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hi [00:38:31]

are namespaces the right choice for grouping a very large topic on my wiki? [00:38:43]

it doesn't seem quite right to me [00:39:28]

maybe simply category is all i need [00:41:36]

do i need to make my own disambiguation template? [00:41:39]

or is there one built in? [00:53:02] k-man: no built-in templates, no. what features do you want this group of pages to have?? [00:53:22] that would help in understanding whether a namespace or category is better [00:54:22] most MediaWiki features allow you to differentiate by namespace, like search, recentchanges, whatlinkshere, and so on [00:54:55] the main reason to not use a namespace is if you don't want these groups to pollute the listing of namespaces on those pages [01:11:13]

thanks legoktm [01:11:20]

I'll try without a namespace for a while [01:30:55] I think the thing I'll miss most about freenode, is no more SF author themed MOTD [12:49:19] I am getting a "Forbidden" error on my wiki when I try to navage to https://placeholderdormain/w/index.php [12:52:17] I tried to use lets encyt to set up the ssl, localsetting config is here: https://pastebin.com/zrzrApXx and the site apche config is here: https://pastebin.com/FRzdxiih [12:52:18] BurningPrincess: your web servers error.log is the right place to look at, but usually that is caused by incorrect file system permissions for mediawikiwiki files [12:52:41] I tried chmod 755 index.php and localsettings.php [12:53:06] did you look at error.log? [12:53:44] Where it is? I need the file path [12:54:12] likely /var/log/apache2/error.log [12:54:58] Logs: https://pastebin.com/kVaHZHNL [12:55:57] it says "client denied by server configuration" [12:57:20] put that into a search engine, you'll find this apache documentation page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HTTPD/ClientDeniedByServerConfiguration [12:57:43] you're missing a config piece that allows apache2 to read those files [12:59:48] Just granted to all, now it is 404'ing [13:00:01] Wiki files are there [13:03:15] what's your full path to index.php on disk and what url are you using? [13:04:02] Hm var/www/html/w/index.php and trying to acess https://taerel.com/w/ [13:05:14] does https://taerel.com/w/index.php work? [13:05:26] No [13:06:28] It does not work [13:06:52] Wait, maybe it is a dormain problem [13:07:05] Its that or I made a mess somewhere [13:21:48] So, what do you want logs wise and stuff I can fix? [14:17:33] BurningPrincess: did you manage to fix it? [14:17:45] No, just going to wipe and restart] [14:17:52] I can't do it on my own# [14:18:36] BurningPrincess: I'm not sure what you see on your end, but...when I try to go to https://taerel.com/w/, I see https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SnVMmB0W/image.png [14:18:53] this indicates taerel.com might not go to your server [14:19:07] I think I will pick another dormain [14:19:16] That is what I saw] [14:19:32] BurningPrincess: do you currently own the domain taerel.com? [14:19:40] Yes [14:20:05] BurningPrincess: do you have access to its DNS records? [14:20:29] I tried to set ti so A goes to IP [14:20:43] what's your server's IP, please? [14:23:02] IDK it is offline while I fix it [14:23:12] Well, its online but I broke something [14:24:16] could you answer the IP question first? 🙂 [14:24:32] if the domain doesn't point to your server, there's no point in trying to fix anything in that serer until the domain is fixed [14:25:59] http://168.235.80.115/w/index.php [14:26:31] that looks much better [14:26:57] the domain currently points to 208.91.197.39 instead https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PAAaTebF/ [14:27:17] so i suggest to double check the DNS records are right [14:30:57] Was unable to install php stuff, starting over [14:31:56] the PHP did work https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jaK0flGd/image.png [14:32:07] this is an output of the PHP file [14:32:09] *****! [14:32:20] I am getting very angey [14:32:26] i understand [14:32:39] once you get back to this stage, let me know, I'll try to give you step by step instruction [14:32:53] So sweet [14:45:02] I can't even set up ssh [14:48:19] Ok, I am in the server urbanecm [14:48:56] BurningPrincess: is the IP the same? [14:49:14] 168.235.82.172 [14:50:09] BurningPrincess: did you set up a webserver? [14:50:16] Not yey [14:50:24] please do it [14:50:32] get it to the state as at https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jaK0flGd/image.png [14:56:57] Package names for php 8.0 for what mw needs? [14:59:06] urbanecm [14:59:38] BurningPrincess: I'm going to point you to the docs instead [14:59:53] That does not have 8.0 php stuff [15:00:04] it has a list of php extensions [15:00:10] they can be named differently in different distros [15:00:59] on my system, php 8.0 extensions are called php8.0- [15:01:02] but that can be different on yours [15:05:25] 168.235.82.172 [15:05:47] http://168.235.82.172/w/ just need two bits [15:05:54] http://168.235.82.172/w/ still says you didn't install two extensions [15:06:40] I have them on the sevrert [15:07:09] try to restart the webserver [15:07:19] it might need a restart to pick them up [15:08:25] Wiki is ready [15:08:47] cool, so press the link and follow the instructions :) [15:10:37] Going to take a small break to calm down [15:14:36] it's supposed to be easy at this point BurningPrincess :) [15:15:28] Oh I forgot to set up dbs in mysql [15:16:42] let me know if i can help [15:24:10] Wiki up [15:24:38] congrats BurningPrincess :) [15:24:55] Could you help me set up ssl with let's encyt and the dormain? [15:26:02] sure, but first, let me ask something: what did you do before to do it? [15:26:26] Messed around with settings in a dormain regusrer's GUI [15:26:41] Em, "A records" or something [15:27:04] you need to set an A record to point to the server IP [15:28:40] This what I did: https://imgbb.com/ [15:41:52] urbanecm see the imagebb link [15:42:10] this is a link to their homepage [15:42:15] not to an image [15:42:34] Oh let me get an imkage [15:42:51] https://ibb.co/F6cZrPF [15:46:19] I might end up having to use another dormain as the register was having problems with verfiy emails [16:06:31] BurningPrincess: this is OK, but it's for www.taerel.com, not taerel.com [16:06:39] you need to add a record for taerel.com as well [16:07:01] (not familiar with that registrator, but leaving an empty "refers to" might work) [16:30:06] Ah basic paghe [16:31:36] I think I might need to go with another dormauun proveder [16:39:44] Oh, okay, so dorman works, but goes to the ip of the wiki urbanecm [17:56:13] Ah done it [18:00:11] Well kinda