[00:01:19] <Reedy>	 What do you mean by access it?
[00:04:26] <Cocopuff2018>	 if the self hosted wiki has no license how do we get one
[00:04:56] <Reedy>	 What has the license got to do with LocalSettings?
[00:06:09] <Cocopuff2018>	 nothing but how do we get one
[00:06:17] <Reedy>	 Complete the installer
[00:06:21] <Reedy>	 It'll give you it to download
[00:06:29] <Cocopuff2018>	 can ya link it
[00:07:39] <Reedy>	 What?
[00:21:11] <foreclosurepedia>	 @Reedy may I pm you?
[00:22:02] <Reedy>	 About?
[00:22:26] <foreclosurepedia>	 Composer ... 
[00:23:02] <foreclosurepedia>	 Cocopuff2018 you want an install of MW correct?
[00:23:28] <foreclosurepedia>	 Do you want that on your on laptop/desktop or at a hosting provider?
[01:49:24] <xinbenlv>	 Hi there, does anyone know how to get visual diff like this from API:Compare? https://ibb.co/BfryXPR
[02:07:26] <Cocopuff2018>	 It will Be pc
[02:17:19] <xinbenlv>	 what's PC?
[04:17:03] <legoktm>	 xinbenlv: I'm not sure there's an API yet for "visual diffs"
[06:39:45] <Jayprakash12345>	 Hi, Is there any way to hide specific language from output of <language /> in Extension:Translate?
[07:36:47] <kwnmwn>	 Anyone have beginner tips on setting up caching on a shared host?
[07:36:59] <kwnmwn>	 I'm on 1.34.2 and still have the default CACHE_NONE, which I hear is bad
[07:40:00] <legoktm>	 kwnmwn: does your shared host have apcu, memcached or redis installed?
[07:42:29] <kwnmwn>	 Yes to memcached but only on 'dedicated servers'
[07:42:34] <kwnmwn>	 No to redis
[07:42:53] <kwnmwn>	 Not sure as far as apcu, I'm nots seeing any documentation on their website
[07:43:36] <kwnmwn>	 But if I type in "man memcached" while logged into the server, it does return a man page for memcached, so maybe?
[07:43:45] <legoktm>	 apcu is a PHP extension
[07:45:06] <legoktm>	 see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Memcached
[07:45:33] <kwnmwn>	 How would I check if that extension is installed on my webhost's PHP?
[07:47:48] <Majavah>	 you can run `php -m` to show all installed php modules
[07:49:52] <kwnmwn>	 Thanks, I see memcached in that list but not apcu
[07:51:10] <kwnmwn>	 Sounds like memcached is my only option... but is that overkill for a small private wiki? 
[07:52:03] <kwnmwn>	 Could I hypothetically get by with CACHE_NONE for a small private wiki, or is that a security issue? 
[07:54:20] <Majavah>	 not a security issue, your wiki will just be really slow
[07:56:31] <kwnmwn>	 True, it is pretty slow
[08:21:04] <kwnmwn>	 Thanks for the help! I'll start digging into the memcached manual and see if I can implement it on my host
[08:25:53] <misc42>	 Hi, is there a release date for 1.35? TIA
[08:29:34] <legoktm>	 misc42: no, there are still some release blocking bugs that have been found which need fixing
[08:32:07] <misc42>	 legotm: Thx, can you (or someone) estimate a release date? If it'll be somewhere in september I can wait. If not before november I'll have to rethink a project ...
[08:37:39] <misc66>	 Sorry, my browser lost connection. Is there an estimated time needed for fixing the relase stopping bugs? If relase will be november or later I have to rethink a project of mine... TIA
[08:38:18] <misc66>	 * release
[08:40:48] <legoktm>	 misc66: I don't think it'll be any later than September
[08:41:42] <legoktm>	 in theory 1.36 should be out in November
[08:41:56] <misc66>	 Ok, thank you!
[12:51:14] <Vulpix>	 Is someone here with a Mac? It would be nice to assess if this mention would be necessary https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Vqorbrkeq2sxv4bg
[12:56:03] <Vulpix>	 Oh, apparently someone added The Unarchiver already to the template... on warning that it corrupts the extracted files :)
[14:23:56] <James_F>	 legoktm: I re-wrote 1.36's deadline as Feb 2021 on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle given the continuing unpleasantness.
[14:25:36] <Reedy>	 Offhand that sounded too far away
[14:25:39] <Reedy>	 But it's actually about right
[17:49:53] <James_F>	 Reedy: Yeah. :-(
[19:33:06] <harmaahylje>	 Is the 1.35 gonna come out still this month?
[19:34:07] <Reedy>	 As of the last communication professing a date, it should've been out weeks ago
[19:35:37] <harmaahylje>	 so maybe next month
[19:36:24] <Reedy>	 As of the last rc, there's been a few more issues come up
[19:36:38] <Reedy>	 So partially waiting for those to be sorted
[19:37:59] <harmaahylje>	 thanks for the information
[19:51:05] <legoktm>	 James_F: :| I suppose that makes sense though