[17:43:53] (03PS1) 10Sbisson: [WIP] Add classes to RC lines so they can be highlighted [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/327007 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152797) [17:45:59] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Add classes to RC lines so they can be highlighted [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/327007 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152797) (owner: 10Sbisson) [17:56:42] (03PS2) 10Sbisson: [WIP] Add classes to RC lines so they can be highlighted [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/327007 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152797) [18:43:52] (03PS3) 10Sbisson: [WIP] Add classes to RC lines so they can be highlighted [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/327007 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152797) [19:42:51] CKUT has had some nice programming [19:43:14] (https://ckut.ca/en/node/49) [19:43:59] * awight waves [20:13:06] o/ [20:13:08] Hey awight [20:13:20] Saw your emails. I sent one reply that was sitting there and I'm working on another. [20:18:13] I'm should publicly state here that I'm really looking forward to playing a role in the group who the WMF will provide to support ORES-as-production, and wanted to holler at Amir1 (when he is here) and others about the possibility. How thrilling! Not sure the odds are in my favor (as usual), but I'm pushing for it. [20:18:22] halfak: ty for the replies! [20:19:30] :) Sorry they took so long. I'm really struggling to develop my political language here. [20:19:57] I have a note about writing up an essay about my style of product management. [20:20:12] (just replied to one) [20:20:32] cool! I could help rubber duck that if I were given a chance to work with you, for reals. [20:20:35] for REAL [20:20:38] what is wrong with this place... [20:22:24] Maybe it's that, channels for so-called individual contributor staff to have any say at all in organizational decision-making are so... unventilated [20:23:00] (03PS4) 10Sbisson: [WIP] Add classes to RC lines so they can be highlighted [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/327007 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152797) [20:23:56] Good questions. [20:35:13] * awight considers pacing by my ducks, occasionally talking to myself and feeling amused when they quack more than usual [20:35:32] I might haz PTSD from all the fundraisers plus in-between emergencies. [20:35:38] * awight checks self for symptoms [20:36:46] seems to not be diagnosed by symptoms [21:58:46] (03CR) 10Cenarium: Defer changes matching specified thresholds [WIP] (032 comments) [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/326156 (owner: 10Cenarium) [23:09:20] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Meta ORES: UI/API for reviewing/refuting how ORES classifies you and your stuff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148700#2871046 (10Halfak) [23:13:48] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10AbuseFilter, 10ORES: Suppression system for Meta ORES freeform text fields - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153142#2871070 (10awight) [23:15:16] meta-ores is "low" priority?? [23:15:23] y not normal? [23:21:23] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: ORES query results should include Meta-ORES refutations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153143#2871103 (10awight) [23:21:39] halfak: I totally stole the stubbing from under yr nose [23:22:21] awight, just because we don't have a clear way to prioritize it given current resources. [23:22:58] maaah [23:23:02] That doesn't sound right [23:23:23] I'm always bringing this up in fr-tech, but we don't have a good way of distinguishing between.. severity and urgency [23:23:42] it's a really big problem and needs to be solved ASAP. But not as asap as more pressing problems [23:23:52] d'oh. [23:24:07] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Meta ORES: API data storage and querying - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153145#2871141 (10Halfak) [23:24:52] awight, right. Would be nice to call attention to high importance, but non-urgent items [23:25:26] I'd suggest separating priority from scheduling. [23:25:36] use the a workboard to schedule [23:25:39] /the// [23:26:03] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Meta ORES: API data storage and querying - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153145#2871141 (10Halfak) [23:28:09] awight, a lot of people like using the backlog priorities to choose what to work on next [23:28:46] Seems like we need "importance", "urgency" and then leave priority-setting to a conversation at the time the task may or may not be picked up. [23:28:53] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Spike: [bike shed] Name the Meta ORES service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153146#2871167 (10awight) [23:29:10] whew! [23:29:13] that makes sense, though [23:29:20] so there's a single axis to sort by [23:29:39] I'm sure it'll be easy to ask for that fix in Phabricator :p [23:29:54] ha [23:31:01] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Spike: Should we integrate Meta ORES with Flow? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153147#2871186 (10awight) [23:32:37] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Meta ORES: UI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153148#2871202 (10Halfak) [23:34:26] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Spike: Consider how to target *any* wiki entity for review, make a long-term plan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153149#2871216 (10awight) [23:34:47] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: [Discuss] Could Wiki Labels backed be replaced with Meta ORES? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153150#2871229 (10Halfak) [23:35:03] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Meta ORES: UI/API for reviewing/refuting how ORES classifies you and your stuff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148700#2871242 (10awight) [23:35:13] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Meta ORES: API data storage and querying - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153145#2871243 (10Halfak) p:05Triage>03Low [23:35:43] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Spike: Consider how to target *any* wiki entity for review, make a long-term plan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153149#2871216 (10awight) [23:35:55] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Spike: Consider how to target *any* wiki entity for review, make a long-term plan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153149#2871250 (10Halfak) We could probably use triples of (, , ). E.g. ("enwiki", "revision", 2345671) [23:36:46] woah wikibugs [23:40:52] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Spike: Consider how to target *any* wiki entity for review, make a long-term plan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153149#2871258 (10awight) Maybe we need to brainstorm use cases before going too far down that road, but I think it's a solid beginning to have... [23:43:37] halfak: Have you written about meta-ores anywhere? [23:43:41] * awight wants to linkify [23:43:53] awight, http://socio-technologist.blogspot.com/2016/10/best-practices-for-ai-in-social-spaces.html [23:43:57] :) [23:44:49] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Meta ORES: UI/API for reviewing/refuting how ORES classifies you and your stuff - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148700#2871265 (10awight) [23:45:37] Subjective Conduit for Argument and Reason [23:45:57] SCAR! [23:46:32] https://craigsturzaker.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/20130801_152414.jpg [23:46:48] scarface claw from Hairy Clairy from Donaldson's Dairy [23:46:56] Authority eXchange of Evaluations (AXE) [23:46:58] *Hairy McClairy [23:47:03] whoa [23:47:21] interesting, suddenly sounds like there's a whole jargon to support this [23:47:55] Mining is extraction of valuable minerals or other geological materials from the earth usually from an orebody, lode, vein, seam, reef or placer deposits. These deposits form a mineralized package that is of economic interest to the miner. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining) [23:57:04] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Design Meta ORES data storage schema - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153152#2871283 (10Halfak) [23:57:30] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Spike: Consider how to target *any* wiki entity for review, make a long-term plan - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153149#2871297 (10Halfak) [23:57:32] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Design Meta ORES data storage schema - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153152#2871283 (10Halfak) [23:57:47] awight, OK. Looks like we have a decent set of stubs. [23:58:38] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10ORES: Spike: [bike shed] Name the Meta ORES service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153146#2871298 (10Halfak) [23:58:59] It feels a bit uneven though [23:59:06] Maybe I can flesh out the UI one a hair [23:59:14] like, that's where 90% of the work is