[13:59:01] o/ [14:00:30] here :) [14:00:53] Hey! Just finishing my morning coffee. [14:00:59] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/281940 [14:01:03] I just made this [14:01:27] harakiri? [14:02:35] it's a timeout option [14:02:38] for worker [14:03:11] Gotcha. [14:06:33] Looks like bwds is done on nowiki. I just pinged Galar71 [14:06:55] yeah [14:07:22] Scientology was in the results. Made me giggle [14:09:01] lol [14:35:47] Amir1, can you give me the set of patches you'd like me to bring up at SOS? [14:36:18] halfak: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/278841/ [14:37:24] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/279925 [14:38:08] these two are in mediawiki/core [14:38:42] Should we add Krinkle as a reviewer on the second one? [14:38:58] these patches are in puppet: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/281940 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/281228 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/281161 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/280403 [14:39:08] yeah [14:39:21] let me do git blame on enhanced changes list [14:41:35] oh no, I should do on contributions [14:43:17] Awesome. Thanks for helping me get organized :) [14:43:35] Can you remind me of the address of ORES in beta labs? [14:44:17] ores-beta.wmflabs.org [14:44:27] thanks :) [14:45:57] OK. See line 84 in https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Scrum-of-Scrums [14:47:35] \o/ [14:53:31] halfak: I changed line 96 a little bit [14:55:40] My name is still Batman :)))) [14:59:05] I've got a bubble wrap but it's really difficult to blow them, it's like torture [14:59:51] some study shows bubble wraps causes release of endrophine in brain [15:05:43] ^ bubble wrap? [15:05:59] You're popping the little bubbles and it's torture? [15:06:19] Isn't popping them supposed to be awesome? [15:59:53] Amir1, saw your notes re. uwsgi. Thanks! [16:00:38] Also, I'll note that 5462104 msecs is 5462 seconds! not 546 seconds -- which would also be absurd. [16:23:55] :))) [16:30:15] harakiri makes the worker not take more than 30 seconds [17:24:33] anyone? [17:25:40] Just curious if someone is using the label tool in w:es [17:25:51] This tool https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquetando [17:28:02] o/ Oscar_ [17:28:34] Having trouble with the label tool? [17:29:40] It looks like 2 people have used the tool so far. We need a local spanish speaker to help announce the labeling campaign and provide status updates. [17:30:14] Hi :) [17:30:29] o/ codezee [17:30:30] :) [17:30:32] Not really, just simply curiosity [17:30:51] How? (If I might ask) [17:30:54] who* [17:31:12] Who? Let me look :) [17:33:18] Salvador alc & Patricio.lorente [17:34:23] About the spanish speaker, what exactly do you need? [17:40:41] Sorry for the bunch of questions :) [17:58:03] halfak: o/ [17:58:46] I'm trying to setup stopwords for running tests in revscoring [17:58:53] ran into https://dpaste.de/4v0M [17:58:54] Oscar_, I need someone to announce the campaign and try to build up a set of volunteers to work on it. [17:59:09] I don't know why its failing [17:59:34] Oscar_, I'd like to get really good vandalism/goodfaith prediction models set up for Spanish Wikipedia and completing this labeling campaign is necessary to get that done. [17:59:36] I need to run the tests so that I can test the hindi regexes and commit [17:59:47] * halfak looks at codezee's errors [18:00:15] Hmm. Never seen that before. [18:00:36] codezee, Could it be that your machine didn't have internet access at the time? [18:01:01] halfak: I'm doing that again right now and same [18:02:19] Interesting. Might be that a server is down [18:02:30] Starting a meeting now. Should be back in 30 minutes [18:02:44] ok :) I'm here [18:28:54] halfak: I am a Spanish speaker [18:29:39] Platonides, \o/ would you be interested in helping us get the eswiki labeling campaign finished? [18:32:12] I have been lurking for some time [18:32:22] but I don't really knwo how this works [18:33:51] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131963 [18:34:25] Platonides, essentially, we can deploy a prediction model that we train on "reverted" edits without any help. That model is live right now for eswiki and it seems to work OK. [18:34:55] However, there's a lot of reasons that it is better to have a prediction model trained off of explicit labels (is damaging, is goodfaith). [18:35:10] There's also the potential to get into feedback loops if we keep training on "reverted" edits. [18:35:22] So we'd like to get this labeling campaign done in every wiki that we can. [18:35:26] See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131963 [18:35:50] so.. what do you need? [18:42:36] I need someone to advertise the project. To recruit people to do the labeling and provide status updates so that contributors know that they are making progress. [18:42:42] Platonides, [18:42:56] codezee, will look again at nltk stuff in a minute [18:43:11] Actually, you should be able to run your tests on hindi without nltk stuff. [18:43:12] thanks! [18:43:41] Try this from the base revscoring directory: nosetests revscoring/languages/tests/test_hindi.py [18:43:46] That should run only your test file. [18:44:35] Platonides, unrelately, I'm having some issues getting an email through to wikitech-l. I see you are an admin. [18:45:28] ok I'll run the tests once I install enchant hi dictionary [18:45:33] :) [18:48:40] halfak: what's the problem with the email? [18:48:46] is mailman retaining it? [18:49:25] It didn't go through. I didn't get a warning, notice, or anything that I can find in response. Email was titled "Updates to ORES service & BREAKING CHANGE on April 7th" [18:49:31] Sent 3 days ago [18:50:32] I'll have a look [18:50:43] where would people classify the edits? [18:51:02] Platonides, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquetando [18:54:26] halfak: I see the email in wikitech: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.research/5211 [18:54:46] maybe gmail lied you because it collapsed research-l and wikitech-l posts? [18:55:23] Platonides, should be in archive though, right? https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2016-April/thread.html [18:56:19] It could be that I had my subscription for wikitech-l messed up when I sent it. [18:56:37] I had the wrong email address subscribed, but I see no notice of moderation [18:56:45] I saw it in gmane newsgroup for wikitech-l [18:58:07] But you linked to the research one [18:58:13] right, is not in the archives [18:58:24] halfak: but it was shown in gmane wikitech newsgroup [18:58:31] perhaps gmane crossposted it by itself? [18:58:32] Can you link to that? [19:00:03] how to provide a nntp link? [19:00:10] I'm not seeing it on http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical [19:00:25] Me either [19:00:41] So it seems it did not go through some how. Shall I just try to re-send? [19:01:24] aaron.halfaker is a list member [19:02:10] and it's not blocked by mailman either [19:07:58] brb [19:34:33] Hi again [19:34:41] I might help with the labeling [19:38:07] A message in our village pump would be great for recruiting purposes halfak [19:40:48] Back! [19:41:15] Oscar_, I'll look up a past posting to help you get started. [19:46:47] * halfak can't find his past announcements! [19:49:04] Maybe ToAruShiroiNeko made the post [19:50:38] Oscar_, found it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Edit_quality/Invite [19:51:50] Looks like this page will need to be translated to Spanish Wikipedia so that we can give a place for people to sign up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Labels/Edit_quality [19:52:13] Platonides, what do you think? Should I just re-send the email to wikitech-l? [20:07:26] halfak: yes, post something like that over here https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9/Archivo/T%C3%A9cnica/Actual (no worries if is english) [20:22:19] Oscar_, will do! [22:04:39] Oscar_, I just created https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquetando/Editar_calidad with some details about the labeling work for eswiki. [22:04:42] Please review :) [22:09:19] rather than Editar calidad I'd name it Valorar calidad [22:11:12] "some Spanish" [22:11:27] "This page documents the Wikipedia Labels Edit quality campaign for the English Wikipedia. [22:11:37] https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Caf%C3%A9/Archivo/T%C3%A9cnica/Actual#Editar_calidad_etiquetando [22:11:39] Woops [22:12:43] Platonides, would you be willing to clean up the page naming for me. It seems i do not have the rights to move the page yet. [22:15:48] Platonides, re. Valorar calidad, I'm not sure that's quite right. We'll have other campaigns where people rate the quality of whole articles too. [22:15:59] So, maybe "revision quality" is more like it? [22:16:11] That's what I was going for with "edit quality" in english Wikipedia. [22:16:19] Here, "edit" is a noun. [22:16:46] Just thoughts. I'm totally unqualified to judge espanol ;) [22:18:18] FYI: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131963 [22:18:30] ^ Our tracking card for managing the edit quality campaign in eswiki. [22:19:42] on it [22:19:59] Thanks! [22:20:15] you may also "valorar la calidad" of articles [22:20:27] oh [22:20:31] editar would be a verb [22:20:42] "Calidad de ediciones" could be another opcion [22:21:02] Valoración de ediciones… [22:21:30] What do you call the action that an editor takes to save a new revision [22:21:38] In english, we would call it an "edit" [22:22:32] Relatedly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editcountitis [22:22:38] editar [22:22:59] that's the verb [22:23:06] and the object is the edición [22:23:18] edición == revision? [22:23:26] == version [22:23:41] yes [22:23:49] una edición = a revision [22:23:57] we have also the word revisión [22:24:18] but don't really use it in wikipedia context [22:24:19] not sure why [22:24:20] I guess we're rating the quality of the change itself. [22:24:23] Gotcha. [22:25:02] Oscar_: what do you think? [22:25:09] what would be the best name for this? [23:30:05] \o/ ruwiki labeling campaign is done! [23:30:08] putnik, <3 [23:30:26] Excellent work. I hope to get some models built this weekend for my fun hacking time :)