[01:16:36] dancy: RoanKattouw: RE - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/643370/ no worries, but just wondering, does it matter that we clear it (also) as part of that? It was my impression that mainly we need to (at least) clear MBS after deplly which we don't right now [01:43:40] Krinkle: Yeah dancy and I talked about this [01:43:52] He had a plan that I remember thinking would work, I think it's to clear MBS after deploy [01:44:04] Note this only adds a flag to the script that's off by default [01:55:05] RoanKattouw: right, this would make it no longer call this function before deploy, but afaik that's just a single call to memcached, fairly cheap. just checking if I'm maybe misreading what it does and/or missing the motivation to optimise that away. don't midn either way, but just checking if there's more to it :) [01:56:08] we still need to add it elsewhere, presumably by calling it from another maint script like refreshMessageBlobs.php [03:48:27] Yeah I believe that's the plan, but dancy can confirm [11:09:46] Hello! I have a mediawiki site with a few categories. I am trying to get the semantic #ask query (https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Inline_queries) to work on them. Even though #ask works for most categories, there is one category which doesn't work (doesn't yield results) for some reason. Any way I could debug this and figure out what [11:09:46] is going wrong? [11:22:20] This is the query I use: {{#ask: [[Category:MY_CATEGORY_NAME]]}} [11:26:33] ckarageorgkaneen: I'm not sure if this is really the best place for that question, according to the documentation of semantic wiki, they have a separate channel #semantic-mediawiki [11:26:41] I would consider posting your question there as well [11:27:12] there's also a mailinglist https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Contact [11:27:24] Bert_2: Whoops, must have missed it. Thanks! [11:27:53] np, it's mostly just that semantic mediawiki is very different, so I'm not sure if anyone here even has the needed experience [22:21:24] Hey all, I am creating a template for the first time, and have noticed, while attempting to use the template, unused fields are a thing. How does one create these unused fields? Currently it states there are no unused fields. [22:23:14] it states? [22:24:11] Yeah. [22:24:53] Are you somehow confused by that? [22:25:02] Yes [22:25:07] What is stating there are no unused fields? [22:25:29] When using the template, it states there are no unused fields. [22:25:34] What is it? [22:25:40] What is what? [22:25:43] it [22:25:45] "it states" [22:25:47] what is it? [22:25:51] mediawiki dude. [22:26:22] Specifically the page editor while inserting a template. [22:27:16] So you're using Visual Editor? [22:27:26] Correct. [22:27:44] I am attempting to make this as easy as possible for the IT Tech's who will be using the wiki. [22:27:58] Sure, but it's also fairly important information for us to try and help ;) [22:28:05] If the unused fields are what I think they are, they will be super handy. [22:28:15] Like, I've literally never inserted a template with VE... And I've been using MW for a good 15 years at this point [22:28:35] I've never done this either. [22:29:35] Sorry about not being specific enough I suppose I don't know enough yet to understand how specific I need to be. Lol. [22:29:42] Haha [22:29:49] Like, my confusion is I'd never seen MW use that string... [22:30:04] And we get people coming in asking about weird and wonderful extensions that most of us have never used [22:30:22] Ahh yeah. Those weirdo's. [22:31:33] Ok, so where the message for that string is used... [22:31:50] Create a template. [22:31:58] No, sorry, I mean I'm looking at the code P [22:31:59] :P [22:32:01] * Handle media query response events. [22:32:04] Then edit a different existing normal page. [22:32:12] Oh. [22:32:14] I see. [22:32:27] I have another question for you... [22:32:41] Is it possible to have the page name be a template? [22:33:40] For instance, if we have a server name server1 and want to rename all instances of that server1 name to location-server1, could you make that a template and then just rename the template and have everything update including the article name? [22:38:43] For your first question... I think it's related to Extension:TemplateData [22:38:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:TemplateData [22:38:56] Reedy: wanna +2 the patch to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268641 & deal with the task if I commit said patch to gerrit? :) [22:42:14] Reedy, I think that is the answer to my question. I am going to give it a try. I will let you know what I find out. [22:42:22] Plazey: For your second question... You could have a template called {{server1}} that contains nothing more than the text server one... And then when the name changes, turn Template:server1 into a redirect to Template:location-server1, which contains location-server [22:43:41] Sweet. That is good to know. [22:44:11] you can do redirect chains and stuff too