[02:08:16] is there a way from within wikitext to detect user options? [12:10:11] Hi. I have been using https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_(Wikimedia)#addfirstcategorydate to order my pages. However it seems that it takes the last edited date rather than the initial creation time. Is this a bug or intended behaviour? [12:12:08] last edited time/initial creation time of what? [12:12:33] It uses cl_timestamp [12:12:36] -- This isn't really used at present. Provided for an optional [12:12:36] -- sorting method by approximate addition time. [12:12:36] cl_timestamp timestamp NOT NULL, [12:15:18] If you look at https://wiki.tnonline.net/w/Blog [12:15:29] Lentil Curry page was created on 3'rd of August [12:15:49] but I edited it to add a category, and then DPL thinks it is created 15th [12:16:09] I am using "addfirstcategorydate = true" [12:16:20] I thought that would be creation time rather than Edit time [12:16:26] As above, it uses the time it was approximately added to the category [12:16:40] What does that mean? [12:16:50] Literally as it says [12:17:08] When it's added to the category, a db row is inserted with a time of when that happened (approximately) [12:17:36] So that row is updated when I edit a page? [12:18:10] Thre is a Page Creation Date stored though: https://wiki.tnonline.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Blog/Lentil_Curry&action=info [12:18:38] Not when you edit a page... But if you change stuff like the sort key, it'll get updated [12:18:43] or anything that updates the row [12:18:58] But as the description says [12:18:59] >addfirstcategorydate shows the date each article was added to category. [12:19:03] It doesn't say the page creation date [12:19:10] Like adding another category [12:19:23] Yes true. But I wanted creation date :p [12:19:56] RTFM? ;) [12:19:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_(Wikimedia)#Order [12:19:59] >ordermethod determines the order and date to display. The value can be: [12:20:02] >created — by article creation date [12:22:46] Yea, and that does not add the created date, does it [12:23:04] No [12:23:20] I guess no one has found a use case to add that [12:23:25] File a bug requesting it can be added [12:23:34] It may or may not be implemented [12:23:54] There is this. It might be what I wanted? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88396 [12:24:08] Sounds a lot like it [12:30:58] OK I added a comment to it. It does look like an abandoned task. It's 5 years old. [12:34:03] You changed it to low prio [12:47:37] I edited the sql db for now. wasn't hard to do :) [12:49:02] setting priority to match reality