[04:56:26] hopefully will have better support this time for my request. [05:04:12] What request is that? [05:06:37] posted another request for administrator rights - didn't have enough activity on record last time, trying again now [05:06:52] sometime last year [05:10:39] I don't see a request from you? [05:12:04] hmm guess I forgot to put it on the main page ... hold on a moment [05:18:57] bawolff: should be listed now [05:38:17] hmm [09:54:50] I'm installing mediawiki via git on a server hosted by Alibaba, but the network is poor and I cannot clone the submodule "vendor" into my machine. I have tried several ways to solve this problem, such as making shallow copy and increasing the value of "postBuffer" to 524288000 .but when I run the command "git submodule update", it still end up with error message "error: RPC failed; curl 18 transfer closed with outstandi [11:01:10] TheEndOfKeyHighS: your message truncated, paste the error message again [11:14:58] I'm installing mediawiki via git on a server hosted by Alibaba, but the network is poor and I cannot clone the submodule "vendor" into my machine. I have tried several ways to solve this problem, such as making shallow copy and increasing the value of "postBuffer" to 524288000 . [11:14:59] but when I run the command "git submodule update", it still end up with error message "error: RPC failed; curl 18 transfer closed with outstanding read data remaining". [14:43:39] hi, i try to development a litte template for my wiki. But after submit it, the page crashed and i cant edit the template or where i implement it. All infos about version, extentions and the template is here: https://pastebin.com/hpdtBJxg. Its only the example from the orginal [14:43:39] webseite(https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates/de#MediaWiki_Code) [14:53:12] now the link is correct: https://pastebin.com/hpdtBJxg [15:22:05] Dear colleagues, is it possible to have a page in one namespace and the same page, yet "compiled" (with some replaces), in other namespace? [15:22:42] The idea is, to have a namespace Source, for the pages in LaTeX, and to have other namespace for the readable pages from Source ones. [15:23:28] how exactly are you planning on "compiling" the LaTeX? [15:23:41] mediawiki uses its own markup language, not LaTeX [15:23:43] For example, in a hook (or in an extension) some procedure will replace LaTeX commands with MediaWiki templates. For example, to replace ~ sign with   sign. [15:24:12] I mean, sure it's possible, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea [15:24:12] For example, to replace \begin{quote} with {{beginquote}}, and \end{quote} with {{endquote}}. [15:24:30] you'd need Scribunto most likely and then script the transformations in lua [15:24:50] Skizze, I see this as not a good idea, yet it looks easier than converting thousands of pages from LaTeX into MediaWiki markup. [15:25:12] that's what you're doing anyway though? [15:25:19] OK, Scribunto seems a good way. [15:25:38] But the trouble is, may I put sources in one namespace and see results in other? [15:25:48] With same pagenames, yet in different namespaces? [15:25:50] you're writing something that converts latex to wikimarkup. Whether or not that thing lives in the wiki itself is kinda irrelevant to the fact that you still have to write the thing [15:26:14] I know that I have to make a converter. [15:26:27] Yet may I have the sources in the same wiki site? [15:27:18] sure, the template system in wikimarkup is flexible enough to do whatever, you can pass the contents of one page into a parser function which transforms it into other wikimarkup [15:28:04] it will likely be very slow and there will almost certainly be size limitations on the pages you're transforming; you probably don't want any of them to be bigger than a handful of KB of text [15:28:23] Well, maybe it's better to use hooks? [15:28:38] The hooks look better than templates. [15:28:57] why not just use some engine that natively supports parsing and displaying latex? [15:29:05] (as opposed to mediawiki) [15:29:40] Well, I don't know such engines. Also, MediaWiki with its back references looks like a good way to make indices. [15:29:53] Maybe you may suggest such an engine, please? [15:30:09] I'm unaware of any, but that is what search engines are for :) [15:30:19] I have looked for latex2html converters, and found about zero. [15:30:51] Because they all want to have standard LaTeX commands as a source, and they cannot parce user commands, and user packages. [15:33:07] well, I wish you luck, but you're in very uncharted territory here. Using latex as a base, you will be missing out on a lot of wiki features (possibly including the ones that drew you to mediawiki in the first place). My personal recommendation is to just do a one-time conversion up front and then maintain the wikimarkup source directly [15:35:00] Wikimarkup hardly works with publishing :-(. [15:35:03] if you *really* want to go for this though, my recommendation would then be to create a LaTeX content model, so that your extension can directly process the LaTeX source into the HTML and you bypass wikimarkup entirely [15:35:29] what is your end goal here? Collaborating on sources for sending to publishing? or making a wiki site? [15:35:58] because if it's just the former, Overleaf sounds like a better option [15:36:35] Collaborating on books made in LaTeX available in paper, and available in digital books, and available in a site. [15:37:28] Speaking frankly, for many years LaTeX looks as a perfect tool to work with complex texts, and now (step by step) MediaWiki looks as a good tool for publishing on web. [15:38:00] Let me look for the Overleaf now! :-) [15:39:22] As far as I understand, Overleaf cannot be a standalone tool, it needs to subscript and to pay. [15:47:25] Also, MediaWiki provides versioning and collaboration... [16:03:30] the Math extension might be a good starting point to look at if you're considering using latex as a supported content type [16:03:57] just for example purposes [16:04:19] Thank you! [16:17:26] you'll want to write, or find, a custom extension [20:59:14] Is there an android app to edit "a wiki" (I give it wiki url, it is not hardcoded)? [21:03:26] why android app? [21:03:38] You can use the web page