[03:06:50] Can anyone recommend ways to do either or both of these things?  (1) Suggest some options for starter content (boilerplate?) when a user creates a new page.  (2) Add some instructions above the editor reminding people about, for example, commonly-used templates whenever a page is created or edited. [03:10:17] darinwick: there is a mediawiki: message for (2) [03:10:35] actually, you could use a custom one dependign on the namespace / page title [03:11:15] for (1) it is possible to preload an article [03:36:04] Platonides: Thanks!  I found the Mediawiki:Newarticletext message for adding a new article.  I'm not sure how to look for the equivalent when someone is editing an article - it seems to be blank by default.  Any idea what it is, or how I should go about finding it? [03:39:06] Never mind; just learned about &uselang=qqx.  What a neat tool! [03:50:49] I was able to make InputBox provide search suggestions by using the following code (as was suggested at stackoverflow), however the search box now ignores the width settings, i.e. it now has the width of the whole screen. How do I fix that? [03:51:09] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/v7CXOQNy/ [06:52:54] I received a notification earlier today there had been multiple failed attempts to log in to my account. [06:53:39] Will it be way too crazy to propose with this notification, we also provide the info which IP was trying to log in to my account? [07:14:36] acagastya: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174388 [07:21:10] Good. [16:06:41] Though, RhinosF1, is there any calculation of how to find the approximate geo-location based on some calculation of an IPv4? [16:07:56] It's certainly not caclulateable, but you can look it up [16:08:08] Depending on the dataset, it might be completely wrong [16:08:55] https://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip-demo being one such dataset [16:19:25] Well, they must be forming a database based on some calculation or information, no? [16:19:46] as above, yes, there are datasets [16:20:00] but there's literally no way to calculate it [16:20:32] Um, let me rephrase -- what is the source of such databases? [16:22:45] https://whatismyipaddress.com/geolocation [16:23:10] many of them are usually data from various sources [16:24:20] google will, for example map SSIDs/wifi networks to IP addresses to get a location (which can lead to fun results at conferences where they move the wifi kit around the world) [16:26:40] IP based location often puts me in london [16:27:41] Apple's warning for login often finds nearby metro city for me -- but indeed a non-paid up-to-date-DB might come handy. [16:28:01] nearly everyone on my ISP gets geolocated to the same small town [16:28:04] Maxmind is fairly ok [16:28:05] I used to use ip2country.info but that seems to have been acquired by other company. [16:28:20] Wikimedia do have access to Maxmind stuff... But it's not really been integrated into the login notify stuff (yet) [16:28:50] Paid, obviously? [16:29:26] yeah [16:29:50] I just tested my free copy of maxmind and it got my location down to the city for ipv4 and the next city on (by about 500m if that) for ipv6 [16:30:22] It would be outdated every few months, right? [16:31:18] I'd be surprised if this db has been updated in months [16:31:47] How did you get a free copy? [16:31:59] In a lot of cases, it doesn't matter too much if the IP says you're in location X or 50 miles away [16:32:10] https://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/geoip2/geolite2/ etc is free [16:32:21] for some reason I'm always geolocated to the small(ish) city right next to the where I live (which is Helsinki, the capital and largest city in Finland) [16:32:47] Probably what Reedy said [16:32:53] I didn't get the api key [16:33:38] Majavah: Your ISP based there by any chance? [16:34:12] It tells me to signup. [16:34:39] Need to use a fake email now. [16:35:03] Reedy: nope, they're based in Helsinki too [16:35:08] Yeah you need an account [16:40:21] Argh -- it doesn’t allow these disposable emails. [16:41:15] Probably a reason [16:43:42] I need a disposable domain, in that case. And a disposable VPS. Just to get this :P [20:33:16] DannyS712: if I weren't about to sleep, id say UBN - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281072#7032249 - mass message is gonna impact quite a decent amount very quickly. /me more wonders how it only just got noticed as I'm surprised no one has used it since the last train if that's the cause but again sleep time