[11:23:41] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-articlequality , 15User-Ladsgroup: Announce article quality database in labsdb - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146156#2655664 (10Ladsgroup) https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ai/2016-September/000091.html https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Vi... [12:55:29] (03PS4) 10Catrope: Only make hidenondamaging available if damaging is enabled [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310475 [12:56:42] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] "The error is in the parent and should go away when rebasing this." [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/311651 (owner: 10Catrope) [13:00:14] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): "Technically the code is ok, but not nice to read because of the deep nesting. See suggestions inline." (033 comments) [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310475 (owner: 10Catrope) [14:00:56] o/ [14:01:16] I was AFK yesterday for a tweaked neck (hard to sit upright) [14:01:34] I'm still sore today, so I'll likely be heading out early again. [14:12:30] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2655963 (10Halfak) [14:18:56] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2655978 (10Halfak) ## Damaging | Score | Precision | 1-Prec. | Recall | True-neg. rate | 95% | 100.0% | 0.0% | 5.5% | 100% | 85% | 56.1% | 43.9... [14:24:02] halfak o/ [14:24:12] Hey GhassanMas [14:25:36] yesterday I wanted to ask you about mwviews and frequency/grumming/hashing [14:27:33] do you have any ongoing tasks about it, so I can learn more what exactly we need to do [14:41:39] halfak, gotta change the place now. I will check the IRC logs as soon as I come back... [15:26:18] GhassanMas, for when you get back: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146284 [15:31:04] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2656187 (10jmatazzoni) Thans so much for these @Halfak. The Damaging scores make sense. But I’m having trouble understanding the Good-Faith scores. Accor... [17:18:25] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2656633 (10Halfak) I think you are reading it wrong. At the 95% threshold, you'll find that 70.7% good-faith edits are above the threshold and ~100% of ba... [19:58:35] halfak: around? [21:18:39] o/ Amir1 [21:18:53] Sorry was away getting my neck looked at. Been having some issues with it recently [21:19:05] hey, oh :(((((( [21:19:12] don't work too much [21:19:17] have fun [21:19:33] ha. Na. Stuff I want to do. I took most of yesterday off [21:19:37] Feeling much better today :) [21:20:03] Overall :) [21:20:59] halfak: you saw my announcement of the table and also the table in quarry if you want to work with it [21:21:36] I did :) I replied to Peter Ekman [21:22:12] I was thinking why we argue a lot on time interval for historical wp10 scores. You see it as research point of view, I see it as a Wikipeidan point of view [21:22:40] for a Wikipedian tables are important but historical data, not much [21:23:02] but for researchers, the datasets are the most important [21:23:09] This is a fair point. But I still think there's Wikipedian value in seeing the trends. [21:23:19] +1 for the dataset being more important to researchers. [21:23:30] getting the data in the database is what makes it most valuable for Wikipedians. [21:24:01] so I think we should have monthly datasets for researchers [21:24:10] but for tables, several one of them is enough [21:24:19] like five or ten [21:24:26] Amir1, yeah. That I'd generally agree with. [21:24:39] But I think we need a technical probe to know for sure. [21:24:46] Wikipedians have never had historical quality data. [21:24:54] +1 [21:27:11] So, i've figured out how to resume the monthly quality dataset, but it takes a long time to read the whole 30GB dataset from disk and find out which page/timestamp pairs have been processed. [21:27:20] Assuming things go well, I should have this finished tomorrow. [21:27:33] But I'm not sure that the assumption is warranted yet [21:28:31] Awesome! [21:30:49] I'm just finishing up the PCFG scorer thingie too. [21:31:00] I'll need to do a lot more to implement PCFG features though :/ [21:31:29] Arg. Still haven't done the weekly update [21:31:44] I was just looking at our {{done}} column and thinking "WOW! We did a lot." [21:31:45] How efficient, halfak! [21:31:57] Not quite, AsimovBot [21:36:11] :D [22:27:53] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2657711 (10jmatazzoni) [22:28:36] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2657716 (10jmatazzoni) I hope it's OK that... [22:29:16] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2657717 (10jmatazzoni) [22:31:59] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2657755 (10Halfak) I'd like to mark this ta... [22:34:28] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2657760 (10Halfak) [22:34:55] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2655963 (10Halfak) [22:35:09] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2655963 (10Halfak) [22:35:12] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2657764 (10jmatazzoni) [22:35:41] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146334#2657779 (10Halfak) [22:36:03] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10revscoring: Implement a basic scoring strategy for PCFGs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146335#2657791 (10Halfak) [22:36:06] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2657764 (10jmatazzoni) @Halfak created thes... [22:37:19] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2657807 (10Halfak) I just re-created a task for tracking the increased scope. See T146334 [22:37:50] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2657810 (10jmatazzoni) [22:37:52] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2657809 (10jmatazzoni) [22:38:07] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2657812 (10Halfak) [22:38:11] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146334#2657779 (10Halfak) [22:40:19] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Produce tables of stats for damaging and goodfaith models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146280#2657816 (10Halfak) Looks like we'll be working from T146333 after all. [22:41:19] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality, 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2657830 (10jmatazzoni) [22:43:48] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality, 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2657833 (10jmatazzoni) a:05Halfak>03j... [22:45:24] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality, 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2657764 (10jmatazzoni) [22:46:30] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality, 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2657843 (10jmatazzoni) [22:48:09] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10revscoring: Implement a basic scoring strategy for PCFGs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146335#2657845 (10Halfak) [23:01:59] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10revscoring: Implement a basic scoring strategy for PCFGs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146335#2657858 (10Halfak) https://github.com/halfak/kasami I produced this largely from reviewing and simplifying code found in https://github.com/aetilley/pcfg. Most of my notes a... [23:21:43] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10revscoring: Implement a basic scoring strategy for PCFGs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146335#2657891 (10Halfak) I'd like to see if @aetilley has time to review the `score()` method here: https://github.com/halfak/kasami/blob/master/kasami/tree_scorer.py#L29 Here's a... [23:25:29] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10revscoring: Implement a basic scoring strategy for PCFGs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146335#2657791 (10Halfak) a:03Halfak