[01:35:14] <landau[m]>	 hi; i'm not familiar with mediawiki's contributing process. i made a pull request at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/examples/+/687529 . how to ensure that it has been seen by the repo maintainer?
[09:04:36] <Reception123>	 does anyone have any idea why the audio player doesn't work here: https://tep.wiki/wiki/Peregrinia ?
[09:04:45] <Reception123>	 it just links to the file instead of showing a player 
[09:20:12] <Nemo_bis>	 Reception123: do you mean "File:PGA Anthem.ogg"?
[09:20:37] <Nemo_bis>	 (Urgh cc-by-nc-sa.)
[09:21:12] <Reception123>	 Nemo_bis: yeah, that one
[09:21:42] <Nemo_bis>	 (Also that cookie banner is not needed, there are no cookies here except a "sessionId" cookie which comes for free, being necessary for authentication.)
[09:22:00] <Reception123>	 oh
[09:22:20] <Nemo_bis>	 Reception123: there's no OggHandler in https://tep.wiki/wiki/Special:Version , what would you expect to load a player?
[09:23:07] <Nemo_bis>	 (Matomo isn't setting any cookie either, AFAICT.)
[09:23:49] <Reception123>	 oh, I see, thanks 
[09:49:41] <buovjaga>	 In the sidebar we have link items that are pointing to MediaWiki pages. However, localising these MediaWiki pages does not affect the link. So if I have a Ukrainian translation MediaWiki:Getinvolved/uk with the contents Get Involved/uk it just use the English page
[14:03:25] <GeorgiosMavropal>	 Hello
[14:04:59] <GeorgiosMavropal>	 Since the Vector skin is trying to become more modern by making it narrower and more mobile friendly, why doesn't MW just replace it and make MinervaNeue the default skin? It's already the default for mobile, it's responsive and modern looking
[14:05:28] <GeorgiosMavropal>	 It just needs a dark mode and it's good to go as default
[14:10:35] <Vulpix>	 GeorgiosMavropal: The default for what? When you install MediaWiki you get the choice of what skins to install. Vector is not even mandatory
[14:10:56] <GeorgiosMavropal>	 default for desktop as well
[14:12:22] <Vulpix>	 Each install decides what's the default skin. If you only install MinervaNeue, it's the default for everything
[14:12:47] <Vulpix>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultSkin
[14:13:38] <GeorgiosMavropal>	 Not sure if you read my question correctly Vulpix. The reform of Vector is basically trying to turn it into MinervaNeue. I'm just proposing to save people effort and just use MinervaNeue instead of wasting precious development time
[14:13:54] <GeorgiosMavropal>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Features
[14:14:21] <Vulpix>	 Ah, so you're taking about Wikipedia or Wikimedia, and not MediaWiki
[14:15:18] <GeorgiosMavropal>	 Well the default skin of MediaWiki IS Vector for desktop
[14:15:34] <Vulpix>	 It may happen that readers actually want an appearance more similar to Vector instead of MinervaNeue for desktop
[14:16:01] <GeorgiosMavropal>	 Okay, well we're going in circles and my points are not understood. Thanks for your time.
[14:17:50] <Vulpix>	 You miss the point that Vector or MinervaNeue are not required to be installed at all... I'm not sure if the "default of default" skin is currently relevant when you can choose which skins are going to be installed
[16:39:40] <legoktm>	 buovjaga: have you made the links use Special:MyLanguage?
[17:55:21] <aconite33>	 Running the latest version Mediawiki, 1.35.2. I upgraded and now I'm getting an error with LinkRender::makeKnownLink()
[17:55:37] <aconite33>	 This seems to be an internal code (Not an extension)
[17:56:24] <aconite33>	 I can't seem to recover from this 500 error in order to continue to use MediaWiki
[18:08:09] <aconite33>	 nevermind, totally WAS an extension :D