[00:12:00] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 06Discovery-Search, 10Research Ideas: Use implicit feedback to improve search rankings - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155559#2954855 (10EBernhardson) I've also been testing implementations of clickmodels, specifically DBN. * http://olivier.chapelle.cc/pub/DBN_... [08:49:47] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service: Expose version of the service and its dependencies - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155814#2955395 (10Ladsgroup) [10:22:42] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10DBA, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10ORES, 15User-Ladsgroup: Fatal exception of type "DBQueryError" on sorting ORES contributions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500#2955621 (10Ladsgroup) I wish I would have seen this sooner. A patch is coming, Since i... [10:26:05] (03PS1) 10Ladsgroup: Do not add rc_patrol = 0 when querying user contributions [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) [10:26:24] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10DBA, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10ORES, and 2 others: Fatal exception of type "DBQueryError" on sorting ORES contributions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500#2955626 (10Ladsgroup) p:05Triage>03Unbreak! [10:26:53] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10DBA, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10ORES, and 2 others: Fatal exception of type "DBQueryError" on sorting ORES contributions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500#2955631 (10Ladsgroup) I'll add a regression test soon. [10:29:23] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: "I confirm this fixes the bug raised. You can test it in http://mw-revscoring.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContribution" [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [10:30:48] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: "It seems it breaks other queries :D" [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [10:36:26] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: "Nope, it wasn't related. I just needed to update mediawiki/core" [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [10:52:24] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Clean up special case handling in ORES\Hooks::hideNonDamagingFilter [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) [10:54:35] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 031] "This "special case of a special case" is very much unreadable. Please see my follow up Ic04fedb. Feel free to pick up what you like from m" [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [10:55:04] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: Clean up special case handling in ORES\Hooks::hideNonDamagingFilter (031 comment) [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [10:57:09] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: "I'll use your followup and apply it on my patch. Then we can merge and backport it. Sounds good?" [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [11:00:14] (03PS2) 10Ladsgroup: Do not add rc_patrol = 0 when querying user contributions [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) [11:14:55] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: "I applied Thiemo's patch in here." [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [11:33:19] (03CR) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): [C: 032] Do not add rc_patrol = 0 when querying user contributions [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [11:33:31] (03Abandoned) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Clean up special case handling in ORES\Hooks::hideNonDamagingFilter [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333229 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [11:35:47] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Do not add rc_patrol = 0 when querying user contributions [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333226 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [11:35:59] (03PS1) 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE): Remove default "return true" from all hook handlers [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333234 [11:53:54] (03PS1) 10Ladsgroup: Do not add rc_patrol = 0 when querying user contributions [extensions/ORES] (wmf/1.29.0-wmf.8) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333236 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) [11:56:46] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Do not add rc_patrol = 0 when querying user contributions [extensions/ORES] (wmf/1.29.0-wmf.8) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333236 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [11:57:21] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] "Just to be clear, it's the backport, the main patch reviewed and merged by someone else." [extensions/ORES] (wmf/1.29.0-wmf.8) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333236 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [12:10:27] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Do not add rc_patrol = 0 when querying user contributions [extensions/ORES] (wmf/1.29.0-wmf.8) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333236 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500) (owner: 10Ladsgroup) [12:35:21] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10DBA, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10ORES, and 3 others: Fatal exception of type "DBQueryError" on sorting ORES contributions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500#2945272 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved [13:38:54] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2955973 (10Ladsgroup) [13:39:07] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2955988 (10Ladsgroup) [13:41:30] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2955991 (10Ladsgroup) https://github.com/wiki-ai/wikilabels-wmflabs-deploy/pull/29 Here's a snippet: {F5318532} {F5318529} [13:41:53] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2955992 (10Ladsgroup) @Lydia_Pintscher @Lea_Lacroix_WMDE Does it look good? [14:10:22] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10DBA, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10ORES, and 4 others: Fatal exception of type "DBQueryError" on sorting ORES contributions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155500#2956030 (10Marostegui) Thanks @Ladsgroup! [14:20:55] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 031] Remove default "return true" from all hook handlers [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333234 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [14:56:39] o/ [14:59:09] halfak: hey [14:59:28] Hey dude. [15:01:28] Start your day with PR review :D [15:09:11] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove default "return true" from all hook handlers [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/333234 (owner: 10Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)) [15:09:58] halfak: btw. we had a deployment of wikipedia for ores extension today [15:10:03] for the bug you showed me [15:16:44] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2956061 (10Halfak) I wonder if we could provide some guidance for each quality level in the form -- to help people rate consiste... [15:19:13] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES, 06Reading-Infrastructure-Team: [Spike] Review ORES architecture - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153321#2956079 (10Halfak) [15:20:29] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES, 06Reading-Infrastructure-Team: [Spike] Review ORES architecture - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153321#2876634 (10Halfak) Great. Thanks @dr0ptp4kt. @tgr, would you be willing to have this task assigned to you? [15:22:54] halfak: reviewing the slides done [15:25:17] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2956081 (10Ladsgroup) I was thinking of two reviewers per task so it'll be less subjective but overall things will be more or le... [15:30:54] Cool. Reviewing your notes. [15:54:29] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2956114 (10Halfak) Aggregating two labels might be hard. Maybe we could ask for two labels of a set of items and run a follow-u... [16:06:17] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): Implement new precision-based test stats for editquality models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151970#2956145 (10SBisson) @Halfak What's needed for the v2 api t... [16:11:18] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10rsaas-editquality, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): Implement new precision-based test stats for editquality models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151970#2956162 (10Halfak) Right now, we'll need to put a lot of w... [16:13:47] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Research-and-Data: FY18 ORES resourcing proposal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155786#2956171 (10Halfak) [16:14:05] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 06Research-and-Data, 07Epic: [Epic] FY18 ORES resourcing proposal - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155786#2954583 (10Halfak) [16:47:57] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES, 06Reading-Infrastructure-Team: [Spike] Review ORES architecture - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153321#2956223 (10Fjalapeno) @dr0ptp4kt is there a ticket for the development of the plan itself? If not I can create one, just let the know. [16:53:33] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10ORES, 06Reading-Infrastructure-Team: [Spike] Review ORES architecture - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153321#2956225 (10dr0ptp4kt) @Fjalapeno not that I know of, please do. [18:47:43] (03PS10) 10Sbisson: [DO NOT MERGE] Fetch thresholds from live stats for filters [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/332825 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152161) [18:55:24] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog: Text complexity scoring - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155843#2956513 (10Halfak) [18:57:32] Nice [19:29:20] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog: Text complexity scoring - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155843#2956585 (10Halfak) So I'm thinking that we could have a scorer that, given a rev_id, can return a complex JSON document of scores using a library like [textstat](https://pypi.python.org/pypi/textstat).... [19:59:24] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas: Taidi: Translation AI for documentation and information - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155588#2947807 (10EBernhardson) Potentially useful: https://github.com/OpenNMT/OpenNMT [20:11:15] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas: Rehomer -- a redirect reverted edits that would be valuable on a different wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155845#2956649 (10Halfak) [20:13:34] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Recommendation-API: Reference recommender system - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155846#2956665 (10Halfak) [20:16:14] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Wikidata: Linked fact checker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155560#2956683 (10Halfak) a:03Jseddon [20:16:22] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Wikidata: Linked fact checker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155560#2947029 (10Halfak) a:05Jseddon>03None [20:17:52] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas: General image classifier for commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155538#2956686 (10Halfak) [20:19:01] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas: General image classifier for commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155538#2946598 (10Halfak) @ellery & @leila, this is something that came up quite often at the Dev. Summit. Is it something you'd be interested in looking into? [20:19:19] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Wikidata: Linked fact checker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155560#2947029 (10Zppix) This looks interesting I'm going to see if I cannot find a way to do this. (I will assign myself if I find out how.) [20:25:04] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas: Machine translation learned by comparing content across wikipedia languages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155847#2956696 (10Halfak) [20:27:29] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog: Focus point: Automatically identify the focus point of images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155848#2956715 (10Halfak) [20:28:02] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas: Focus point: Automatically identify the focus point of images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155848#2956728 (10Halfak) [20:32:51] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: Focus point: Automatically identify the focus point of images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155848#2956732 (10Halfak) [20:34:11] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: Focus point: Automatically identify the focus point of images - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155848#2956733 (10Niedzielski) It would be super cool if desktop and mobile web had the ability to properly focus pictures w... [20:35:22] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: Rehomer -- a redirect reverted edits that would be valuable on a different wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155845#2956737 (10Halfak) [20:35:35] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 07Easy, 07artificial-intelligence: Text complexity scoring - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155843#2956738 (10Halfak) [20:35:49] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: New editor potential predictor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155756#2956740 (10Halfak) [20:36:23] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: BR-Discussion detector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153219#2956742 (10Halfak) [20:37:21] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: Conversation summarizer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155587#2956746 (10Halfak) [20:37:44] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 07artificial-intelligence: Notability detector - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155561#2956748 (10Halfak) [20:37:55] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Wikidata, 07artificial-intelligence: Linked fact checker - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155560#2956749 (10Halfak) [20:38:15] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: Newcomer coaching AI - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155542#2956752 (10Halfak) [20:38:41] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Recommendation-API, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: WikiProject recommender service - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155539#2956756 (10Halfak) [20:38:51] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: General image classifier for commons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155538#2956758 (10Halfak) [20:38:59] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 07artificial-intelligence: Politeness as signal/model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152710#2956759 (10Halfak) [20:39:05] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 07artificial-intelligence: Wikidata label quality model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151975#2956760 (10Halfak) [20:39:18] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Wikidata, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events, 07artificial-intelligence: Wikidata item quality classification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127470#2956761 (10Halfak) [20:39:24] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10revscoring, 07artificial-intelligence: Train/test copyvio detection model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131481#2956762 (10Halfak) [20:40:02] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 07Spike, 07artificial-intelligence: [Spike] Semi-supervised machine learning - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143123#2956763 (10Halfak) [20:40:37] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: New article WikiProject category predictor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123327#2956764 (10Halfak) [20:40:52] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: Paid editing (COI) detection model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120170#2956781 (10Halfak) [20:43:20] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: Paid editing (COI) detection model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120170#2956786 (10Halfak) I've trained a PCFG on content from Spam articles and it seems to work pretty well. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rese... [21:16:40] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 07artificial-intelligence: Article similarity scorer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155853#2956859 (10Halfak) [21:18:56] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 07artificial-intelligence: Article similarity scorer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155853#2956874 (10Halfak) @Shilad was working a project that provided semantic related measures as an API. Is that still happening? [21:49:07] 10Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service-Backlog, 10Research Ideas, 07artificial-intelligence: Rehomer -- a redirect reverted edits that would be valuable on a different wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155845#2956649 (10Zppix) I wonder if the Editing Department would be interested in this? [21:52:09] OK I'm out of here. Have a good one folks! [22:10:56] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2957048 (10Glorian_WD) @Halfak @Ladsgroup : I believe in order to rate items, people could follow the guideline in showcase item... [22:11:11] 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10Wikidata, 15User-Ladsgroup, 05WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events: Build item_quality form - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155828#2957049 (10Glorian_WD) @Halfak @Ladsgroup : I believe in order to rate items, people could follow the guideline in showcase item...