[03:09:51] <queennicci>	 Hello?
[11:21:09] <bblz>	 hello. is it appropriate to ask for help in this channel?
[11:34:35] <kjetilho>	 yes
[11:38:13] <bblz>	 can you help maybe?
[11:38:30] <bblz>	 my apologies, dropped out.
[11:41:45] <kjetilho>	 don't ask to ask.  just state your problem and question.
[11:44:47] <bblz>	 alright. who do i state it to?
[11:49:22] * kjetilho gives up
[12:00:46] <apergos>	 kjetilho: just ask the channel, if someone knows and is around they will reply, or if they see it later and you are still here they might reply later
[12:03:00] <kjetilho>	 I know.  he even asked me via PM (twice!) who to address the question to.
[12:03:31] <kjetilho>	 (or she of course)
[12:03:34] <apergos>	 oh, sorry, that was meant to go to bblz
[12:03:41] <apergos>	 but I see now they are gone...
[12:03:44] <apergos>	 oh well
[15:16:57] <require_once>	 hello. error: 1932 Table 'mediawiki.page' doesn't exist in engine (localhost), after trying to manually (no back up) recover mediawiki.
[15:17:24] <Reedy>	 Does it have a prefix?
[15:19:21] <require_once>	 it has some information before error: 1932. I don't see anything mentioning 'prefix'. anywhere i can paste large messages for devs to see?
[15:19:51] <Reedy>	 I mean, does the table have a prefix
[15:20:15] <Reedy>	 !pastebin
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[15:20:33] <require_once>	 sorry, total noob here. it just says 'mediawiki.page'
[15:20:59] <require_once>	 I'll try and paste entire page content.
[15:28:34] <require_once>	 https://controlc.com/bf7469ca
[15:29:04] <Reedy>	 How are you trying to manually recover MW?
[15:31:43] <require_once21>	 sorry, dropped out. here is the link https://controlc.com/bf7469ca
[15:33:33] <require_once>	 https://controlc.com/bf7469ca
[15:35:01] <require_once>	 I've managed to get a verbose by setting $wgShowSQLErrors - true;
[15:36:13] <clivejo>	 anyone know how I could move the Category box from the bottom of the page to the top on the Vector theme/skin?
[16:26:19] <op>	 Hi guys, when I want to compare two versions of a page (history) and click on compare pages, the page history closes and the normal page is shown. What could be the problem?
[16:26:51] <Reedy>	 On which wiki?
[16:27:08] <op>	 1.30
[16:27:28] <Reedy>	 I mean which wiki url
[16:27:36] <Reedy>	 1.30 isn't supported either
[16:28:24] <op>	 It's a private wiki, can't give you a url
[16:31:25] <op>	 Sorry, it is MediaWiki Version MediaWiki 1.31.1
[16:33:58] <Reedy>	 Not that there is probably anything relevant to this issue.. That is a few point releases behind
[16:34:04] <Reedy>	 Anything in the browser console?
[16:38:27] <op>	 Hmm can't see anything, but I will install and try ff
[17:43:15] <op>	 Sorry needed to restart and take care of my child. So there is no error when trying to compare two page versions (history tab)
[17:43:31] <op>	 Don't know why it's not working
[22:24:13] <metalhead33>	 Hello everyone
[22:24:27] <metalhead33>	 I would like to ask, has anyone ever brought WebGL to MediaWiki?
[22:24:53] <metalhead33>	 Because I did look into the seemingly one and only 3D extension, and it has no support for textures at all.
[22:25:11] <metalhead33>	 Please don't tell me that I'm literally the only person on the planet, who has ever considered using WebGL in MediaWiki, with textured objects.
[22:27:41] <Reedy>	 metalhead33: It's hard to say. People do things in private and don't have to tell us or ask us for permission ;)
[22:30:23] <metalhead33>	 I might just then modify the existing 3D extension a bit, and use it on my own wiki.... gotta check its license tho, if that's allowed.
[22:31:38] <Reedy>	 It's GPL 2.0 or later
[22:40:51] <metalhead33>	 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebGL_API/Tutorial/Using_textures_in_WebGL this goes in :v 
[22:59:20] <metalhead33>	 Yeah, I looked into the existing 3D extension's source code.... it's too arcane for me. I better just create my own extension.
[23:00:22] <Reedy>	 lol
[23:03:19] <metalhead33>	 Besides, my goal is to have a sort of hook thing, where the editor gives it 5 arguments: a model, a texture, a normal map (also a texture), a vertex shader and a fragment shader.
[23:04:12] <metalhead33>	 The earlier 3 would be fetched from the wiki's uploaded files, the latter two would be plaintext articles interpreted as GLSL.
[23:04:58] <Skizzerz>	 you could have a GLSL Content Model instead of relying on wikitext articles being "correct"
[23:11:41] <metalhead33>	 Does it even exist? GLSL content model?
[23:11:52] <Reedy>	 No, but you could make it
[23:13:28] <metalhead33>	 I can make a new content model?
[23:13:51] <Reedy>	 Yes
[23:14:06] <metalhead33>	 Nice.
[23:15:22] <metalhead33>	 So, any good pointers on how to start with making an extension with a hook and a new content model?
[23:15:41] <Reedy>	 I guess by "hook" you mean a parser function/tag
[23:15:56] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Page_content_models
[23:16:07] <metalhead33>	 yeah, exactly
[23:16:14] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser_functions