[04:43:12] <cronolio>	 hi. https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Code_development_process&action=history looks like autor tried to remove content but it was restored
[04:43:35] <cronolio>	 what to do with this page?
[13:27:43] <noudle>	 i got some problems getting latex tables to work with mathtex in my mediawiki installation. i include the latex in <m></m> and for the most part it is working fine. but when it comes to something like this https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Basic_examples i get message #7 (and from looking at the latex log there is something like 'begin{document} ended by end{center}' which is a bit odd..
[13:30:07] <noudle>	 this is the error: ! LaTeX Error: \begin{document} ended by \end{center}.
[13:30:41] <noudle>	 is it really needed to define a whole latex document inside the <m></m> tags to render a table?
[13:32:46] <noudle>	 when i add '\begin{document}' and '\end{document}' to the top/end of a file and put the table stuff inbetween i get this error: ! LaTeX Error: Can be used only in preamble.
[13:33:06] <noudle>	 anyone can give me a hint on how to get those tables to work in mathtex?
[14:03:40] <noudle>	 okay solved it by mixing mediawikis internal tabular with mathtex tags
[15:41:33] <cronolio>	 how can i translate it ? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages . i mean maintaining and keeping it to date ?
[15:41:45] <cronolio>	 up to date
[15:47:14] <Vulpix>	 !twn
[15:47:14] <wm-bot>	 http://translatewiki.net
[15:57:29] <cronolio>	 ok, https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Userlogin-remembermypassword vs https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Userlogin-remembermypassword why text is different?
[16:08:07] <Vulpix>	 cronolio: someone created it on mediawiki.org https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Userlogin-remembermypassword&action=history They shouldn't be "the same", it's just a personalization for MediaWiki.org that may not be desired on other wikis
[16:10:16] <cronolio>	 "someone create" - "i mean maintaining and keeping it up to date ?"
[16:11:42] <Vulpix>	 translatewiki.net has tools to detect when a translation is stale
[16:12:07] <Vulpix>	 local changes on wikis don't
[16:12:15] <cronolio>	 "someone created it on mediawiki.org" :)
[16:13:09] <Vulpix>	 If you want to translate a message on mediawiki.org, you'll need to be an admin there, or ask someone
[16:15:16] <cronolio>	 ok, i will ask someone :) 
[16:28:25] <cronolio>	 i hope will be beter if local modified massages is translated via translate estension.
[16:28:47] <Antarez>	 nice nick, cronolio 
[16:29:34] <cronolio>	 o/
[17:01:43] <GFXDude>	 Hi all, I have just upgraded from 1.30.2 to 1.32.2
[17:02:08] <GFXDude>	 I am getting error:
[17:02:10] <GFXDude>	 Original exception: [XQUikkBxMhglaGyPiHXShwAAAAI] /index.php/Main_Page Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBUnexpectedError from line 3847 of /var/www/html/includes/libs/rdbms/database/Database.php: Wikimedia\Rdbms\Database::begin: Implicit transaction expected (DBO_TRX set).
[17:02:43] <GFXDude>	 This seems to be coming from callHooks() that is loading skins. I have tried different skins, but doesn't help.
[17:14:59] <GFXDude>	 I have commented out this line, and my site seems functional now: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/1.32.2/includes/libs/rdbms/database/Database.php#L3847
[17:15:07] <GFXDude>	 I wonder what the repricussions of that will be
[18:54:48] <N3X15>	 GFXDude, that's to notify you of weird crap happening in your database.  Hope you made backups.