[06:59:04] <copypaste>	 hello, i need a template expert. how do i close a template within a template's #ifeq statement?
[06:59:25] <copypaste>	 {{#ifeq:{{{infobox|}}}|no|| }} }} <--- this doesn't work
[07:00:58] <copypaste>	 full problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Psi%C4%A5edelisto/sandbox2
[07:29:03] <AlwaysLivid>	 Hey, may I come in touch someone who has played a role in organizing this organization's participation in Google Code-In competitions?
[07:29:40] <bawolff_>	 AlwaysLivid: This time of day is probably not the best time to catch them
[07:29:47] <bawolff_>	 Let me figure out who the admin was
[07:29:55] <AlwaysLivid>	 Got it.
[07:30:14] <AlwaysLivid>	 I'm based in Europe, excuse my timing.
[07:30:46] <bawolff_>	 Its totally ok, i just mean they might not be around
[07:30:58] <bawolff_>	 Although looking at the list, i think some of them are european
[07:33:12] <bawolff_>	 AlwaysLivid: Relavent irc nick names are FlorianSW, Ebe123, Urbanecm, Gopa, xSavitar, and andre_
[07:33:31] <bawolff_>	 You might have better luck on a weekday
[07:33:35] <bawolff_>	 or sending an email
[07:33:59] <Majavah>	 bawolff_: andre has two underscores in their irc nick
[07:34:24] <bawolff_>	 There's links at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in/2019 (If you go to their userpage, and are logged in, and have a confirmed email, there should be a link to email them)
[07:34:25] <AlwaysLivid>	 Oh, Urbanecm has already been reached out to regarding the relevant enquiry. Got it, sorry for the fuss and thanks for the help.
[07:34:32] <AlwaysLivid>	 I'll check it out as well, thanks.
[07:34:44] <bawolff_>	 Majavah: Whoops, you are right
[07:34:47] <bawolff_>	 never noticed that
[07:35:05] <bawolff_>	 AlwaysLivid: no fuss at all
[07:35:09] <Majavah>	 also really sad that GCI 2019 was the final one :(
[07:35:09] <copypaste>	 ( we resolved my issue in #wikipedia-en )
[07:35:20] <bawolff_>	 Wait what?
[07:35:32] * bawolff_ did not know that
[07:35:33] <Gopa>	 Hi
[07:35:35] <Majavah>	 yeah it was announced like last week
[07:35:48] <AlwaysLivid>	 Yeah, we're trying to put together an alternative. Majavah
[07:35:54] <Majavah>	 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/gci-announce/pmo3bvqYBew/vVT0-LK5AAAJ
[07:36:01] <bawolff_>	 That's very sad, i always really liked the GCI program
[07:36:08] <bawolff_>	 Everyone is really excited about it
[07:36:21] <bawolff_>	 I mean participants are always really excited
[07:36:36] <AlwaysLivid>	 Are you all interested in an alternative that we're trying to put together? We're really in need of more organizations to be a part of the conversation.
[07:36:37] <Majavah>	 and I'm still trying to get Finnish customs to give me my prize for last year
[07:36:37] <bawolff_>	 The spirit seems much more fun then the more formal gsoc somehow
[07:36:42] <Gopa>	 Yes we got an offocoela email from google that google code 2019 was our last edition :(
[07:36:48] <Gopa>	 Official*
[07:37:42] <Gopa>	 (sorry for typos, I was on mobile)
[07:38:15] <bawolff_>	 AlwaysLivid: Well good luck, I hope you make it happen
[07:39:27] <AlwaysLivid>	 Yeah, we have a bunch of ideas (as we're few people), but the only thing we lack for the time being as far as the organization goes is reaching out to organizations.
[07:40:19] <Majavah>	 hopefully you can get something done, GCI was in my opinion best of the three Google programs
[07:40:39] * Majavah is totally not biased as a runner-up from last year and having not participated in anything else
[07:42:02] <Gopa>	 I really love GCI, This year 2019 edition, I was one of the administrator for wikimedia and I really enjoyed by seeing students enthusiasm and healthy competition :) 
[07:48:56] <bawolff_>	 I would definitely consider reaching out to the Developer advocacy team at WMF directly as well https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_Advocacy
[07:49:02] <bawolff_>	 I think that's the correct dept now
[07:49:04] <bawolff_>	 hard to keep track
[07:49:29] <bawolff_>	 Well really, andre__ is probably the best person, and he is already on your list
[07:51:16] <AlwaysLivid>	 Not sure, I'm putting this in the TO-DO document I sent earlier.
[08:01:16] <Gopa>	 AlwaysLivid: Also, feel free to reach wikimedia google code-in admins through an email "google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org"
[08:01:33] <AlwaysLivid>	 noted
[08:01:54] <Gopa>	 :)
[08:48:12] <Urbanecm>	 AlwaysLivid: Is there anything else I could help you with now?
[08:56:32] <AlwaysLivid>	 we just need participants in the conversations in all honesty, i'm really not sure as to how your internal hierarchy works but if you could bring that up that'd be great
[08:56:47] <AlwaysLivid>	 i'm a bit busy because i'm also trying to reach out to other organizations as well and measure the interest around it
[14:31:37] <absor70>	 Hi there, I'm having some issues with a migration from 1.31 to 1.34. Can someone help me with this change that was done on index.php PATH_INFO?
[14:32:12] <absor70>	 I'm lead to believe that this could be causing some of the issues I'm facing because I'm expecting to get some titles from $_GET
[14:33:49] <Reedy>	 What change?
[14:34:30] <absor70>	 the release notes say this: "Parameters for index.php from PATH_INFO, such as the title, are no longer written to $_GET."
[14:35:37] <Reedy>	 Are you using $_GET directly in an extension or something?
[14:36:09] <absor70>	 yes
[14:36:42] <Reedy>	 don't do that then :P
[14:36:59] <Reedy>	 generally, grab a webrequest object, and use that to inspect parameters and their values
[14:37:40] <absor70>	 Reedy: Ok, this is not a good practice overall or just because it changed in REL134?
[14:38:16] <Reedy>	 I don't think it's been advised to do that for a long time. Just REL1_34 changed some behaviour which broke whatever you're actually doing
[14:38:36] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker/Extension_Writing_Tutorial#Exercise_4:_Introducing_$wgRequest
[14:39:09] <Reedy>	 $wgRequest should mostly work, but might break in future... In favour of not using globals, and instead getting the webrequest object from a known context
[14:40:12] <absor70>	 Reedy: thanks, you solve it once more. Always very helpful :D
[14:40:22] <Reedy>	 I try ;D
[15:32:04] <amolith>	 is there a way I can dynamically list all the pages that use a specific template?
[15:33:59] <Reedy>	 What do you mean by dynamically?
[15:35:30] <amolith>	 if a new page uses the template, I want it to show up in the list without having to manually add it
[15:37:38] <amolith>	 I'm documenting my server setup and have a template to warn if a guide is unfinished. I want to list those incomplete pages on the overview page
[15:38:06] * Reedy tries to remember if you can transclude Special:WhatLinksHere limiting to transclusions
[15:38:27] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Transclusion#Special_pages
[15:38:28] <Reedy>	 I think so
[15:39:24] <Reedy>	 Yeah
[15:39:31] <Reedy>	 {{Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:TEMPLATENAMEGOESEHERE|hidelinks=1|hideredirs=1}}
[16:17:16] <Sky2042>	 oh hey I learned a thing
[16:17:19] <Sky2042>	 well played Reedy
[16:17:32] <Reedy>	 What have I done now
[16:17:46] <Sky2042>	 whatlinkshere transclusion trickery
[16:21:49] <Reedy>	 heh
[20:33:34] <ProcReader>	 any way to test a commit in an environment like en-wiki, or another live wiki? I know there's https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org but I don't think I can test on here unless my changes are already +2'd and merged into master, right?
[20:33:54] <ProcReader>	 or another live wiki, I mean an environment configured like one of the live wikis
[20:35:12] <Reedy>	 Not really
[20:35:44] <Reedy>	 There's a tool for kinda doing something like that.. I can't remember what it's called... But it's more spinning up a MW instance with a patchset, rather than bringing in enwiki config etc
[20:44:56] <amolith>	 Reedy: that is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!