[00:44:43] hello all, Is this a place where mw devs hang out? I have a question about collation in the users table [00:47:54] Nedlinpopo: yep, this is a good place -- but it's a quiet time of day [00:48:22] but ask your question anyway :) [00:48:47] specifically, why is the email field tinyblob? [00:48:59] i guess that's not collation [00:50:06] but an email address is most definitely text. I'm not sure if most MTAs can even do UTF8 [00:50:49] This is currently annoying me because phpmyadmin won't display the value in the table view, it makes me download a binary file. [00:51:09] This is a very minor issue, but I don't want to f*ck my DB changin gthe type [00:51:31] It could allow a bug though where someone has an invalid email [00:51:54] (probably it's escaped well in php? I haven't checked) [02:06:04] Nedlinpopo: It's been that way, well over 13 years... [02:06:22] lol [02:06:31] Basically, 17 years since created [02:06:31] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/d82c14fb4fbac288b42ca5918b0a72f33ecb1e69 [02:47:37] Nedlinpopo: the tl;dr version is that historically mysql sucked at storing utf8 data. So we made the columns binary and store the utf8 encoding ourselves. It's generally a bad idea to try and change the column types to a text type. An easy solution is "don't use phpmyadmin for managing your dbs" [03:19:00] Skizzerz: sure, thanks. [03:19:40] (for a less snarky response, the mysql command line client should display the data properly) [03:19:51] :-) [03:20:17] the CLI mysql client seems to generally do a slihtly better job, but Typing SQL is not on teh list of things that makes me happy [03:20:27] yeah, indeed. [03:20:53] databases are hard. [03:21:11] from a quick google search apparently there's an option in phpmyadmin to make it show the contents as well [03:21:34] o rly? [03:23:54] Nedlinpopo: search around the UI for it, otherwise try adding display_blob=true to the query string [03:24:27] yeah, I see a stackoverflow, but it seems the UI has changed somewhat rom when this was answered [03:24:55] oh, or I'm just blind. [03:25:04] anyway, that is a reasonable workaround [03:25:09] thanks! [03:25:12] time for me to go home [05:31:14] I tried Extension:Kartographer these days but couldn't find a solution [05:31:39] like this [05:31:45] https://fschuppisser.ch/exewiki/index.php?title=Kartographer_Extension_Test [05:32:15] this is misconfigured [05:33:09] I can't find the right thing even if I change "KartographerMapServer": [05:34:06] mistaken? But many people seem to have the same trouble. [05:34:19] https://github.com/kartotherian/kartotherian/issues/121 [05:36:35] Perhaps some people are waiting for a solution. Could you tell me the correct settings? Please. [05:37:40] your error is "429 too many requests" [05:37:54] hmm [05:39:13] can you check this one? [05:39:14] [05:40:23] Is the same. No map is displayed [05:41:39] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T241644 [05:41:42] only link to Downtown San Francisco is shown, [05:52:02] Does this mean that a request limit has been added to Mapswiki? [05:54:29] Sorry for not understanding immediately [06:13:43] There aren't many requests but no solution. Should I consider that Extension:Kartographer is no longer available on my website? [06:14:02] Or will it be resolved someday? [06:16:53] I was told to change tile servers, but changing it has no effect. [06:25:04] Is it blocked? No one will always answer.......... [08:32:13] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/J5VjG5K1/ [08:32:21] Can anyone tell how do I find the rest API for the media of the day content? [08:32:22] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Media_of_the_day [08:32:22] I have been looking around but unable to find any documents for it. [09:18:39] hi everyone, anybody knows if there is a channel dedicated to wikibase more specifically? [09:47:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Yisrael_Kristal [09:47:27] block + nuke [09:47:32] xwiki abuse [10:47:43] Okay [10:47:54] BEFORE I get upset again... [10:48:13] is https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/func_calc.asp not supported in mediawiki? [10:48:28] Because my borwser says what gets generated isn't valid [10:48:31] *browser [10:59:58] check this out https://caniuse.com/#feat=calc [11:00:20] I did [11:00:26] It should have worked in mine [11:05:16] Odd.. seems to be whitespace related [11:22:09] braz [19:44:27] Okay [19:44:46] Before I get upset... [19:44:56] https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Statute_table/idx/style.css [19:45:14] Why isn't it possible to reset how DL and DD tags behave? [19:45:24] https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:ShakespeareFan00/Statute_index [19:45:43] I've tried various approaches [19:46:05] and am starting to wonder if I am actually too stupid to code [19:46:16] because I can't get my CSS rules to work [19:47:12] :o [19:48:31] What appears to be happening is that a very specifc Mediawiki style is doing an override on mine [20:05:50] which renders my attempts to do a margin reset far harder then they should be [20:11:37] ShakespeareFan00: sounds about normal for mediawiki, the style rules are way more specific than they ought to be in general >_> [20:12:11] you can try whacking !important on your rule [20:12:56] or just match the specifity of the rule that is misbehaving, but that can lead down a lot of rabbit holes [20:13:39] I did try matching the specifity [20:13:47] That's the rule I linked... [20:14:23] !important is used elsewhere in internal stylsheets I REALLY REALLY do NOT want to have brute force it [20:14:24] Sorry, you are not authorized to perform this [20:14:39] OH.. [20:14:42] Sorry [20:14:48] silly bot [20:14:59] Apologies [20:15:02] not your fault [20:15:15] I did not know it's actually a bot command.. No problems people [20:15:35] it's a factoids bot, so ! is is a bot command to define a new factoid [20:15:44] yeah, don't worry about it [20:15:57] Does anyone here work with stylesheets ? [20:16:17] Over on Wikisource I was building my own custom definition list and .. [20:16:48] for whatever reason a Mediawiki internal style seems to stubbornly assert itself regardless... [20:17:10] I linked the example and the stylesheet. [20:17:14] earlier [20:17:33] This isn't a bug as such ( Mediawiki is doing what it's told.) [20:18:49] It would be nice however to override the definition list styles on wikisource [20:19:07] Should I raise a phab ticket? [20:20:08] part of your issue may be the fact that you're using TemplateStyles, did you check what the generated CSS actually is for those rules? [20:20:17] Yes.. [20:20:48] because I was using the approach suggested yesterday to check what styles were being applied in browser [20:21:51] It helps if you actually import the templatestyles... [20:21:56] HTH [20:22:01] Facepalm [20:22:16] Crimson face.. [20:22:21] I clearly can't code etc.. [20:23:20] yeah was going to say I don't actually see any of the rules you tried to add [20:24:12] Hmm I should now [20:25:45] I am a dumbass :( [20:27:07] Skizzerz: Software does EXACTLY what you don't tell it do... [20:27:08] LOL [20:29:43] Apologies... [20:29:59] It definitely seems like I can't code :( [20:30:06] * ShakespeareFan00 out [23:06:18] Indeed [23:06:25] But the images live on disk anyway [23:06:36] i'm just thinking if you run it all on a laptop .. but then you want backups of it.. and upload the images somewhere else.. might as well run the wiki somewhere else? [23:06:55] since VMs at OVH can be like 3 bucks / month or so [23:07:44] I just didn't feel like working out authentication, but maybe HTTP Basic Auth is sufficient in this scenario. I like the idea of it being available offline though... [23:09:06] Does Extension:Math content get saved in the XML dumps? [23:11:11] The source text will, as that's part of the page content [23:11:33] Rendered output probably not (depending on output), but that's re-computable so it shouldn't matter [23:11:44] Oh right, thank you [23:12:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Simple_private_wiki [23:13:15] but i would probably also go with just putting it all behind basic auth [23:13:21] if it wasn't local [23:14:52] Oh thanks mutante, I didn't know that was in the manual :) Yeah Basic Auth or maybe even Client Side Certificate [23:16:22] i was thinking cert too. yea :) [23:59:28] Trying to use ConfirmEdit to set up recaptcha or another captcha on my site. I have added the code to my LocalSettings.php file, but the captcha is not showing. Do I need to do anything else to get it to work? [23:59:46] My code: wfLoadExtensions([ 'ConfirmEdit', 'ConfirmEdit/FancyCaptcha' ]);$wgCaptchaClass = 'FancyCaptcha';