[00:09:25] Hi, There is any good recommendation for editing wikicode with syntax highlighting? ATM for complex code I'm using notepad++ with HTM highlight [00:09:27] HTML [00:19:31] on-wiki or off-wiki? [00:20:26] for on-wiki, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikEd [00:23:36] Best will be on-wiki, but the plugins I've tried does not support RTL lang + collide with other plugins (such as auto-complete of pages) [00:24:25] But I'm not sure ragrding this one, I [00:24:30] I'll try [00:24:54] why syntax highlighting instead of a visual editor (WYSIWYG) though? out of curiousity [00:31:24] I think I've tried that before sometime (Can't remember what went wrong) [00:32:21] it's a lot easier on 1.35 now :) [00:32:25] before setting it up was a gigantic pain [00:32:27] now it just works [00:34:03] Might be because I have only "cronjob" access (no cli), So it can be related to the installation. And yea after I'll move to 1.35 that indeed worth a re-try [00:44:47] WikiEd has any assumptions on the skin? [00:45:36] + Looks like it doesn't work with LinkSuggest [00:46:25] But the syntax highlight looks great! [00:47:20] works best in vector probably [03:30:23] I've basically needed to completely rewrite the file uploading stack to get this to work :/ [03:50:03] It's not really a surprise [03:50:15] Though, did anyone point you to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AWS ? [05:09:57] Reedy, yes, I'm using it right now [05:11:06] unfortunately its still tied around how mediawiki handles uploads, which means instead of doing things like reading metadata from the S3 headers to get things like mimetype, it does a whole back and forth of downloading the whole file and analyzing it [05:11:41] not to mention chunked uploads are completely worthless, since mediawiki will upload each chunk to aws, then download all the chunks again, merge them, and then upload the combined file back to s3 [05:14:36] it's not the extension's fault though, mediawiki doesn't tell it that it's doing a chunked upload [08:39:46] Reedy: in case you were curious, the issue was that $wgResourceBasePath was being defined from $wgScriptPath, before $wgScriptPath was defined [08:39:58] or rather, before it was set to "" [12:41:38] hi [12:42:01] can anyone point to a doc that explains how to manage product document version with mediawiki? [14:30:12] Well, I figured out my slowdown problem, turns out s3fs has a bit of a CPU hogging tendency once your bucket gets big enough. On a related note, the instructions in the manual for profiling didn't work for me even after I moved the settings to LocalSettings instead of StartProfiler :( [17:18:15] be https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/vr2VXWKK/other%20side%20of%20the%20page.PNG [17:19:16] when i used a skin it changed it to another side of the page and now i need to change it back but want to change it back to the right side of the page anyone Know's how i can change all of the pages with that template back to the right side of the page without having to do every page [18:40:18] duesen: TimStarling: to think about w.r.t. requiring hard-deprecation or not: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T266502#6648828 - wfMemcKey deprecated for a long time but never hard. Now an issue due to incompatible BagOStuff objects and incorrectly-formatted keys etc. [18:40:31] curious what your thoughts are on this one [19:20:10] Krinkle: for callable code, hard deprecation should be required. [19:20:12] also, it should not be perceived as normal to see deprecated code hang around. [19:21:00] I fear that the fact that we have been slow about moving from soft to hard deprecation has led to the impression that soft deprecation doesn't mean much. [19:21:26] so we should be much quicker about removing usages and going to hard deprecation. [19:53:13] duesen: yeah, soft-depr I think should really only be used mid-release while pathces are being written/landed for prod. [19:53:40] right [19:53:41] I wouldn't midn having hard-deprecated methods remain in multiple releases [19:53:57] yea, i have been thinkming about softening the language in that regard [19:54:00] much better than soft-deprecarted methods for several releaes, whch don't help to discover/distribute migration work [19:55:08] could always just add medium depreciation if you're looking for a better descriptor :P [19:55:34] Ulfr: how about a fractal deprecation system, that gets closer and closer to actual removal, but never quite gets there? [19:56:00] that means I wouldn't get three hours of database scripts as a nice surprise during an update! [19:56:02] I think [19:56:26] wait, no. that's table deprecation. totally different [19:57:05] It is... [19:57:25] tables aren't public APIs currently [19:57:40] Yeah, I'm still traumatized from going 1.31 to 1.34 and having the whole actor migration being done in one downtime -.-; [19:58:19] but on a I forgot to ask this and probably should note, are there any viable alternatives to s3fs for syncing uploads to an s3 upload repo? I'm honestly thinking about running a cron every 15 minutes that just uploads and removes the files that were uploaded [19:58:30] not ideal, but s3fs is taking up about 80% CPU doing I have no idea what [20:55:33] Krinkle: I further streamlined the "Removal" section, and inlined the exceptions. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:DKinzler_(WMF)/Stable_interface_policy#Removal [22:19:58] hello [22:25:49] !help i need that resolve this issue https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263923 [22:25:49] There are a lot of topics you could be asking about. Besides, this bot is mostly for experienced users to quickly answer common questions. Please just ask your question and wait patiently, as the best person to answer your question may be away for a few minutes or longer. If you're looking for help pages, we moved that to !helpfor. [22:26:50] Nikerabbit i need that resolve this issue https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263923 [23:24:41] RodneyAraujo: it's not very clear why you consider that to be a bug (for instance, the infobox may not exist on the Spanish Wikipedia) [23:25:25] Maybe it's obvious to you (and to some of the devs who know what you're talking about), but it's not necessarily obvious for everyone reading. [23:25:49] yes, it is a bug [23:33:14] Nemo_bis, and recently i have a issue that after adding parameters to a template, the template content is not saved, but shows "saved 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 minutes ago". only the translation text is saved