[11:21:35] <mrec>	 regarding wgGroupPermissions, did anyone ever think that spammers are actively targeting mediawiki because its default settings are just idiotic?
[11:22:04] <mrec>	 this puts the developers of mediawiki on the same stage as the spammers ... going hand in hand because the spammers know what they can expect from mediawiki
[11:22:18] <mrec>	 otherwise they wouldn't target it
[11:23:00] <mrec>	 there's a nice installer, the spam options should be available during the installation
[11:23:24] <mrec>	 that's just my feedback as a user, and they're very much valid otherwise those problems wouldn't exist