[00:01:54] YuviPanda, good point. [00:02:02] Maybe Labs-to-Prod? [00:02:17] We can call it Zombo.com [00:02:20] probably not [00:02:33] * halfak goes to Zombo.com [00:02:37] What is this [00:02:43] Everything is possible [00:02:45] in Zombo.com [00:02:49] loool [00:03:02] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombo.com [00:03:35] > Video game producer Bill Roper[3] and artist Dave Rowntree have each listed Zombo as their favorite website; Rowntree explains, "I think [zombo.com] paraphrases the net. Promises you the earth but delivers a bit of animation with a scratchy soundtrack!" [00:03:35] El búfer 3 está vacío. [00:04:10] AsimovBot, wat [00:04:10] 04Error: Command “wat” not recognized. Please review and correct what you’ve written. [00:04:50] YuviPanda, any ideas for a better name? "Productization" [00:04:58] Maybe I should just get into the turf battle. [00:05:02] Can't own the name "Service" [00:05:25] I personally don't think there's much to gain from that battle and energy to lose [00:06:02] most specific one is 'Research Productization' [00:07:09] Fair point. [00:07:21] Seems like the WDQS falls into this camp though too. [00:07:56] WDQS was different in that you needed a lot more institutional buy in [00:07:59] before you could even start [00:08:08] since blazegraph vs many other graph db solutions [00:08:09] was a big deal [00:08:14] and would need lots of hardware [00:08:26] that's untrue for most research stuff [00:08:30] so far [00:08:32] at least [00:09:35] There was a request I filed a long time ago for hardware to support the online productivity measurements I'd like to host. [00:09:52] But I gave up because it sounded hard to do on labs. [00:09:56] Rather, I put it on the backburner. [00:09:59] * YuviPanda nods [00:10:08] Just finished up a critical threshold in the research side. [00:10:14] See last Showcase :) [00:10:28] OK. I think that I'm convinced that I'll just leave this list where it is right now. [00:10:43] So, Research#Productionization [00:11:25] * YuviPanda nods [00:11:40] Thanks for thinking about it with me :) [00:11:50] Amir1_, done with meeting and post meeting stuff. [00:12:40] great [00:12:42] one min [00:12:54] I'm about to finish this patch regarding ORES etxension [00:14:20] is it okay? [00:15:00] Sure. I'll be around for another 30 minutes at least [00:17:40] It needs much more work [01:10:56] halfak: Done! http://bl.ocks.org/ResidentMario/793fe40d743b98d05dea [01:14:40] Are you going to be holding a meeting this week? etherpad says revscoring is due for one tomorrow, but it sounds like everyone is busy writing reports [01:45:14] (03PS1) 10Ladsgroup: [WIP] Let people choose a threshold [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265676 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122684) [02:18:18] violetto: hey, one request, your elements.html is hosted in a http server and it's no accessible via SSL, per SSL protocols I can't use it, Can you put it somewhere else? [02:18:41] like labs, cdnjs, etc. [02:18:43] github [02:20:02] thanks :) [02:43:25] afk for a while [03:58:42] Amir1: hey! [03:58:48] yup let me get you a link [03:59:30] https://wikimedia-ui.wmflabs.org/MW/elements.html [12:12:41] (03PS2) 10Ladsgroup: [WIP] Let people choose a threshold [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265676 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122684) [14:57:53] o/ [15:21:54] o/ halfak :) [15:22:01] o/ Amir1 [15:22:11] working on that JSON--> HTML mockup :) [15:22:19] awesome [15:22:22] While I wait for a new frwiki article quality model to build [15:22:37] I'm really stuck on where we have lost our fitness here. [15:22:48] I'm starting to wonder if the test set we ran with last time was a fluke. [15:23:14] I hope I can help [15:23:34] I was working ORES extension [15:23:42] It's going to be really cool [15:23:56] Did you see lydia's tweet about it? [15:23:58] :) [15:24:02] yeah [15:24:09] I told her about our work [15:24:18] she liked it and said let's tweet it [15:24:27] http://mw-revscoring.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [15:24:47] go your preferences, section watchlist and change value of ORES section [15:25:24] (note: I need to add system messages) [15:25:39] (and then number of edits with "r" flag will change) [15:26:17] halfak: and number of those values, and the values itself are easily configurable in LocalSettings.php [15:28:30] halfak: oh I made a PR in ORES, We finished redesign with violetto :) [15:28:42] \o/ [15:28:49] will try to get that tested before the meetings start. [15:30:52] Amir1, not seeing anything new in watchlist [15:31:07] watch the main page [15:31:10] :D [15:31:13] Did that. [15:31:18] Looking in preferences now [15:31:34] change the number to 30 days [15:31:46] I don't think I've made edit in the wiki in the last week [15:32:04] halfak: have you seen the ores section? [15:32:08] So, I see edits here, but I don't see ORES section [15:32:08] in preferences [15:32:28] Oh! I see under Recent changes [15:32:39] yeah recent changes is the correct part [15:33:26] So, RecentChanges has "hide good edits" and Watchlist has "show good edits" [15:33:36] Shouldn't they both have the "hide" option? [15:34:00] Oh! I see that the "r" isn't rolling up too. [15:35:26] You know, I think I'm going to declare victory on the frwiki article quality model. The AUC of each quality class is actuallty *higher* than it was before. [15:36:01] I will work on that :) [15:36:04] It's just that the overall accuracy has fallen slightly. [15:36:08] \o/ [15:36:25] * halfak does some cleanup in prep for committing. [15:36:57] btw I want to get test data of fa.wp but I couldn't find datasets [15:44:43] Amir1, look in the makefile for editquality and fawiki. [15:44:54] You'll see a URL for a quarry query that gathers the sample [15:45:06] I see [15:45:08] thanks :) [15:45:12] :) [15:45:38] https://github.com/wiki-ai/ores/pull/119 [15:50:06] Amir1, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ORES.Visual_JSON_mockup.svg [15:50:38] Note the color coding. [15:50:53] I'll go get this posted on the talk page of Revscoring [15:51:09] great [15:53:35] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Revision_scoring_as_a_service#ORES_UI_visual_JSON_representation [15:54:02] * halfak creates a back-dated task on the board [15:55:01] * halfak races to get his frwiki work done so he can look at ORES PR [15:55:05] 5 minutes to meeting [15:55:06] gogooggo [15:56:20] is it 5 mins to the meeting? [15:56:27] yup [15:56:39] are you sure? [15:56:43] Once the meetings start I'll suddenly become less productive :( [15:56:47] Oh! Not our meeting [15:56:53] Just my first meeting of the day. [15:57:00] oh okay [15:57:03] Speaking of our meeting, we never moved it. [15:57:14] yeah :D [15:57:25] Do it for the next week [15:57:31] Do you want to meet at the regular time, meet earlier or wait until Saturday for the sync? [15:58:27] one hour earlier would be awesome [15:58:29] if possible [15:59:34] Ack! Can't do that today. I have one of these terrifying "QUARTERLY REVIEWS" today. [15:59:41] Where I get to say that we didn't meet our goal for revscoring. [15:59:47] btw halfak what is priority of this UI? Is it okay if I start working on it in Monday (or afterwords) [16:00:06] Because goals are stupid and it doesn't matter that we did all sorts of awesome stuff and prioritized appropriately. [16:00:11] why halfak ? [16:00:20] Amir1, totally OK to delay UI work [16:00:21] Haven't we reached our goals? [16:00:41] The one goal was "Get ORES extension deployed as a beta feature" [16:00:42] which goal exactly [16:00:50] oh [16:01:03] with no paid staff what they would expect? [16:01:42] Yup. QUarterly goals don't work well with "do what you can with what you have" [16:01:53] btw you merged the old UI but ores.wmflabs.org/ui/ gives 404 [16:02:18] Amir1, haven't deployed anything new yet [16:02:35] as I thought [16:02:42] if you merge the new one [16:02:46] and deploy it [16:02:51] that would be great [16:04:57] fun fact, in the makefile in edit quality we have link to quarry for all languages except Persian [16:05:02] it's my lucky day I guess [16:05:23] Amir1, how did that happen!? [16:05:24] Woops [16:06:33] Oh! Ohhhh! Yeah. Persian is one of the ones that is based on the Wiki labels sample [16:06:42] So there should be a request to labels.wmflabs.org [16:09:30] http://labels.wmflabs.org/campaigns/fawiki/6/ [16:44:17] (03PS1) 10IoannisKydonis: Clarification in documentation of ores-damaging-filter [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265754 [17:21:33] wiki-ai/revscoring#491 (gradient_boosting - 7996f57 : halfak): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/revscoring/builds/104134389 [17:21:45] \o/ [17:24:20] wiki-ai/revscoring#493 (gradient_boosting - f11c37d : halfak): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/revscoring/builds/104134966 [17:24:38] halfak (or other ORES folks): so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HaeB/vector.js stopped working for me some time ago; what's the current way of enabling revscoring on enwiki? [17:26:35] Hey HaeB! Unrelated, but since you're here, I hope you saw the Signpost views number crunch that I did a couple of weeks back [17:26:56] HaeB: Hey, have you tried common.js? [17:28:14] HaeB, that's the Right(TM) way to import as far as I know [17:28:39] If you're going that route, isn't it usually best to try to place things in the meta global.js first? [17:28:50] :P [17:29:44] HaeB, it seems to be working for me. Here's my meta global.js: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:EpochFail/global.js [17:39:52] i'm pretty sure that using the local vector.js was the recommendation at the time, and it worked for me ;) i'm mainly interested in using it on enwiki, so will try commons.js there first. thank everyone! [17:54:25] wiki-ai/revscoring#495 (gradient_boosting - f8a9d00 : halfak): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/revscoring/builds/104138317 [17:54:59] shuddup travis [18:29:19] oh halfak I forgot to say [18:29:23] this is just in [18:29:49] halfak: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124443 [18:31:19] afk for dinner [18:31:24] be back soon-ish [18:52:57] back [19:19:12] halfak: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120922 [19:19:13] \o/ [19:41:35] (03CR) 10Nemo bis: [C: 04-1] ""show" and "hide", if untranslatable, should be in quotes or or whatever" [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265754 (owner: 10IoannisKydonis) [19:45:26] Just stopped to say hi to all. [19:46:05] Gotta run soon, but wanted to see if anything is going on. :) [19:46:47] (03PS2) 10IoannisKydonis: Clarification in documentation of ores-damaging-filter [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265754 [19:49:50] Hey, YuviPanda you mentioned yesterday that there was an announcement for labs when doing reboots and stuff. Where can I sign somewhere to this mailing list if one exists? [19:54:52] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-announce I'm guessing [19:55:10] Yeah: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/labs-announce/2016-January/000085.html [20:04:49] Tnx a lot. [20:10:24] yw :) [20:10:35] I oughta subscribe myself [20:11:33] I just did. Will go now. Bye. [20:14:36] * halfak gets back and starts clicking Amir1 links [20:15:26] \o/ security review win! [20:24:54] halfak: also a database review has been done by hoo [20:25:08] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124443 [20:25:13] I will work on it [20:25:15] and fix it [20:26:21] Amir1, what does this mean?: ores_classification.ores_rev should be unsigned to match rev_id [20:27:46] halfak: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3895692/what-does-unsigned-in-mysql-mean-and-when-to-use-it [20:28:08] Oh! Unsigned integers! [20:28:17] :) [20:28:21] Save a bit [20:28:26] literally [20:28:29] :D [20:28:37] * halfak runs to next meeting [20:28:45] if it gets boring, I'll review the ORES ui stuff. [20:29:04] :))) [20:51:23] halfak: if you're bored check telegram [20:53:54] (03PS3) 10Ladsgroup: Let people choose a threshold [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265676 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122684) [20:54:49] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Let people choose a threshold [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265676 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122684) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [20:56:23] (03PS4) 10Ladsgroup: Let people choose a threshold [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265676 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122684) [21:06:12] (03CR) 10Nemo bis: "Note to self: used for GCI task" [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265754 (owner: 10IoannisKydonis) [21:06:45] (03CR) 10Nemo bis: [C: 031] Clarification in documentation of ores-damaging-filter [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265754 (owner: 10IoannisKydonis) [22:52:06] (03CR) 10Legoktm: [C: 032] Clarification in documentation of ores-damaging-filter [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265754 (owner: 10IoannisKydonis) [23:04:36] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Clarification in documentation of ores-damaging-filter [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/265754 (owner: 10IoannisKydonis)