[00:00:05] <Reedy>	 MediaWikiServices::getInstance()->getDBLoadBalancer()->getMaintenanceConnectionRef( DB_REPLICA )
[00:00:08] <Reedy>	 Something along those lines
[00:00:17] <jfolv>	 Yikes, seems really wordy
[00:00:32] <Reedy>	 It depends what you're doing and where
[00:00:42] <Reedy>	 There might be other ways to get a db object
[00:45:25] <jfolv>	 I'm still running into some errors here. https://pastebin.com/2jWy8Fxs This is the extension's main php file. I changed DB_SLAVE to DB_REPLICA, but I suspect that the way he was doing probably doesn't work anymore due to changes to the core. Maybe I could get some insight?
[00:46:21] <legoktm>	 what's the error message?
[00:46:42] <legoktm>	 you're missing a space after "class" on line 10
[00:47:27] <Reedy>	 And a couple of other things...
[00:47:29] <jfolv>	 That must've been a copy/paste error. Space is there on prod. One sec and I'll pull the error
[00:47:31] <Reedy>	 You don't need the trailing ?>
[00:47:35] <Reedy>	 $dbr =& wfGetDB(DB_REPLICA);
[00:47:37] <Reedy>	 You don't need the &
[00:48:19] <jfolv>	 Yeah I wondered about that myself
[00:48:24] <jfolv>	 Why assign by reference?
[00:48:39] <jfolv>	 It didn't really make sense in this context, but I figured maybe I just didn't understand
[00:50:24] <jfolv>	 https://pastebin.com/pUtpa2v1  This is the error I got
[00:50:46] <Reedy>	 that's not related to that code..
[00:52:02] <jfolv>	 So... any ideas what it might be related to then?
[00:52:37] <jfolv>	 I do not understand anything about the class he extended
[00:53:56] <legoktm>	 (the & is left over from PHP 4)
[00:54:03] <Reedy>	 Does pear/net_socket/Net/Socket.php exist in your vendor?
[00:54:50] <legoktm>	 I'd also suggest enabling the settings on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug so we get longer stack traces,
[00:57:57] <jfolv>	 That file does indeed exist, Reedy
[00:58:15] <jfolv>	 Also, I notice that the account I was trying to create was created successfully
[00:58:18] <jfolv>	 Despite getting a 500
[00:58:32] <Reedy>	 it probably failed trying to send an email to it down the way
[00:58:42] <jfolv>	 That actually makes sense
[00:58:55] <jfolv>	 This particular test install isn't pointed at any SMTP server, I don't think
[00:59:08] <Reedy>	 that shouldn't have caused that error though
[01:00:29] <jfolv>	 Maybe the vendor directories need updating?
[01:00:58] <Reedy>	 depends on your setup, but if you haven't since changing branches, it's likely
[01:02:35] <jfolv>	 Those are done via composer, right?
[01:04:46] <Reedy>	 What is your actual setup?
[01:04:52] <Reedy>	 Are you using tarballs, or git repo?
[01:14:16] <jfolv>	 tarballs. I took this job about a month ago and there's an insane amount of technical debt. They don't use a VCS, they have uncommented custom extensions, they added in ads and skin customizations by modifying core files... It's a nightmare. Right now, I need this to work with the upgrade, then I plan on setting up a vcs (probably git)
[01:14:54] <Reedy>	 I was meaning are you using our git repo
[01:15:09] <Reedy>	 So... if you're using the tarball, unless you've modified it, the vendor folder should've been correct for MW core
[01:15:15] <jfolv>	 Well I'm downloading the releases from there
[01:15:28] <jfolv>	 But not with git clone
[01:15:45] <jfolv>	 I've been downloading onto my comp then uploading to the server
[01:28:19] <Reedy>	 As legoktm said above, you might want to enable some more debugign stuff too
[01:43:46] <jfolv>	 Yeah I think I'll try that.
[06:53:19] <Nik14>	 Hi, I want to expose my wiki users a template that will show a given (parameter) text and caption inside a specially div with css class, lets call it colorfull textbox.
[06:54:07] <Nik14>	 I've done that in the naive way, but i got some problems, the text the i send (As paramter) to the colorfull textbox cant start with "=" or "#" so i cant write headers and list.
[06:55:01] <Nik14>	 I saw that this is a general problem with passing parameters, So i wanted to ask here - Someone knows a solution to what i described? (maybe template is not the right approch?) thank you!
[07:12:01] <Nik14>	 What this syntax means?    {|    or |}
[07:15:07] <Majavah>	 Nik14: that's a table
[07:18:49] <Nik14>	 I saw a template on the global wikipedia that uses this "trick" in order to show "#" and "=" in the right way, How that solves that?
[07:26:33] <synaps3>	 how to manually add images to mw ?
[07:26:51] <synaps3>	 i cannot use upload option, so i copied images to /images dir 
[07:26:56] <synaps3>	 but i cannot use them from wiki 
[07:38:21] <synaps3>	 any way to display image from a link ?
[07:38:28] <synaps3>	 like imgur.com/jsdkadjakd
[07:40:02] <p858snake>	 synaps3: you still need to import the images if you put them in the uploads folder - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ImportImages.php
[07:41:06] <synaps3>	 thank you so much  p858snake
[07:41:35] <p858snake>	 if you want external images https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages
[07:43:04] <synaps3>	 thanks
[14:47:54] <twojukeboksi>	 Hello and thanks for the awesome software. I have a weird situation, probably a bad situation. Accounts are request only (checked with non-logged in browers, the "request account" is in the top-right), yet I notice 6 accounts having been created. There isn't supposed to be any other method to create accounts except to request one from me
[14:48:38] <Reedy>	 Are registered users allowed to create other accounts?
[14:48:42] <twojukeboksi>	 For context: I did 1.34.2 -> 1.35 upgrade on Monday
[14:49:00] <twojukeboksi>	 Reedy: I'm not sure. Where do I check?
[14:49:22] <Reedy>	 either your local settings.. or Special:ListGroupRights
[14:49:24] <twojukeboksi>	 I have not set that
[14:51:00] <twojukeboksi>	 Reedy: Special:ListGroupRights In I see "Group all -> create account". I want to revert to post upgrade backup and change this setting
[14:51:22] <twojukeboksi>	 The place had a spammer problem back in the day
[14:52:01] <twojukeboksi>	 Am I making the right assumption that it is one or more of the existing accounts that have added the 6 new accounts?
[14:52:03] <Reedy>	 This is basically T263920
[14:52:04] <stashbot>	 T263920: The createaccount permission is not revoked properly when using extension registration - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263920
[14:52:51] <Reedy>	 It is mentioned in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount#Installation too (though, maybe not the most obvious)
[14:54:37] <twojukeboksi>	 Reedy: Thanks. That would seem to be the solution to "$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false;". I'm assuming I can override this setting so I can create accounts, should someone else also care about the future of humanity
[14:54:48] <Reedy>	 Yeah
[14:55:00] <Reedy>	 You can then do something like $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['createaccount'] = true;
[14:55:53] <twojukeboksi>	 Just 6 accounts created. No edits, so I just load the 2 days old backup into MySQL, no need to extract the /var/www/sitename
[14:57:04] <twojukeboksi>	 this is gonna be 5 minutes to fix with this information. Thanks again Reedy. You're the champ.
[15:04:56] <twojukeboksi>	 sorted. so was a 7 minute thing
[15:06:20] <twojukeboksi>	 needed to dump the right database from the database dump validity checking place somewhere in the EU and do the other steps. Now the spammer / up-to-no-gooder accounts have vanished and I applied those two lines you gave me Reedy
[15:09:09] <twojukeboksi>	 Ok. SSF! wiki was not the only one hit with this vulnerability Consumerium's development wiki is full of Viagra
[15:10:24] <twojukeboksi>	 But no non-spam edits, so I'ma just dump the 2 days old backup from backup server and upload... actually fix the vulnerability first, then revert database
[15:10:41] * twojukeboksi goes to brew coffee
[15:21:27] <duesen>	 twojukeboksi: you may want to have a look at the Nuke extension
[15:21:56] <twojukeboksi>	 looking
[15:22:01] <twojukeboksi>	 I'm probably not the only one in here who would like an induction powered stay-hot coffee mug
[15:23:40] <twojukeboksi>	 thank you duesen. noted for any future needs, but this we can deal with brute database upload. zero losses
[15:23:59] <duesen>	 cheers!
[15:38:46] <twojukeboksi>	 ok. all wikis secured against normal "users" creating more users and spam gone with mysqldump from the database dump verification and stashing place. y'all are awesome
[15:43:25] <twojukeboksi>	 I've been upgrading Consumerium's developement wiki since March 2003 :D :D Once one has upgraded a complex software for 17.5 yrs and it just works unless I've messed something up, one is like "This is a hiiiiiiigh quality piece of applicataion of the arts and sciences of software engineering"
[15:49:14] <Shaun>	 you've had better luck than I have then :)  I still clone it off to a spare box and upgrade it several times over before I clench and push it live
[15:50:59] <twojukeboksi>	 Shaun: your method is more pro
[15:51:21] <twojukeboksi>	 I could do it by spinning a new server from an image of the system disk of the VPS
[15:51:35] <Shaun>	 more "once bitten twice shy".  I keep hitting weird edges upgrading
[15:52:15] <twojukeboksi>	 I'm at this German hosting company that got data center in Finland, whose pricing policy for snapshots is really consumer-friendly: 0.01€ / GB / Month + VAT
[15:53:13] <twojukeboksi>	 seriously 1.24 eurocents for safekeeping of 1GB of snapshot for one month, ready at all times for recovery, wow
[16:02:09] <jtm-lis>	 yes Germany has crazy good prices. I know of a few people here on the eastcoast that use german servers, for personal use, 1tb is like 10 euro or something cheap like that
[16:06:51] <twojukeboksi>	 I got a 8GB, 4 core, 200GB SSD VPS at a ground water heat exchanger equipped data centre in Bavaria ... for 5€ / month ... VAT incl. 
[16:07:17] <twojukeboksi>	 But I think I'm moving that to this better and more expensive provider that I go the "important" stuff hosted with
[16:07:31] <absorto>	 hi peoples, any pointers on a hook for when the Setup.php has done its thing? I want to check if user is logged or not and then do a bunch of stuff on a extension
[18:15:40] <zocky>	 how do I transclude a template from a parser function, with custom arguments?
[18:17:53] <zocky>	 i can do $frame->newChild and $parser->fetchTemplate and $frame->expand($dom)
[18:18:25] <zocky>	 but i don't know how to set the args from my own values
[19:51:09] <foreclosurepedia>	 MW 1:35 Heavy WP template use. Is there a way to cache in laymans terms or things which might speed up things? An average wait time is 20 seconds for a page load. Thx
[19:51:30] <foreclosurepedia>	 Small or large page is irrespective
[19:58:03] <Reedy>	 !performance
[19:58:03] <wm-bot>	 <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aaron_Schulz/How_to_make_MediaWiki_fast> <http://mituzas.lt/2007/01/26/mediawiki-performance-tuning/>
[19:58:09] <Reedy>	 Caching is probably the answer
[20:00:25] <foreclosurepedia>	 reading now thx
[20:11:53] <foreclosurepedia>	 Wow! Nuts with just a few changes. Is the concept that as soon as I view a page it caches it and thus is faster and does this apply to anyone say viewing that page? thx
[20:12:40] <Reedy>	 Basically, yes
[20:13:54] <foreclosurepedia>	 Cool! Thanks!
[20:40:39] <foreclosurepedia>	 MW 1.35: Coordinates work at top of page but not internally on WP Template:Infobox settlement. Generates: Fatal error: The format of the coordinate could not be determined. Parsing failed.
[20:41:04] <foreclosurepedia>	 Everything else works fine. Read somewhere that WP does not use the Maps extension?
[20:41:54] <foreclosurepedia>	 https://digitalmatrixgroup.com/index.php/Birmingham,_Alabama
[20:45:38] <foreclosurepedia>	 Looks like this piece: {{coord|33|31|07|N|86|48|37|W|region:US-AL|display=inline,title}} is the issue. Coords appear at the top right of the Infobox but not inline
[21:59:26] <Krinkle>	 foreclosurepedia: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Performance_tuning
[21:59:33] <Krinkle>	 might have some more up to date stuff
[22:06:26] <foreclosurepedia>	 Thanks @krinkle So far the tweaks have been INCREDIBLE but I am a pretty small MW
[22:32:59] <Zoohouse>	 Hello all, hope everyone is doing well. Quick question. Is there a tool to sync the articles in a mediawiki installation to files on local computer?
[22:35:07] <Zoohouse>	 As an example: I would like to download all of my pages as text in a directory. Edit them, create new pages, etc locally then push my changes up to my mediawiki on my server. 
[22:39:00] <Reedy>	 We have a maintenance script for importing text files...
[22:40:06] <Zoohouse>	 oh..
[22:40:54] <Reedy>	 There was a feature for "offline editing" like that before, but it was removed a long time ago
[22:41:53] <Zoohouse>	 I see... gosh, would be so useful to be able to work on my articles via vim or something... 
[22:42:30] <Reedy>	 I mean, https://github.com/m-pilia/vim-mediawiki does exist
[22:42:31] <Zoohouse>	 humm... maybe I can find a VIM plugin to edit the wiki...
[22:43:06] <Zoohouse>	 Awesome! I'll give that a try
[22:45:01] <Zoohouse>	 The Asynchronous Wikis thing sounds interesting. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Asynchronous_Wikis
[23:32:32] <burning>	 heya, I'm trying to sort out some SMTP configuration. Wiki says the settings are stored in an array in $wgSMTP
[23:32:45] <burning>	 is this in the LocalSettings.php file in my mediawiki directory?
[23:33:18] <burning>	 because I looked in there and was unable to find any note of "$wgSMTP"
[23:36:05] <Reedy>	 Yes, you would put the config in wgSMTP
[23:36:10] <Reedy>	 in LocalSettings
[23:37:15] <burning>	 ah thanks, so I'm guessing it's normal for it not to be in the file by default? the array I mean
[23:37:52] <Reedy>	 Indeed
[23:37:56] <Reedy>	 Most of them aren't in there
[23:38:06] <burning>	 thx. Just wanted to make sure