[07:53:32] PROBLEM - puppet on ORES-web01.Experimental is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [08:23:30] RECOVERY - puppet on ORES-web01.Experimental is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 17 seconds ago with 0 failures [10:42:45] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10editquality-modeling, 10Spanish-Sites, 10artificial-intelligence: Deploy edit quality models for eswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130279#3933736 (10MarcoAurelio) Hi. I was wondering if you had some specific dates in mind to do the deploy? It happens (@-jem- will correc... [11:42:51] Hello [14:34:05] o/ [14:58:53] ohai [15:01:21] o/ [15:01:29] awight: halfak am I in the wrong channel? [15:01:34] wrong hangout [15:01:43] I’m just slow [15:34:50] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10ORES, 10Patch-For-Review: Make sure ORES is compatible with stretch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182799#3934182 (10akosiaris) [15:34:54] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10ORES, 10Operations, 10Patch-For-Review: Reimage ores* hosts with Debian Stretch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171851#3934181 (10akosiaris) [16:18:06] I’m going to look through this reference before our chat: [16:18:07] http://s3-patterns.evolvingcollaboration.com/S3-patterns-handbook.pdf [16:18:25] Specifically, chapter 13, “people and roles” [16:19:36] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ues7Hn2tD9I9w6DYUMFmMMJLFSZSteuZN1B-S5i4TG0/edit#gid=0 [16:29:14] awight: I know you're busy but getting this reviewed will unblock me in so many cases: https://github.com/wiki-ai/editquality/pull/122 [16:29:15] :P [16:29:18] Sorry [16:29:23] cool, will do now! [16:30:16] Amir1: Do you have the commandline queued up to rebuild the diff? [16:30:20] If no, I can do it [16:32:55] not yet and I have to leave right now :( [16:34:08] got it! I have a commandline, I’m just being lazy :) [16:56:58] Amir1: halfak: codezee: Please take a peek at the spreadsheet above, I wanted to have a framework ready before our meeting. [16:57:16] Thanks, awight [16:57:22] Please adjust or suggest changes! [16:57:40] IMO it’s most useful to break our projects into the smallest discrete pieces [16:59:27] What period are we looking at here? FY2019, or a single quarter? [17:16:35] halfak: Is autolabeling only used for reverted model training? [17:17:04] awight, it's also used for flagging "needs review" [17:17:20] awight, re. the spreadsheet, I think we should describe our current status. [17:17:25] What do we do with “revisions for review”? [17:17:52] halfak: I agree. i.e., the phase of each project? [17:18:19] awight, we load them in wikilabels. [17:18:43] okay ty! [17:19:05] Amir1 just killed the manual enwiki rules! [17:19:21] * awight contemplates possibility that Amir1 is a friendly cyborg [17:20:19] halfak: btw there’s also an etherpad, I realized it would be a better fit for the content: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Scoring_Platform__Roles [17:20:43] Trying my best to leave the actual content blank everywhere until we have a group discussion, though. [17:44:39] (03PS8) 10Awight: [DNM] Build venv into deployed source dir [services/ores/deploy] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/392682 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181071) [19:07:57] halfak: This is a great presentation! [19:08:09] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181071 is mentioned as done btw, but it’s pending review. [19:08:20] Which presentation? [19:08:36] The QR deck you just dropped [19:08:40] I’m looking at page 32 [19:08:43] Oh great :) [19:08:53] not sure how you have a screenshot with incorrect info… Photoshop? :p [19:09:30] Oh! is some of that not done? I edited the wiki page right before screen-capping [19:09:52] weird! [19:10:21] I see— I’ll fix it [19:12:52] {{done}} [19:12:52] How efficient, awight! [19:13:29] Ahh yeah. [19:13:31] Good catch [19:13:42] Page 34, Sumit isn’t technically a volunteer eh [19:14:13] Can I update to “Contractor” on the wiki, and screencap? [19:14:18] halfak: ^ [19:14:32] +1 [19:18:49] i remember a talk perhaps about bias in ores from the 'is_anonymous' feature, but the only thing i could find on phab was a switch from SVM to GBT. By chance was the talk or slides stored somewhere? (or am i halucinating? :) [19:19:09] Hey ebernhardson! Yeah. I'll get 'em [19:19:43] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Deploying_and_maintaining_AI_in_a_socio-technical_system_--_Research_Showcase_(August_2016).pdf [19:19:49] halfak: thanks! [19:19:58] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsFmqYxtt9w [19:20:06] Talk starts about half-way through [19:21:03] halfak: OK changes made. You were mentioning that it could use more linkifying, but nothing jumped out at me. Did you have some slides in mind? [19:21:32] awight, nothing in particular. Just thought maybe you'd have something else occur to you. [19:21:35] Thanks for taking a pass. [19:23:52] I hope the audience gasps at “2.55 FTEs” [19:43:36] Hi, does any one know if a revision I made is reverted, will I be notified? [19:44:11] On simple-wiki it notifies you. I don’t know about elsewhere. [19:47:32] xinbenlv: it's a config setting. in your Preferences, go to Notifications. there is a checkbox "Edit revert" among others [19:47:52] so select which actions cause notifications and whether web or email [21:05:17] halfak: the scap rabbithole yawned at me! I had to write a patch to https://pypi.python.org/pypi/coverage in order to write a unit test for scap… [21:05:31] I think this particular portal to hell has closed up again, happily. [21:07:03] there are many doors that may lead to hell… [21:07:53] * awight throws the bolt and runs away :) [21:18:46] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10editquality-modeling, 10Spanish-Sites, 10artificial-intelligence: Deploy edit quality models for eswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130279#3935311 (10Halfak) The damaging/goodfaith models are already available directly through ORES. I'm aware of that vandal bot issue th... [21:20:50] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Spanish-Sites: PatruBot is too sensitive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186156#3935313 (10Halfak) [21:21:06] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10editquality-modeling, 10Spanish-Sites, 10artificial-intelligence: Deploy edit quality models for eswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130279#3935325 (10Halfak) {T186156} [21:22:25] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Spanish-Sites: PatruBot is too sensitive - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186156#3935313 (10Halfak) Generally, I think you want to set very strict criteria on a bot that automatically reverts vandalism. E.g. with this query, you can see that setting a confidence threshold at 0... [21:33:55] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/407098 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [21:35:10] Probably out for the day... [23:00:52] o/ [23:27:19] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10MediaWiki-Core-Tests, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Release-Engineering-Team, and 2 others: How do I test my extension's maintenance scripts? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184775#3935774 (10awight) Some docs added: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Ma... [23:31:46] o/