispersion of links is a problem in many wikis [14:16:43] Say I need the same link in 3 different places, with the link texts selected on the basis of where the link is inserted [14:20:35] A self-updating extlink database would be beneficial for Wikipedia too [14:21:04] So you can see all the articles where a link is present, where and when it was first added and such stuff [14:51:15] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @chiborg & @milimetric - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [19:56:56] Is mediawiki still sorting the RL modules before loading them? [21:31:42] fun today: special extension with also display some dates. dates are in unix timestamps [21:33:03] and the extension fetches the timezone of the user, with actual DST. and adjusts the timestamp with the DST of the time now. so depending on when you watch the page, the displayed date/time changes.. [22:03:06] not sure if my message on editor extensions got through... was disconnected [22:07:30] ningu, if i scroll up, this was your first msg today [22:07:35] thanks [22:07:35] ok [22:07:41] I want to write an extension to provide a custom edit interface. any suggestions for existing extensions to look at to get started, or docs that are particularly relevant? [22:07:54] so far I've found TinyMCE and am looking at a couple more [22:09:27] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor - using the parsoid, parsoid is a node js service [22:09:41] this will be an edit interface for editing a section of a page that has an image, and associated text which will transcribe text in the image [22:09:47] ok [22:10:02] minimally, the interface needs to show the image so you can see what you are transcribing [22:10:23] I will read docs for that [22:11:37] This sounds a lot like... [22:11:42] I know a bit of php but I am not very familiar with mediawiki's code, in particular the kind of hooks I might need etc [22:12:04] ProofreadPage [22:12:05] ningu: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page#/media/File:Proofread_Page_editor.png [22:12:08] for frontend, we have someone to do the javascript side [22:12:12] Reedy: ok will check [22:12:27] interesting. yes, it's very much like that [22:12:37] if you want to see another editing interface: translatewiki [22:12:48] it's more specialized because it isn't for english, but having a starting point would be awesome [22:12:57] for translating lots of messages [22:13:08] Proofread Page does many languages [22:14:08] Reedy: fair enough, but this is going to be transcribing Balinese palm leaf manuscripts into Balinese script, and we'll need certain Balinese-specific stuff [22:14:21] I suspect it hasn't been done by others [22:14:26] The extension will handle any input [22:14:40] yes, but we'll need to customzie it for our workflow [22:15:05] it is a great starting point though [22:16:16] it looks like they have done a lot of the basic stuff already [22:16:45] for transcribing hm. i really recommend to look at the interface of translatewiki [22:16:49] some of what we need is language-independent, but not all [22:17:11] https://translatewiki.net/ [22:17:13] translatewiki/translate doesn't do image to text [22:17:19] it's just text to text in different languages [22:17:31] but their workflow is similar [22:17:49] instead of text it's a picture [22:17:59] Sure, which is what ProofreadPage does by default [22:18:06] Here's an image. Give me the text that's on it [22:18:41] ok. haven't take a look at proofreadpage, will do that (when i find some time) [22:18:53] one thing we want to do, for example, is automatically transliterate the Balinese script to latin [22:18:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page#/media/File:Proofread_Page_editor.png shows it pretty simply [22:18:58] so we'll need to customzie regardless [22:19:24] That's potentially functionality that could be useful in MW one day [22:19:35] We have language converters for some languages already [22:19:55] hmmm [22:19:56] ok, you are right, proofreadpage looks great :) [22:20:02] yeah, I agree it looks great [22:20:24] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_systems#LanguageConverter [22:21:00] we're trying to ultimately transcribe 130,000 leaves, and at that volume efficiency gets pretty important, so we'll need to respond to UI concerns of our users [22:22:48] Reedy: thanks, that looks good to know about [22:23:02] we could contribute our Balinese one [22:23:19] (once we write it, haha -- but it isn't that hard) [22:23:34] I'm sure it'd be welcome. As would any other language specific improves to the extension [22:24:22] We also have an active language team who would probably be able to help you with some of the stuff [22:24:34] Reedy: by the way, CLDR has rule-based transliterators for a lot of languages. you might want to add those as standard things available [22:24:46] File a bug :) [22:24:54] We do do some stuff with CLDR, but not that [22:25:45] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm-leaf_manuscript just curious, it's about such kind of "books" [22:26:08] bedah: yes, in Bali they are called lontar, but they are all over south/se asia [22:26:22] this is the collection we want to transcribe: https://archive.org/details/Bali [22:27:06] HI, anyone knows trick to query just the first item from cargo list field? (within the cargo query template) [22:28:03] where would I file the bug? [22:29:23] I guess follow instructions at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug [22:29:59] yeah [22:38:50] cool, thanks