[12:59:26] <grzesiek11>	 Hi, what values are avaliable in LocalSettings.php? I want to change the wgScriptPath and wgServer depending on what domain the request is made on, so I need to know URL or domain used to connect.
[13:01:42] <Shaun>	 I use the globals provided by php/apache for just that.  if ($_SERVER['SERVER_NAME']=== etc.  you're not restricted to values mediawiki provides
[13:03:54] <grzesiek11>	 I didn't know, thanks!
[13:04:31] <Shaun>	 I can't promise it's the tidiest way to do it.  I can promise that nothing about my wiki is tidy  lol
[13:08:03] <Vulpix>	 that's good enough
[13:08:05] <grzesiek11>	 Bodge is fine :P
[13:18:17] <Forza>	 Hi. Is it possible to set the a title="" in mediawiki when linking to external sites?
[13:34:02] <bleb>	 hi
[13:34:21] <bleb>	 what would be the easiest way to disable syntax hilighting?
[13:35:02] <bleb>	 for instance stuff like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language)#%22Hello,_world%22_example
[13:35:16] <bleb>	 but on my own instance
[13:36:33] <Reedy>	 Disable it?
[13:36:51] <Reedy>	 That's using an extension, so don't enable the extension is the easiest..
[13:36:57] <Shaun>	 that should just disappear if you don't have the syntaxhighlight plugin.  your example is written as <syntaxhighlight lang="c">
[13:37:27] <Shaun>	 (or a dummy that just wraps it in <pre> before spitting it back out)
[13:39:58] <bleb>	 ahhh i see
[13:40:00] <bleb>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css
[13:40:12] <bleb>	 ^ here is a better example of what i would like to disable
[13:40:42] <bleb>	 no <syntaxhighlight> in the source there
[13:41:13] <Reedy>	 Why do you care about disabling colouring of css pages? lol
[13:41:56] <bleb>	 if it's impossible i can live with it
[13:42:29] <bleb>	 but i would like to replicate what this wiki does https://wiki.voidlinux.org/MediaWiki:Common.css
[13:42:51] <Reedy>	 I think as per previous dicussions, they modify core files
[13:43:30] <bleb>	 ok
[13:44:07] <bleb>	 well its probably not worth it to force everything to black with css
[13:44:30] <bleb>	 since it's only for css pages that most won't have to look at
[13:45:10] <bleb>	 you would think that people who don't have SyntaxHilight enabled wouldnt want syntax hilighting
[13:45:32] <bleb>	 but i guess the extension interface doesnt lend itself to configuring css source pages?
[13:46:07] <Reedy>	 If no one will look at it, why waste time changing it?
[13:46:42] <bleb>	 i do wonder that
[13:46:52] <bleb>	 ;)
[16:40:54] <Krinkle>	 bleb: voidlinux  doesn't have SyntaxHighlight  installed afaik
[16:41:05] <Krinkle>	 they haven't  disabled  anything other  than to uninstall/not install the  extension that does  it  
[16:41:28] <Krinkle>	 hm.. well they do have it installed
[16:41:37] <Krinkle>	 but the  output is plain <pre>
[16:42:35] <Krinkle>	 intresting yeah, I guess they've patched it  so  that  it appies only  to articles with small portions  of <syntaxhighlight> but not to whole pages like Common.css
[16:42:55] <Krinkle>	 bleb: if you don't want it  anywhere, then removing wfLoadExtension('SyntaxHighlight') from LocalSettings.php will do  the trick :)
[17:04:54] <bleb>	 Krinkle: that's the thing, SyntaxHighlight is not enabled on my wiki
[17:05:50] <Krinkle>	 bleb:  It is  not listed on /wiki/Special:Version but when you view /wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css there is coloured text?
[17:06:07] <Krinkle>	 If so, it'd be  curious  what other  extensions  are  installed  :)
[17:06:12] <Krinkle>	 is  the wiki public?
[17:09:28] <bleb>	 its not public yet
[17:09:41] <bleb>	 its hosted by a wiki farm
[17:09:57] <bleb>	 turns out SyntaxHighlight does appear in /wiki/Special:Version
[17:10:04] <bleb>	 but it is not enabled in /wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions
[17:10:27] <bleb>	 actually its not even mentioned in /wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions
[17:12:31] <bleb>	 SyntaxHilighting is listed on this page: https://voidlinux.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Version
[17:12:39] <bleb>	 but not on here https://voidlinux.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions
[17:12:49] <bleb>	 i.e. there is no checkbox for SyntaxHighlighting that would let me enable/disable it
[17:12:51] <Reedy>	 paladox: ^
[17:13:00] <Reedy>	 It wouldn't be a surprise if it's a "default on" extension
[17:13:05] <paladox>	 oh
[17:13:10] <bleb>	 default on and can't be disabled?
[17:13:27] <paladox>	 yeh it's default https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/GlobalExtensions.php#L36
[17:14:12] <bleb>	 i thought "default" would mean "checked by default"
[17:14:16] <bleb>	 but there is simply no checkbox
[17:14:37] <paladox>	 It's just got to be moved to MWE which will allow you to disable it
[17:14:53] <bleb>	 oh
[17:15:01] <bleb>	 MWE is some other php file?
[17:15:38] <paladox>	 yeh, ManageWikiExtension
[17:16:34] <bleb>	 that was quick ^^
[17:16:55] <Reedy>	 Just need to know who are the right people to ping :P
[17:27:10] <paladox>	 bleb done with https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/3157
[17:33:06] <bleb>	 paladox: so i see the check box now, but it is unchecked, and i still have the highlighting in 
[17:33:44] <bleb>	 maybe if i check and uncheck
[17:35:41] <bleb>	 hmm still no changes
[17:36:06] <bleb>	 maybe the highlighting for css files is not controlled by the syntaxhilighting extension..
[17:38:03] <Reedy>	 Disabling it works locally
[17:38:12] <Reedy>	 Sounds like something isn't quite right in the miraheze config
[17:49:04] <Taichi>	 Hello, i can use toolforge in my computer or in Wikimedia Servers???
[17:54:47] <bleb>	 Reedy: are you sure you are looking at css pages like /wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css , and not just pages where there is <syntaxhighlighting> in the wiki source?
[17:54:56] <bleb>	 the former is what i'm having issues with
[17:56:09] <Reedy>	 Yes
[17:56:17] <Reedy>	 I looked at MediaWiki:Vector.css
[17:56:19] <Reedy>	 It was colour
[17:56:21] <Reedy>	 Turned off the extension
[17:56:23] <Reedy>	 Force refresh
[17:56:25] <Reedy>	 It was b/w
[17:57:23] <bleb>	 like shift+ctrl+r ?
[17:59:05] <Reedy>	 Depends on your OS, but yeah
[18:05:36] <paladox>	 bleb should try now
[18:55:48] <bleb>	 paladox: still: https://voidlinux.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css
[18:56:13] <bleb>	 (still syntax highlighted, at least for me)
[18:57:03] <Reedy>	 It's still enabled according to https://voidlinux.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Version
[18:57:30] <bleb>	 Reedy: it is listed under "installed"
[18:57:34] <bleb>	 does that also mean it's enabled?
[18:57:48] <Reedy>	 Yes
[18:57:50] <Reedy>	 Same thing
[18:58:04] <Reedy>	 Few extensions have an off switch after they're enabled
[18:58:06] <paladox>	 works now
[18:58:17] <paladox>	 i had wmgUseSyntaxHighlightGeSHi set to true by default
[18:58:23] <Reedy>	 paladox: fail ;P
[18:58:31] <paladox>	 heh
[18:59:09] <bleb>	 Reedy: then what is the point of the page https://voidlinux.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions
[18:59:19] <Reedy>	 That is not a standard MW feature
[18:59:24] <Reedy>	 I have no idea what it does, nor how it works
[18:59:32] <bleb>	 oh
[18:59:44] <Reedy>	 But there's no way miraheze can have it showing on Special:Version without it working on pages
[18:59:46] <paladox>	 https://voidlinux.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions manages the extensions you want enabled on your wiki.
[19:00:22] <bleb>	 ah yes lookin good now
[19:00:29] <bleb>	 paladox: thanks so much for your help
[19:00:33] <paladox>	 yw :)
[20:21:57] <Chess>	 Anyone know where I can appeal a block?
[20:22:07] <Chess>	 on MediaWiki
[20:22:31] <Chess>	 I just got blocked for inserting "Inserting false or outdated translations"
[20:22:54] <Chess>	 because I just copied and pasted the original english when I was translating
[20:23:03] <Chess>	 However I was translating into Canadian English
[20:24:49] <Majavah>	 I don't think MW.org has a formal appeals process, my guess would be to ping the blocking admin on your talkpage or send them an email
[20:25:33] <Chess>	 he blocked me from editing my talk page AND using email
[20:25:53] <Majavah>	 ... that's useful
[20:26:27] <Chess>	 I've been translating some stuff on Commons so I thought I might as well do so on MediaWiki as well
[20:30:43] <Majavah>	 I'm on my phone so hard to do anything helpful, sorry
[20:31:19] <Reedy>	 Chess: For en-ca, if it's theres no change to be made, don't translate it
[20:31:43] <Reedy>	 Got a link?
[20:32:28] <Majavah>	 Reedy: I guess https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Chess
[20:33:13] <Chess>	 that would've been nice to know before
[20:33:20] <Chess>	 all my stuff got deleted
[20:34:01] <Reedy>	 I don't recognise the blocking admin straight off
[20:34:16] <Reedy>	 But considering they didn't even leave you a talk page message...
[20:34:36] <Chess>	 well I basically just copied and pasted the original English for 80% of my edits
[20:34:38] <Chess>	 which is probably why
[20:34:55] <Chess>	 but I manually review and check spelling
[20:52:22] <Chess>	 the reason why I copied and pasted is because I'm translating into Canadian English which is almost the exact same as the English used on most pages on MediaWiki
[20:52:37] <Chess>	 sorry if I didn't make that clear
[21:10:45] <Vulpix>	 Chess: If there's no change in translation, you shouldn't create those translations. That wastes everyone's time: both your time, the people reviewing your edits, and future editors when the original page changes and need to update the now outdated translations
[21:52:25] <Guest37699>	 Hi, im trying to figure out how to get extended error details from DPL. Im using debug=X (tried 0 to 5), and im still getting no helpful msg. only: "Help:  $0= $3" (the problem is using count somehow)
[21:54:31] <Guest37699>	 Using this dpl: https://help.gamepedia.com/Extension:DPL3/Parameters:_Other_parameters#debug
[21:55:31] <Reedy>	 That's not an extension we maintain or host...
[21:57:55] <Guest37699>	 Just looking for anyone who know that, but im getting the same error for the maintained extension as well: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_(Wikimedia)
[21:58:42] <Reedy>	 I don't know if they have any common code