[00:11:16] awight and legoktm thanks for your awesome work on the extension: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/ویژه:ترجیحات#mw-prefsection-betafeatures [00:11:31] the next one is wikidata [00:11:37] wooooo [00:12:01] Amir1: congrats on pushing it all the way through :) [00:13:07] thanks :) [00:13:19] I'll write announcements and stuff tomorrow [00:16:28] I just reverted more than 10 edits [00:16:31] I lost count [00:23:40] Amir1: wow, it's really working now? [00:23:59] awight: yeah [00:24:23] https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%98%D9%87:%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%AC%DB%8C%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%AA#mw-prefsection-betafeatures [00:24:30] https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%98%D9%87:%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%A9%D8%AA%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7/Ladsgroup [00:24:34] awight: ^ [00:24:41] S:RC doesn't seem to have a filter for "Show only damaging edits" [00:24:50] my latest contributions are reaping through vandalisms [00:25:07] awight: you need to enable it as a beta feature first [00:25:42] ah okay, so it's just that the legend is included regardless of feature toggle [00:26:22] yeah, I think I need to fix that [00:27:04] I'm not getting SUL at fawiki :( [00:27:16] oh nvm, there it goes... [00:27:40] aargh, uselang is not sticky [00:28:18] awight: use "setlang" [00:28:40] ooh [00:29:01] Cool! There's a suspicious one: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D8%AE%D9%85%D8%B3_%28%D8%AE%D9%84%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%84%29&curid=1056980&diff=17348745&oldid=17348719 [00:29:09] It works very nicely for me [00:29:35] hmm still no S:RC filtering though [00:30:31] awight: usually it's the last one [00:30:43] check what's the last one [00:32:40] Ah! "Hide good edits", that's much better language that I remembered [00:32:41] *than [00:32:57] Nice and shocking red background! [00:33:18] I don't quite remember when we changed the wording there :D [00:33:22] this is fantastic, I can't wait to see the stats [00:33:35] the design was made by violleto, May Galloway [00:34:08] She is greatly missed! [00:34:18] yeah :( [00:35:30] awight Amir1 I've sent her a copy of this exchange :) [00:35:40] :p [00:35:51] thanks :D [00:36:06] it was her birthday yesterday! [00:36:16] yuvipanda: Glad to see that Berlin doesn't drive you to the bottle. Their beer is weak anyway [00:36:19] ohhhh [00:36:23] :D [00:36:26] I'm not actually in berlin [00:36:36] I'm in Berlin :D [00:36:43] ah wups >,< [00:36:49] but it's super big, 0.5 L [00:36:52] although now I wish I am [00:36:53] why??? :D [00:36:56] mostly becaus edoner [00:36:57] hehe [00:37:18] why are there no good doner shops in the US? [00:37:20] nor in the UK [00:37:36] * yuvipanda shakes head [00:37:54] :D [00:38:26] * yuvipanda has completely replaced his IRC bouncer with something else that's amaizngly wonderful [00:39:00] O_O [00:39:32] I would expect you to say "regular phone call" or something, but you're still here! [00:39:43] you piping to kafka? [00:39:49] awight matrix.org :D [00:40:00] properly federated group and individual chat [00:40:08] in an open source / open protocol [00:40:12] with a nice usable UX too [00:40:19] you probably can't really tell I'm coming in from matrix [00:40:20] * awight puts on shades to peer into the future [00:40:46] Now that you call attention to it, > 17:40 -!- ircname : @Yuvi:matrix.org [00:40:49] but otherwise no [00:40:59] awight gwicke wrote a tiny guide on using it as a bouncer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:GWicke/Matrix.org [00:41:02] he too has been converted [00:41:06] dang. [00:41:37] it even has... end to end encryption (Only in dev version tho) [13:05:44] o/ [13:11:49] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog: Report on projects covered at HPI hackathon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137802#2379457 (10Halfak) [13:12:11] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog: Report on projects covered at HPI hackathon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137802#2379471 (10Halfak) @Ladsgroup, does something like this already exist? [13:19:14] o/ Amir1 [13:37:20] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service: Find out why recent 503 did not result in alerting for ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137592#2379533 (10Halfak) I've confirmed that a request to "/v2/scores/testwiki/reverted/13458/" will produce a 503 response when the ORES service is stuck as it was last week. The... [15:50:57] o/ schana. Around? [15:51:28] hey halfak [15:51:46] Hey. Doing a make-up sync call with Amir1 now. Can you join us now? [15:51:59] I have another meeting in 8 minutes [15:52:05] OK No worries. [15:52:09] We can sync up later. [15:52:14] Okay [15:54:29] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Wikilabels: Move wikilabels js to another place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137626#2379922 (10Halfak) Actually in MediaWiki namespace: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-WikiLabels.js This makes deployments hard. We should specify that this ta... [15:55:39] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service: Find out why recent 503 did not result in alerting for ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137592#2379925 (10Halfak) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/294309/ [15:59:57] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: ORES /etc/ores does not get populated on worker nodes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137813#2379936 (10Halfak) [16:24:31] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service: Untangle deployment repositories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137819#2380089 (10Halfak) [16:24:40] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Untangle deployment repositories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137819#2380102 (10Halfak) [16:29:40] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Move ores_(wsgi|celery).py to ores package - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137820#2380116 (10Halfak) [16:30:20] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Use mediawiki/services/ores/deploy in beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137821#2380136 (10Halfak) [16:34:36] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Deploy ores precaching in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137370#2380161 (10Halfak) p:05Triage>03High a:03Halfak [16:34:49] akosiaris, got time to talk about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137370 ? This is really importanty [16:40:41] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog: [Discuss] ORES extension does precaching in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137823#2380202 (10Halfak) [16:40:55] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES: [Discuss] ORES extension does precaching in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137823#2380215 (10Halfak) [17:01:10] halfak I am going to merge your puppet patch just now [17:01:17] Thanks! [17:01:39] done [17:01:47] it should take effect in about 20-40mins [17:01:50] since Im not forcing a run [17:03:02] halfak also not sure if you got my messages about graphite. we've ordered new hardware and it should be here soon. I've disabled all labs projects except tools, deployment-prep and ores from sending metrics [17:09:55] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES: Announce the first deployment of the ORES extension (fawiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137436#2380276 (10Halfak) [17:11:48] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES: Announce the first deployment of the ORES extension (fawiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137436#2368346 (10Halfak) a:03Halfak [17:13:13] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service: Find out why recent 503 did not result in alerting for ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137592#2372838 (10Halfak) a:03Halfak [17:17:15] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Untangle deployment repositories - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137819#2380332 (10Halfak) a:03Ladsgroup [17:17:41] yuvipanda, great. thanks for the update. [17:18:04] halfak ORES is also one of the whitelisted projects, so you aren't losing data [17:19:16] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-articlequality : Article quality models for Russian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131635#2380339 (10Halfak) https://github.com/wiki-ai/wikiclass/pull/23 Done! [17:21:02] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: New ORES deployment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137828#2380355 (10Halfak) [17:22:19] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: [Investigate] ORES spike of errored requests every hour - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134109#2380370 (10Halfak) That looks like something that @Ragesoss's scripts could be doing. Sage, do you know if these could be your requests? Are you getting a lot of errors... [17:23:38] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10rsaas-editquality: [research] Why is the japanese 'reverted' model so bad? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133405#2380378 (10Halfak) [17:24:32] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service: Develop training session material for Wikimania Hackathon - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134785#2380383 (10Halfak) [17:25:09] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES, 10rsaas-editquality: Analyze the extent of the bias of damage detection models against anons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131668#2380385 (10Halfak) [17:27:08] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Use mediawiki/services/ores/deploy in beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137821#2380136 (10Halfak) [17:27:36] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Use mediawiki/services/ores/deploy in beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137821#2380136 (10Halfak) a:03Ladsgroup [17:29:03] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: Enable ORES extension as a beta feature in fawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137437#2380415 (10Halfak) [17:32:22] \o/ whitelisted :) [17:32:39] It's important. We need that historical data to examine some problems. :/ [17:37:55] indeed, but now we're just losing data for everyone [17:38:08] the new hardware should be there and in place soon hopefully [17:38:58] err [17:38:59] lol [17:39:15] halfak I thought I was replying to hashar on -releng (I just de-whitelisted deployment-prep) [17:39:22] sorry, yes, I agree, whitelisting is important [17:39:39] but this would've not affected the ORES statsd stuff anyway. Just the diamond base metrics (disk space, CPU, etc) [17:41:59] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: [Investigate] ORES spike of errored requests every hour - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134109#2380489 (10Ragesoss) Yeah, pretty sure that's from dashboard.wikiedu.org. I'll adjust the import routine to stop requesting revisions that are deleted. [17:44:45] (to-re-iterate, nothing is affected for ores project) [17:45:21] Gotcha. Thanks :) This whitelisting will not be in vein. We already have plans as soon as labs graphite comes back online. [17:46:34] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: [Investigate] ORES spike of errored requests every hour - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134109#2380492 (10Halfak) \o/ {{done}} [17:46:34] How cool, wikibugs! [17:46:50] :D [17:47:01] ^ I'm going to start doing this more often [17:47:01] halfak it has been online forever. just on https://graphite.wmflabs.org, not http, and the redirect is broken, making it appear more offline than online [17:47:32] WOah! [17:48:29] * halfak uses [17:49:02] it's slow, etc [17:52:33] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: [Investigate] ORES spike of errored requests every hour - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134109#2380498 (10Ragesoss) Fix is in, and it should be deployed this week. [18:47:08] :) [18:47:24] We need to write the weekly update too [19:52:26] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Deploy ores precaching in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137370#2380851 (10Halfak) @yuvipanda, what would the next step be if we were going to pursue your proposal? We do have a "precached" utility and a puppet role for it. [19:57:06] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Deploy ores precaching in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137370#2380869 (10yuvipanda) Easiest is: 1. Add a 'ensure' param to the precached puppet class that takes 'running' and 'stopped' as parameters and passes that on to the base::service_unit 2. Set... [20:05:19] * halfak starts working on the weekly update [20:12:38] halfak: you need to write the announcement so I thought I write the weekly update [20:13:03] OK will get phab tasks together and then leave it to you. [20:13:24] OK Should be all here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/ores_weekly_update [20:17:17] nice [20:17:17] thanks [20:18:04] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: [Investigate] ORES spike of errored requests every hour - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134109#2380933 (10Nettrom) Sounds like this got resolved, awesome! For future reference, if you're looking for SuggestBot it should be making HTTP requests with the appropriate... [20:38:08] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: Enable ORES extension as a beta feature in fawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137437#2381005 (10Ladsgroup) [20:38:10] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 13Patch-For-Review: Deploy ORES extension in fawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130211#2381007 (10Ladsgroup) [20:47:32] Amir1, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Objective_Revision_Evaluation_Service/Extension_announcement [20:47:43] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES: Announce the first deployment of the ORES extension (fawiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137436#2381037 (10Halfak) Please review https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Objective_Revision_Evaluation_Service/Extension_announcement [20:47:52] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES: Announce the first deployment of the ORES extension (fawiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137436#2381038 (10Halfak) [20:47:59] nice [20:48:06] halfak: one thing I forgot to mention [20:48:44] We talked with James, he suggested we should change name of this beta feature to "ORES review tool" [20:49:14] since the extension will do more and each one of functionalities should be different [20:49:37] Sounds fine to me. [20:50:30] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: Limiting ORES to a certain namespace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137844#2381052 (10Ladsgroup) [20:51:14] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: Limiting ORES to special namespace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137844#2381057 (10Yamaha5) [20:52:35] I just added some screenshots to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ORES [20:53:12] halfak: I edited [20:53:22] check out [20:53:30] and also checkout the "ores review tool" page [20:53:50] halfak: I found the old bug [20:53:51] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120923 [20:54:39] "the old bug" [20:54:41] ? [20:56:02] there was a bug I talked to you about in the meeting [20:56:23] the one that we should mark down once we've got ores in one production wiki [20:58:30] Gotcha! Cool :) [20:59:46] I'm going to start in on working on generalizing the ORES applications. [21:13:29] Amir1, did you drop the [epic]s from the update? [21:13:42] yeah [21:13:46] revscoring in 20 [21:13:51] and some other [21:13:57] 1- they are done a while ago [21:14:51] yeah. Just wanted to make sure :) [21:15:21] Oh! We should report and discuss the downtime. [21:15:24] We didn't do that last week [21:16:09] Hmm... Then again, I take it back. [21:16:12] Not much to discuss. [21:16:24] I think reporting on the fix is good enough [21:17:18] Amir1, woops! I looked at the wrong incident documentation when I noted that phab tasks had been registered. See https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20160610-ORES#Actionables [21:18:23] meeting with bf [21:18:28] kk [21:19:03] * halfak adds actionable; [21:19:50] OK weekly update is good to post IMO [21:44:54] Ok, it's done [21:45:00] halfak: let's post [21:45:12] Rock on [21:53:17] SPAMS ARE COMING [21:53:25] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service: Find out why recent 503 did not result in alerting for ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137592#2381151 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:27] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Document ORES scap3 deploy process on wikitech - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137570#2381152 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:29] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES: Announce the first deployment of the ORES extension (fawiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137436#2381154 (10Ladsgroup) [21:53:31] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES, 13Patch-For-Review: Move CORS to uwsgi - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137433#2381153 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:33] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES: Announce the first deployment of the ORES extension (fawiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137436#2368346 (10Ladsgroup) [21:53:35] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Load test ores.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137365#2381158 (10Ladsgroup) [21:53:37] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES, 13Patch-For-Review: Create grafana dashboard for ores.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137367#2381155 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:39] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikilabels: Deploy article topic campaign for WikiEd - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137325#2381159 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:41] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikilabels: Fix PageAsOfRevision view - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137320#2381160 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:43] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service: Build load testing scripts for ores.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137131#2381161 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:45] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Load test ores.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137365#2366213 (10Ladsgroup) [21:53:47] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: [Investigate] ORES spike of errored requests every hour - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134109#2381163 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:49] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-articlequality : Article quality models for Russian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131635#2381164 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:52] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 07Epic: [Epic] Deploy ORES extension as a Beta feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130210#2381166 (10Ladsgroup) [21:53:54] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES, 06Research-and-Data-Backlog, 07Epic, 03RD-2016Q3: [Epic] Release revscoring in 20 projects - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121712#2381167 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:57] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 13Patch-For-Review: Deploy ORES extension in fawiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130211#2381165 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:53:59] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Research-and-Data, 10Research-management, 03RD-2016Q1: Revscoring tasks from Wikimania discussions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106398#2381170 (10Ladsgroup) [21:54:03] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Operations, 06Research-and-Data-Backlog, 10Research-management, and 3 others: [Epic] Deploy Revscoring/ORES service in Prod - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106867#2381168 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [21:57:55] https://github.com/wiki-ai/ores/pull/147 [21:59:17] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: Limiting ORES to a certain namespace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137844#2381188 (10Yamaha5) [22:00:31] halfak: I'm talking to releng team about deploying to wikidata atm. Can I review it tomorrow morning? [22:01:24] Sure! No prob. [22:01:28] Oh! I owe you a review [22:01:32] Forgot about that. [22:01:59] oh yeah :D [22:07:04] OK. Caught a thing in the review. [22:09:07] sure, I will fix it very soon [22:16:28] I just started a big backup. I'm going to grab some dinner and will be back later [22:19:23] sure [22:19:25] have fun [22:25:48] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Load test ores.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137365#2381290 (10Ladsgroup) p:05Triage>03High [22:25:57] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES: Announce the first deployment of the ORES extension (fawiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137436#2381292 (10Ladsgroup) [22:25:59] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES: Load test ores.wikimedia.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137365#2366213 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [22:50:50] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: Populate db should skip errored scores, not to fail - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137854#2381359 (10Ladsgroup) [22:52:12] (03PS1) 10Ladsgroup: Skip when an edit is errored in PopulateDatabase.php [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/294398 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137854) [22:52:59] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: "Even though it looks super trivial, I haven't tested it yet. I will do it first thing tomorrow." [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/294398 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137854) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [22:54:22] I go to sleep, see you soon [22:54:40] please send the announcement to wikitech-l [22:54:41] :D [22:54:43] o/