[06:57:12] <Andrio>	 When using {{#tag:ref}} inside a template, is it possible to conditionally specify the name?
[14:51:55] <duesen_>	 andre__: re https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235165#5801867: Art-Baltai and Peter.ovchyn are contractors working for CPT since this week. They are still getting up to speed with our tools and processes.
[15:26:33] <andre__>	 duesen_, uh, thanks!
[15:57:03] <quantum>	 Anyone know how I can change the title of this page from Home?  Note: I don't want to change the sidebar, only the page.  https://unofficial-tesla-tech.com/index.php?title=Home
[15:58:13] <Reedy>	 You move it
[15:58:32] <quantum>	 O
[15:59:53] <Reedy>	 Then in https://unofficial-tesla-tech.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar
[16:00:04] <Reedy>	 Home|Home becomes New Page Title|Home
[16:00:24] <Reedy>	 In the same way that Special:Categories is displayed as Electronics
[16:01:39] <quantum>	 Well I moved it (without redirect), but the Sidebar was not updated.
[16:02:02] <Reedy>	 It wouldn't be
[16:02:08] <Reedy>	 Because that's just text
[16:02:48] <quantum>	 Well... it needs to point to the homepage.
[16:03:04] <Reedy>	 So you change the Sidebar page
[16:03:10] <Reedy>	 And only change the text to the left of the |
[16:03:32] <quantum>	 ... to what?  I want that to stay Home.
[16:04:24] <Reedy>	 You moved hte page
[16:04:30] <Reedy>	 The left hand side of the | is the page name
[16:04:37] <Reedy>	 the right hand side of the | is the disply name
[16:05:09] <Reedy>	 16:00, 14 January 2020 Carl talk contribs moved page Home to The Unofficial Tesla Tech wiki without leaving a redirect
[16:05:21] <quantum>	 I know.  But I changed the sidebar to The_Unofficial_Tesla_Tech_wiki|Home... and it still goes to a non-existant page.
[16:05:31] <Reedy>	 Which non existant page?
[16:05:40] <quantum>	 https://unofficial-tesla-tech.com/index.php?title=Home
[16:05:49] <Reedy>	 That sounds like caching
[16:06:01] <Reedy>	 <li id="n-Home"><a href="/index.php?title=The_Unofficial_Tesla_Tech_wiki">Home</a></li>
[16:06:07] <Reedy>	 The HTML is right when I view it
[16:06:13] <Reedy>	 clicking Home goes to https://unofficial-tesla-tech.com/index.php?title=The_Unofficial_Tesla_Tech_wiki
[16:10:12] <quantum>	 Ok, thx.
[17:01:16] <marco84>	 oiiii
[17:01:16] <marco84>	 oi
[17:01:17] <marco84>	 oi
[17:02:40] <Reedy>	 Yes?
[17:07:00] <marco84>	 yes?
[17:07:59] <marco84>	 ?
[17:10:43] <marco84>	 ?
[17:10:44] <marco84>	 ?
[17:10:59] <Reedy>	 Can we help?
[17:11:02] <Reedy>	 Or are you just spamming?
[17:13:30] <marco84>	 ?
[17:14:41] <marco84>	 website for porn ?
[17:15:01] <marco84>	 ;D 
[17:20:11] <marco84>	 ?
[17:22:42] <marco84>	 ?
[17:22:55] <quantum>	 Ok so I've created my Categories:  https://unofficial-tesla-tech.com/index.php?title=Special:Categories  but Firmware (Software) needs to be removed.  There's no way to edit the page.
[17:24:04] <Reedy>	 dhttps://unofficial-tesla-tech.com/index.php?title=Category:Firmware&action=delete
[17:24:10] <Reedy>	 Delete the category page
[17:24:56] <quantum>	 That would be dynamite if I got Delete in the pulldown.  But I only have Protect.
[17:25:59] <quantum>	 I don't want to delete Firmware.  But Firmware (Software)
[17:27:35] <quantum>	 It's a non-existant Category, but still exists on the Categories page as a ghost.
[17:29:27] <quantum>	 Ok I had to create it, then delete it...
[17:30:49] <quantum>	 Now what's wrong is in the Sidebar, when I click MCU1, it takes me to the Categoris page, rather than to the MCU1 category page.
[17:33:10] <quantum>	 Since it's at Category:MCU1, I ought to be able to go to it from the Sidebar with:  Special:Categories|MCU1
[17:33:48] <quantum>	 Doesn't make sense why I can't.
[17:36:01] <quantum>	 Nm.
[17:39:53] <marco84>	 ?
[17:39:54] <marco84>	 ?
[17:42:28] <kjetilho>	 someone kick marco84 already.
[18:45:55] <cccccccc>	 I just enabled Uploads and I'm getting Could not open lock file for "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/a/ad/Logo1full.png". Make sure your upload directory is configured correctly and your web server has permission to write to that directory. 
[18:46:06] <cccccccc>	 What should I chmod /html/images?
[18:46:20] <cccccccc>	 err /images I mean
[18:46:23] <Reedy>	 Depends :)
[18:46:52] <cccccccc>	 Right now it's 755
[18:47:02] <Reedy>	 And the owner and group?
[18:47:35] <cccccccc>	 Owner is read write execute, group read execute, and public read execute
[18:47:57] <Reedy>	 No
[18:48:22] <Reedy>	 drwxrwxrwx 27 reedy www-data    4096 Nov 28 14:52 images
[18:48:32] <kjetilho>	 ugh!!!
[18:48:32] <Reedy>	 (noting I only have it 777 because it's an internal dev wiki)
[18:49:20] <kjetilho>	 cccccccc: it needs to be writable for the user running your web server.  e.g. the user "www-data" in many distros
[18:49:57] <cccccccc>	 drwxr-xr-x  2 localuseraccounthere localuseraccounthere   4096 Jan 11 23:25 images
[18:50:00] <cccccccc>	 so www-data?
[18:50:39] <cccccccc>	 chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/domain.com/html
[18:50:42] <cccccccc>	 anything else?
[18:50:48] <cccccccc>	 err /images/ sorry
[18:50:50] <cccccccc>	 chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/domain.com/html/images
[18:51:36] <andre__>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms#Error:_Could_not_open_lock_file_for_%22mwstore://local-backend/local-public/./../image.png
[18:51:43] <Reedy>	 Dont' change it to www-data if that is not the correct user/group for your machine
[18:52:41] <kjetilho>	 well, if it didn't give them an error (ie. the user/group exists), it is probably right.
[18:52:44] <cccccccc>	 root      2159  0.0  0.6  72620  6588 ?        Ss   Jan11   0:00 nginx: master process /usr/sbin/nginx -g daemon on; master_process on;
[18:52:44] <cccccccc>	 www-data 10259  0.0  0.6  72620  6204 ?        S    Jan11   0:03 nginx: worker process
[18:54:49] <cccccccc>	 Reedy: should I chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/domain.com/html/images ?
[19:02:18] <cccccccc>	  chmod -x+X uploads_folder -R ?
[20:02:56] <swayamsvk>	 Hi,I am a beginner as an open source contributor.So, I need a good project with some good first issues.Can anyone help me with this?
[20:03:13] <swayamsvk>	 I prefer javascript.
[20:10:14] <swayamsvk>	 Hi,I am a beginner as an open source contributor.So,Can anybody help me find an active project on javascript having some good first issues. 
[20:11:51] <harmaahylje>	 swayamsvk: hello
[20:11:54] <harmaahylje>	 noo
[20:12:36] <harmaahylje>	 swayamsvk: hi
[20:13:22] <harmaahylje>	 swayamsvk: what kind of projects interest you?
[20:14:37] <swayamsvk>	 Hi, actually am a beginner in open source contribution so I need an active project with some good first issue.I prefer javascript.
[20:15:11] <harmaahylje>	 what are you interested in?
[20:17:28] <swayamsvk>	 I am comfortable with any project.But it should contain some good first issues as I am a beginner.
[20:17:49] <harmaahylje>	 are you looking for mentoring?
[20:17:58] <swayamsvk>	 yes
[20:19:17] <harmaahylje>	 ok, then an active project would proably be a good fit in the sense that it has people, but perhaps some less active one could give more mentoring if there is some semi active senior developer maintaining something
[20:22:15] <swayamsvk>	 yes,semi active will be good but there should be maintainers who can provide me the information I need
[20:22:27] <harmaahylje>	 I haven't participated in co-operative open-source projects myself, so I don't know any good ones for your purpose
[20:22:51] <harmaahylje>	 have you found any projects yet?
[20:23:57] <swayamsvk>	 Yes, I was going through them but not exactly sure that they are active or not.
[20:24:16] <harmaahylje>	 maybe looking at the commit history reveals that
[20:24:51] <swayamsvk>	 And one more thing why my messages are not being saved after I close the tab?Is this normal?
[20:25:19] <harmaahylje>	 on IRC only the clients save the messages, so it is normal
[20:25:32] <swayamsvk>	 Actually am not having that much Idea of chatrooms 
[20:26:38] <swayamsvk>	 So I am not able to retrieve my old messages if I close the tab?
[20:26:52] <harmaahylje>	 Instead of flooding offtopic on this channel, I will just throw some projects to you in a private message
[20:27:08] <harmaahylje>	 swayamsvk: that's correct, unless you have a way of saving logs
[20:27:42] <swayamsvk>	 Ok
[20:37:55] <harmaahylje>	 so now you have tens of projects to go through, hope that helps
[22:06:08] <ningu>	 is there a good way to lint code to check for deprecations?
[22:07:40] <Reedy>	 What code?
[22:07:44] <ningu>	 extension code
[22:07:46] <ningu>	 for example
[22:07:52] <Reedy>	 PHP? JS? Something else?
[22:08:05] <ningu>	 yeah, I meant php code running in mediawiki
[22:12:08] <Reedy>	 some IDEs can do it
[22:14:28] <Reedy>	 There is stuff like https://github.com/sensiolabs-de/deprecation-detector that suggests they might work
[22:37:17] <ningu>	 ok. maybe I'll just look at debug log messages