[09:33:28] <Taichi>	 Hello.
[09:33:51] <Taichi>	 I can use any bot inactive in my own MediaWiki with Spanish Wikipedia imported???
[09:34:32] <gry>	 Taichi: why not?
[09:35:43] <Taichi>	 gry So, yes or no???
[10:25:20] <Forza_>	 Hi
[10:26:11] <Forza>	 I am trying to change the bottom links "Privacy Policy" and "About". Is it possible to rename these or add more links like "Terms and Conditions" ?
[10:26:39] <Forza>	 I tried to add what is described here but there isn't any change. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Footer#Add_links_to_the_footer
[10:29:29] <Forza>	 Oh I had to actually create the pages first. All sorted :D
[11:37:18] <AlexeyX>	 Hi there!
[11:38:50] <AlexeyX>	 Mediawiki with MantisAuth plugin... doesn't see php_api.php, which in /htdocs/core 
[12:12:00] <AlexeyX>	  PHP Fatal error:  require_once(): Failed opening required 'php_api.php' (include_path='/srv/www/htdocs/wiki:/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/includes
[12:12:19] <AlexeyX>	 where can I change include_path... ?
[12:38:34] <tgr>	 AlexeyX: php.ini, but usually having to change it manually means something is seriously misconfigured
[13:17:36] <AlexeyX>	 tgr, I added MantisAuth.php to extensions... and now mediawiki wants php_api.php form mantis includes...
[13:17:40] <AlexeyX>	 from*
[13:19:24] <tgr>	 that sounds like an unhealthy way to authenticate
[13:20:00] <tgr>	 I'm guessing it tries to share sessions between MW and Mantis which would not work reliably even if it did find that file
[13:20:52] <AlexeyX>	 Auth_MantisBT
[13:20:52] <AlexeyX>	 Auth_MantisBT is an extension for MediaWiki 1.27 and up which logs-in users into mediawiki automatically if they are already authenticated by a remote source. 
[13:20:53] <tgr>	 anyway, http://www.geeksengine.com/article/php-include-path.html
[13:22:24] <AlexeyX>	 thank you... maybe I use old version of extenstion...
[13:23:26] <Reedy>	 Noting MW 1.27 is rather old
[14:47:27] <tgr>	 Reedy: 1.27 was when AuthManager was released; there hasn't been any major change to authentication since then. So it's pretty common for auth extensions to specify their compatibility like that.
[14:47:46] <Reedy>	 Many other things that can have broken by then though
[17:37:09] <Forza>	 Hello. I just moved my mediawiki to php-fpm and now I get /index.php?title=Main_Page instead of /index.php/Main_Page What do I need to change to adjust this?
[17:39:22] <Majavah>	 Forza: see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL
[17:46:17] <Forza>	 Majavah: not helpful unfortunately
[17:46:30] <Forza>	 Just don't see the difference between php-fpm and mod php
[17:48:49] <Majavah>	 mod_php and php-fpm handle the "which file should I execute" part differently
[17:48:50] <Forza>	 The weird thing is that I can use the original url domain.com/index.php/page just that all links on the page contain index.php?title=
[17:49:12] <Forza>	 so it seems more a config thing in mediawiki than php
[17:49:38] <Majavah>	 can you try setting $wgArticlePath = '/index.php/$1'; in LocalSettings.php
[17:53:50] <Forza>	 Majavah: that fixed it! Thanks
[17:54:41] <Forza>	 Still new to this
[17:54:56] <Majavah>	 happy to help
[17:55:38] <Forza>	 I see on many wiki sites that they have breadcrumbs like page -> subpage -> article. What should I be looking for to get to that? so far I have looked at categories
[17:55:51] <Forza>	 like this, https://wiki.tnonline.net/index.php/Category:Btrfs
[17:56:18] <Majavah>	 what do you mean by "page -> subpage -> article"? do you have any examples?
[17:56:55] <Forza>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs2#Navigation
[17:57:08] <Forza>	 It shows: MediaWiki.org > Extensions > BreadCrumbs2
[17:57:24] <Reedy>	 You'd need an extension
[17:57:37] <Reedy>	 It's not a feature MW has in it
[18:02:19] <Forza>	 I got that extension installed but couldn't understand how to organise pages to chieve that. It isn't important. I think categories might be the better choice for what I intended
[18:03:33] <Forza>	 Thanks for your help. I need to have some supper. =)
[20:11:39] <wonderer>	 hi all
[20:11:51] <wonderer>	 while doing the following: php dumpBackup.php --full > "/wikifolderbackup/wiki-dump-$(date +\%d\%b\%Y-\%H\%M\%S).xml"
[20:12:19] <wonderer>	 i am getting this: PHP Warning:  mysqli::query(): MySQL server has gone away in /wiki/includes/libs/rdbms/database/DatabaseMysqli.php on line 46
[20:12:34] <wonderer>	 get to around 278 pages exported
[20:12:37] <Reedy>	 Server timeout
[20:12:40] <wonderer>	 there is over 1200pages
[20:12:45] <wonderer>	 and this used to work ok
[20:12:52] <wonderer>	 Reedy yea i see
[20:12:56] <Platonides>	 a request too big?
[20:13:00] <wonderer>	 but not sure how to resolve it
[20:13:12] <wonderer>	 i do this wiki backup weekly
[20:13:33] <wonderer>	 well it has worked since 2017
[20:13:37] <Platonides>	 you change the mysql server config
[20:13:46] <wonderer>	 only since april this year it started to fail
[20:14:02] <wonderer>	 well i migrated from centos vm to a raspberry pi
[20:14:19] * Reedy pretends to look shocked that an rpi is slow
[20:14:26] <wonderer>	 so the overhead i guess too much for raspbery pi 3b+?
[20:14:35] <wonderer>	 heh ya Reedy
[20:15:09] <wonderer>	 i was hopping to tweak the wiki backkup to work, hence asking here
[20:16:51] <wonderer>	 here is my output log: https://pastebin.com/LVyHitfA
[20:18:11] <wonderer>	 and here is the last backup to xml working in april: https://pastebin.com/ZytLntgZ
[20:19:03] <wonderer>	 can i throttle the backups to xml so they're less intensive?
[20:19:16] <Reedy>	 It's not necessarily even about "intensiveness"
[20:19:21] <Reedy>	 OOI, how long does it take before it fails?
[20:20:34] <Reedy>	 And does the warning then cause it to stop completely?
[20:21:32] <wonderer>	 around 5mins
[20:21:38] <wonderer>	 i kick it of at 2am
[20:24:43] <wonderer>	 here is the full log i output: https://pastebin.com/6Qp0RjYq
[20:26:19] <Reedy>	 I'm not just fobbing you off with links, but a few things to look at as per https://matomo.org/faq/troubleshooting/faq_183/
[20:26:29] <Reedy>	 (I obviously have no idea what settings you have set)
[20:29:02] <wonderer>	 thx Reedy and its doesnt look tome like you are fobbing me off!! thx
[20:37:44] <wonderer>	 think i found soultion here: https://central.owncloud.org/t/mysql-mariadb-optimal-settings-for-running-on-raspberrypi-3-model-b/17004
[20:37:55] <wonderer>	 i know its wrong channel
[20:38:13] <wonderer>	 but am guessing am not only one using rpi to run their wiki :)
[20:38:38] <Reedy>	 It's a hard one sometimes when there's overlap between projects
[20:39:51] <semaphore>	 I've installed MediaWiki on shared hosting and am trying to implement some form of text boxes on the wiki pages. I tried importing Template:Note and Template:Imbox from MediaWiki.org. Note fails because my shared hosting doesn't support Lua. Imbox import fails with the error `[XwRxR@Nr5h14Jfwnce47zwAATAY] 2020-07-07 12:59:34: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBTransactionStateError"'.
[20:41:38] <Platonides>	 what do you want text boxes for?
[20:41:48] <semaphore>	 I'd appreciate any help getting simple note-text boxes working on the wiki. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, but I'd prefer something off-the-shelf to creating my own template, though if the latter is less of a time sink, I'm open to it.
[20:42:30] <Platonides>	 ah
[20:42:43] <Platonides>	 not actual boxes to input text
[20:42:48] <Platonides>	 but a frame around some text
[20:43:04] <semaphore>	 Platonides: Right, yes. Sorry for the confusion. Not an HTML form, just call-out boxes for notes and asides.
[20:43:10] <Platonides>	 ok, fine
[20:43:14] <Platonides>	 Template:Imbox also uses Lua
[20:43:49] <Platonides>	 you may better use https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Imbox&action=edit&oldid=568631328
[20:43:57] <Platonides>	 which was the version prior of switching to Lua
[20:45:30] <semaphore>	 Platonides: Thanks! Will try it now.
[20:45:35] <Platonides>	 wonderer: what do you want those backups for?
[20:45:58] <Platonides>	 a simple mysqldump may be enough to suit your needs
[20:47:02] <semaphore>	 Platonides: Is there a way to specify the particular page version of the template I want in Special:Export?
[20:50:12] <wonderer>	 Platonides well u know the old saying backup,backup,backup!!
[20:50:33] <wonderer>	 and its gotten me out of the S$%&s plenty of times
[20:51:34] <wonderer>	 backing up the wiki is a personal thing, but i migrate my personal knowledge into coprpoaret env where wikis are used for procedures and knwoledge bases etc...
[20:52:04] <wonderer>	 Platonides i use mysqldump as a fallback
[20:52:28] <wonderer>	 the script i wrote in bash does both
[20:52:48] <Platonides>	 sure, you should backup :)
[20:52:49] <wonderer>	 + the media/files
[20:53:04] <Platonides>	 I meant just using mysqldump
[20:53:23] <Platonides>	 the backup xml are more useful for sharing your backups with the world
[20:53:40] <wonderer>	 i think i fell back to xml option on restarores as page link edteting in a sql env was not ideal
[20:54:11] <wonderer>	 at least wit xml import its just raw wiki data that import into new enviornment fine
[20:54:24] <wonderer>	 without worry of broken links to old places etc...
[20:54:56] <wonderer>	 Platonides yes for sahring or in my case like i said, migrations/restores
[20:55:27] <wonderer>	 anyways ive tweaked my cnf thx for suggestion Reedy/all will see if it work :)
[20:55:36] * wonderer waits now...
[20:55:55] <Platonides>	 the xml will require you to manually regenerate secondary tables, etc
[20:56:06] <Platonides>	 the sql dump only needs importing
[22:14:49] <wonderer>	 think found a bug in mediawiki search
[22:15:17] <wonderer>	 doing a search for: mysqldump -u root -p -h localhost 
[22:15:28] <wonderer>	 try it