[11:45:03] <sabretache>	 Can anyone help with nav popups gadget failure?
[11:48:31] <sabretache>	 JS on in browser. Latest Gadgets extension installed. JS and CSS Gadget definition pages reference en.wikipedia. Server running MW1.32.2
[18:49:41] <snake0>	 Is it possible for a user (non-admin) to delete someone else's page by doing a redirect?
[18:50:10] <snake0>	 I looked at history and there is no record of the previous page since the redirect...
[19:00:40] <snake0>	 I did find the old page in recent changes, but all older edits are deleted.
[19:06:15] <snake0>	 If I click on an old edit, it redirects to recent changes page... All I have is the diff page.
[19:08:14] <snake0>	 Actually only one diff page... Strange.
[19:10:19] <Reedy>	 Did they move it?
[19:12:34] <snake0>	 The link is https://wiki.zoneminder.com/Special:RecentChanges
[19:13:00] <snake0>	 Last three changes.
[19:14:03] <Reedy>	 https://wiki.zoneminder.com/ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide?title=ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide&action=history
[19:14:41] <snake0>	 The links are all broken there
[19:15:13] <Reedy>	 Which links? What do you mean by broken?
[19:15:32] <Reedy>	 (cur | prev) 08:36, 4 January 2020‎ Bkjaya1952 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (2,428 bytes) (-17,538)‎
[19:15:32] <Reedy>	 (cur | prev) 01:04, 24 December 2019‎ Snake (talk | contribs)‎ . . (19,966 bytes) (+97)‎ . . (→‎Recording in Zoneminder)
[19:15:38] <snake0>	 https://wiki.zoneminder.com/Special:RecentChanges?title=ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide&oldid=15770
[19:15:41] <Reedy>	 I'm guessing you might want to revert to the 24/12 version
[19:15:41] <snake0>	 does not exist
[19:15:48] <snake0>	 redirects to recent chagnes
[19:16:16] <Reedy>	 Where are you getting that link from?
[19:16:19] <Reedy>	 https://wiki.zoneminder.com/ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide?title=ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide&oldid=14746
[19:16:24] <Reedy>	 https://wiki.zoneminder.com/ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide?title=ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide&oldid=15770
[19:17:23] <snake0>	 Hm... that latter one worked.
[19:17:38] <snake0>	 Give me a second.
[19:19:40] <Reedy>	 Just an FYI, you're running a version of MediaWiki that's unsupported
[19:19:55] <Reedy>	 (not that we can't help with issues like this, but you're vulnerable to security issues etc
[19:19:59] <snake0>	 Yes, I figured that was an issue.
[19:20:13] <snake0>	 The history on https://wiki.zoneminder.com/ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide?title=ZoneMinder_Wiki:Dummies_Guide&action=history
[19:20:23] <snake0>	 I swear it was not there 15 minutes ago...
[19:20:26] <snake0>	 Maybe I am mistaken.
[19:20:29] <Reedy>	 Caching?
[19:20:48] <snake0>	 Perhaps.
[19:20:59] <snake0>	 These were recent changes.
[19:22:08] <snake0>	 Thank you for the help. I will keep an eye on this.
[19:23:19] <snake0>	 I see now.
[19:23:26] <snake0>	 If I go to https://wiki.zoneminder.com/Dummies_Guide there is no history
[19:23:33] <snake0>	 I have to go to the redirect. 
[19:23:36] <snake0>	 That is why.
[19:24:00] <Reedy>	 Easiest thing to do...
[19:24:03] <Reedy>	 Delete https://wiki.zoneminder.com/Dummies_Guide
[19:24:11] <Reedy>	 Move the other page back there
[19:24:17] <Reedy>	 If thats where you want it
[19:24:20] <snake0>	 Ok.
[19:24:26] <Reedy>	 The history stays with the page when you move it
[19:24:59] <snake0>	 That explains it. Confusing that the alias looks like the original page, but now I know.
[19:26:27] <snake0>	 Actually, the original page used to have a redirect I thought, now it has text... Strange.