[00:03:11] <Bert_2>	 Hi, probably this question gets asked every couple of hours: is there any kind of ETA or roadmap on MediaWiki 1.35? Half the world is excited for a stable PHP version of VisualEditor, it seems :)
[00:19:05] <Cocopuff2018>	 is it possible to change the permission error message from protected pages?
[00:24:19] <Bert_2>	 Cocopuff2018: have a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Interface_messages
[00:24:36] <Bert_2>	 there, special pages with the MediaWiki: prefix are referenced
[00:24:45] <Bert_2>	 one of those should probably have what you're looking for
[00:24:50] <Bert_2>	 but I'm not an expert
[09:45:42] <nikty>	 Hello everyone!
[09:54:47] <mossylane>	 hi nikty 
[10:05:43] <nikty>	 We broke our RecentChanges page after editing wiki via bot, it won't display changes older than bot's, including bot's
[10:06:54] <nikty>	 Bot edited single page, few word; recentchanges table in MySQL still holds all the old date, but RecentChanges display only edits after bot's
[10:07:37] <nikty>	 do you have any suggestions about the cause of the problem?
[10:08:03] <nikty>	 *old data
[10:08:47] <Vulpix>	 click the link "show bot edits" (old mediawiki) / remove the filter "only humans (no bot)"
[10:09:05] <Vulpix>	 Also adjust the age and quantity of changes to display
[10:11:09] <nikty>	 Did that, tinkering with filters doesn't help
[20:36:48] <eostre>	 greetings all
[20:37:26] <eostre>	 I have a really old (ubuntu 10.04/mw 1.21) mediawiki server that I've been tasked with upgrading
[20:39:02] <eostre>	 is there an ideal way of moving the wiki, including revision history, to a modern installation?
[20:43:07] <harmaahylje>	 I think I did 1.21 -> 1.30
[20:43:31] <harmaahylje>	 expect a lot of extensions to break, consider yourself lucky if there aren't many. The main reason they break of course is that no one maintains them
[20:44:30] <harmaahylje>	 I don't know about an ideal way, but all you need to do really is to preserve the media/user uploaded files, adjust the configuration files to follow the version upgrading to, and then BACKING UP DATABASE and migrating it with the script MW provides
[20:45:33] <eostre>	 why thank you
[20:46:50] <harmaahylje>	 what?
[20:47:17] <eostre>	 you gave me information that will probably be useful
[20:47:25] <eostre>	 so I thank you
[20:47:51] <harmaahylje>	 oh ok, glad to be of help. Check out documentation, MW has pretty decent docs, if you just manage to find the correct ones
[20:48:47] <p858snake>	 !upgrading | eostre
[20:48:47] <wm-bot>	 eostre: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[20:48:48] <harmaahylje>	 I don't know if MW can be installed with composer or other package manager these days, but I would look into it, and automating the version upgrades, so that this doesn't happen again
[21:22:55] <Krinkle>	 Jdlrobson: hm.. does the MF storybook not need only one extra curl fetch for this file to be added to the local import dir like for others already?
[22:38:01] <foreclosurepedia>	 MW 1.34.2: https broken due to import from WP adobe icon 13px. Is there a way to either separate it or get the proper icon. It is in the footnote section.
[22:38:28] <foreclosurepedia>	 https://digitalmatrixgroup.com/index.php/Cape_Coral,_Florida
[22:39:21] <Reedy>	 >Loading mixed (insecure) display content "https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif/15px-Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif" on a secure page
[22:39:22] <Reedy>	 wat
[22:39:24] <Reedy>	 it'sa https
[22:42:16] <Reedy>	 It's ok after a refresh
[22:48:28] <foreclosurepedia>	 Reedy: Not sure if that was for me; however, after Purge the Not Secure remains. Let's Encrypt, should I push this to my host? Thanx
[22:48:51] <Reedy>	 Look at the error, it's not loading insecure content, it's loading HTTP content
[22:49:00] <Reedy>	 the only thing is it's from anothr site
[22:49:30] <foreclosurepedia>	 Suggestions to make it comport to https on my end? Thanx
[22:49:44] <Reedy>	 Look at hte browser console error
[22:49:47] <Reedy>	 I pasted the whole thing
[22:49:52] <Reedy>	 I doubt it's doing anything different for you
[22:49:58] <Reedy>	 Wikimedia does not serve any content over HTTP
[22:50:01] <Reedy>	 Haven't for years
[22:51:05] <foreclosurepedia>	 From Console: Mixed Content: The page at 'https://digitalmatrixgroup.com/index.php/Cape_Coral,_Florida' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure image 'http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif/15px-Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif'. This content should also be served over HTTPS.
[22:51:29] <foreclosurepedia>	 Imported from Special:Export on WP and Special:Import to my wiki
[22:51:42] <Reedy>	 Those images are being used from presumably a cite template
[22:51:50] <Reedy>	 Falling back using instant commons
[22:52:21] <foreclosurepedia>	 Suggestions on how I could alter? Perhaps pull the image out and then resave?
[22:52:33] <foreclosurepedia>	 I'm in Chrome BTW
[22:53:02] <foreclosurepedia>	 I imported the page from WP 
[22:53:44] <foreclosurepedia>	 Reedy: And thanx you are in here morning, noon, and night. Must get less sleep than me ;)
[22:54:01] * Reedy scratches his head
[22:54:03] <Reedy>	 >Loading mixed (insecure) display content "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif/15px-Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif" on a secure page
[22:54:10] <Reedy>	 How can it tell me it's HTTPS one moment, HTTP the next
[22:54:20] <foreclosurepedia>	 Not sure but that is what console says
[22:55:10] <foreclosurepedia>	 I am a weekend type of coder ... I imported direct from xml and thus ... 
[22:55:48] <foreclosurepedia>	 can grant private access via DM or ... perhaps this is something others experience and have not reported?
[22:58:51] <Reedy>	 Found it
[22:58:57] <Reedy>	 it's coming from some of your CSS...
[22:59:12] <Reedy>	 https://digitalmatrixgroup.com/load.php?lang=en&modules=site.styles&only=styles&skin=vector
[22:59:34] <Reedy>	 #mw_content a[href*=".PDF#"].external {
[22:59:34] <Reedy>	  background:url(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif/15px-Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif) center right no-repeat;
[22:59:35] <Reedy>	  padding-right:16px
[22:59:35] <Reedy>	 }
[22:59:36] <Reedy>	 and....
[22:59:40] <Reedy>	 #mw_content span.PDFlink a {
[22:59:40] <Reedy>	  background:url(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif/15px-Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif) center right no-repeat;
[22:59:41] <Reedy>	  padding-right:17px
[22:59:43] <Reedy>	 }
[23:00:57] <foreclosurepedia>	 Very good. All imported from MW and WP. I thought I ran MonoBook. Should I shift to Vector and if so suggestions on how? Or in the alternative what is recommendation to correct? Thanx
[23:01:26] <Reedy>	 https://digitalmatrixgroup.com/index.php/MediaWiki:Common.css
[23:01:45] <Reedy>	 You've got numerous http://upload.wikimedia.org in there
[23:01:57] <Reedy>	 Where did you actually import it from?
[23:02:26] <foreclosurepedia>	 All from MW and WP. Should I delete all .js and .css and reupload direct?  Thanx
[23:02:42] <Reedy>	 I'd just replace http://upload.wikimedia.org with https://upload.wikimedia.org in that page
[23:03:07] <foreclosurepedia>	 Ok and thanx so much for the advice!
[23:04:06] <Reedy>	 Ah, I see
[23:04:06] <Reedy>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
[23:04:12] <Reedy>	 	background: url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Sound-icon.svg") no-repeat scroll 0 0 transparent;
[23:04:18] <Reedy>	 	background: url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Icons-mini-file_acrobat.gif") no-repeat right;
[23:04:26] <Reedy>	 Somehow the protocol relative links... became http on your site?
[23:06:07] <foreclosurepedia>	 So perhaps in the import? Could be serious if it is sitewide? Here is a page with Cargo, Forms, etc. Still working on Lua;however, ...
[23:06:39] <foreclosurepedia>	 https://digitalmatrixgroup.com/index.php/76RWM2H6%2B4G
[23:06:46] <foreclosurepedia>	 Fine there
[23:07:04] <foreclosurepedia>	 Seems only specific to <ref> in pulling the icon
[23:08:28] <Reedy>	 yeah, which makes sense
[23:08:36] <Reedy>	 as that'st he only code using the css
[23:09:33] <Reedy>	 https://digitalmatrixgroup.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&type=revision&diff=792&oldid=269
[23:09:52] <Reedy>	 You added it in this change
[23:09:52] <Reedy>	 curprev 18:46, 27 August 2020‎ Ghost talk contribs‎ 25,284 bytes -3,563‎ From Wikipedia WikiProject TransWiki
[23:13:08] <foreclosurepedia>	 So, could I delete all the code out of Common, replace direct and then probably better and pure? And to that point will it cascade over if I upgrade in the future. Thanx
[23:13:21] <foreclosurepedia>	 And you have to let me buy you a cup of coffee!
[23:14:48] <Reedy>	 I've not really gone into detail to see what you've changed in that diff
[23:14:59] <Reedy>	 But yeah, re-importing that one page could be easiest
[23:15:49] <foreclosurepedia>	 So I have MW Common and WP Common which one would be to replace in total. And I am not in a real important production site just like to try and try again. Thanx
[23:18:12] <foreclosurepedia>	 And how do I register my Nick and Password so I can speak with you at leisure? Can I do the code in here or do I go out and execute the code? Thanx
[23:22:08] <mutante>	 foreclosurepedia: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
[23:22:10] <foreclosurepedia>	 Answered. Hopefully the logs will reflect. I deleted everything and inserted the MediaWiki version located at Wikipedia. The https is now proper
[23:22:46] <foreclosurepedia>	 Thanx. Do I execute those commands here now?
[23:23:06] <mutante>	 if you are asking about your nickname on IRC chat.. yes
[23:23:19] <foreclosurepedia>	 Thanx! Doing it now ...
[23:23:28] <mutante>	 you talk to the special user called "nickserv"
[23:24:20] <foreclosurepedia>	 I am talking about setting a constant username and password so that I can communicate with IM 
[23:25:30] <foreclosurepedia>	 msg foreclosurepedia REGISTER *FcPd2021 coo@foreclosurepedia.org
[23:26:08] <mutante>	 foreclosurepedia: ehm.. yea.. but don't drop the / at the beginning and do that again now with a different password..that was not supposed to be public
[23:26:29] <mutante>	 the / at the beginning makes it a command
[23:26:49] <mutante>	 or open a private window with nickserv first
[23:27:07] <mutante>	 ugh
[23:34:52] <foreclosurepedia>	 @Reedy Am I now registered properly?
[23:36:05] <foreclosurepedia>	 Regardless, the fix worked. Thank you again!
[23:39:36] <foreclosurepedia>	 I can talk via PM which is important thanx for the help sir or ma'am.
[23:40:19] <foreclosurepedia>	 heading out for the night. an @Reedy has been very helpful to me and thank y'all for helping us non coders. Have a great evening!