[19:07:42] <harmaahylje>	 Has there been any progress in a responsive "default" layout for mediawiki in the last year, or is such thing even being worked on? I mean one layout/theme that would work for mobile and desktop.
[19:19:38] <Vulpix>	 harmaahylje: responsive monobook and responsive vector are a thing now
[19:20:28] <James_F>	 harmaahylje: See the new AMC mode of MobileFrontend/Minerva.
[19:20:44] <harmaahylje>	 Vulpix: Well, that sounds awesome! Last time I was looking into this (it was about a year ago), there was some separate mobile layout, which wasn't very optimal
[19:20:54] <harmaahylje>	 James_F: what's AMC mode?
[19:22:11] <James_F>	 harmaahylje: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Advanced_mobile_contributions
[19:22:43] <James_F>	 Experimental. Launched in beta, advertised yesterday.
[19:25:38] <harmaahylje>	 Thanks. Something in Beta won't be good enough for now, but maybe later
[19:27:29] <James_F>	 You can probably force it on for all users, I've not looked into the code yet.
[19:27:50] <harmaahylje>	 Is MobileFrontend this separate thing for mobile?
[19:30:34] <James_F>	 I think AMC is provided by Minerva itself so you can provide it on a blended desktop/mobile single skin.
[19:34:02] <harmaahylje>	 Vulpix: were you referring to "wgVectorResponsive" or is there something else? A separate theme?
[19:34:16] <harmaahylje>	 James_F: that sounds good
[19:35:07] <Vulpix>	 harmaahylje: yes
[19:35:11] <Vulpix>	 wgVectorResponsive
[19:35:48] <harmaahylje>	 Okay, seems like it has been around since 1.26, not sure if I tried it last time
[19:36:45] <jorm>	 harmaahylje: switch your skin to timeless.  it works great in mobile and desktop.
[19:37:15] <harmaahylje>	 jorm: just looking at release logs, seems like it is something introduced in 1.31?
[19:37:35] <jorm>	 i have no idea.
[19:37:43] <jorm>	 but i've been using it for at least a year or more.
[19:37:54] <jorm>	 my user css does a lot of clean up.
[19:38:55] <harmaahylje>	 I will most likely try that skin once I manage to upgrade from 1.30