[15:46:30] yeah this is too difficult for me to try to find a solution by myself thus T230618 [15:46:31] T230618: ActiveUsersPager's new query logic breaks PostgreSQL compatibility - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230618 [19:29:14] anomie: thanks a lot for the quick fix [23:04:29] Hi. I have a wiki that wont transclude a page from Wikpedia for some reason. Instead I get a blank page. [23:04:57] It works on 2 of my other test wikis but not the 3rd [23:05:12] and i have followed the same steps for each [23:05:29] so i am not sure why it is not working on the 3rd one [23:07:07] can anyone suggest why it might not be working please? [23:12:37] The page is here: https://smiliepedia.org/wiki/TEST [23:13:22] Iterwiki extension shows installed here: [23:13:26] https://smiliepedia.org/wiki/Special:Version [23:14:13] Settings to show that transclusion is enabled wor Wikipedia here:https://smiliepedia.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki [23:15:00] And scarytransclusion is enabled in my LocalSettings.php [23:15:12] Yet for some reason it doesn't work? :( [23:16:21] I've also made sure I've run the update.php to create the necesssary interwiki tables in the database [23:17:48] Page Forwarding works, but for some reason transclusion does not [23:18:24] and I definitely have the YES option set for both in the interwiki table on the special page [23:20:59] Hello! [23:26:19] Links to my other 2 wikis where it is working perfectly here: [23:26:22] https://smiliepedia.org/testwiki/Article:Harvey_Ball [23:26:25] and here: [23:26:42] https://smiliepedia.org/testwiki2/Harvey_Ball [23:27:23] I dont understand why it is not working on the first one and showing a blank page instead? [23:28:30] !blankpage | BradLee [23:28:30] BradLee: A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [23:28:34] Or why it will allow Page Forwarding and not Transclusion, despite the Special:Interwiki settings being "yes" for both [23:29:15] oh, not a literal blank page [23:29:16] I see [23:29:40] yes, not a literal blank page [23:29:45] just no page content [23:31:27] have you cleared any/all caching on your main wiki? [23:32:13] yes [23:32:47] can I get some advice on what I broke here: ? http://hemp.wiki/wiki/index.php/Portal:Cannabis/Selected_picture/Layout [23:38:40] BradLee: try a null edit (that is, edit the page and hit "save" again) [23:41:15] Yeah, I tried that already... didn't work :( [23:41:28] Just tried it again... still didn't work [23:41:52] :( [23:42:07] I also tried transcluding on another fresh wiki peage and it didnt make a difference either :/ [23:42:20] but it's only that wiki, and not any of the other ones on the same server? [23:42:33] I also tried transluding a different wikipedia article and that didn't work [23:42:51] Yeah, all 3 are on the same server [23:43:56] could try to enable debug logs for scary transclusion (I don't recally what log groups those are offhand), and see what the logs say [23:44:06] the only difference between the 3 wikis is teh one that doesnt work is 1.27.3, and teh ones that do work are 1.31.3 and 1.33 [23:44:16] oh, that may actually be why [23:44:45] But I have made sure that the extension version for each matches teh correspoding MW version though [23:46:33] e.g usings REL 1.27 interwiki with MW 1.27... using REL 1.31 interwiki with MW 1.31 [23:47:02] BradLee: on the 1.27 wiki, truncate (delete all rows from) the transcache table [23:47:10] then do another null edit [23:47:29] alternatively set $wgTranscludeCacheExpiry = 1; or something similarly small [23:47:33] and then do another null edit [23:48:42] Hempseed: I don't see anything wrong with that page? It looks like a template, so you'd need to include that in a different page. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates for more info [23:48:51] Ok. I'll try setting the cache expiry first, cos im not sure how to truncate the transcache table [23:49:28] I'd recommend the expiry route, yeah [23:53:04] That didn't work either [23:53:15] Flushed my browser cache just to make sure [23:59:14] so i just find the transcache table in the database... check all columns and press delete? [23:59:45] i'm in phpmyadmin