[00:28:09] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10User-Tgr, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test damaging and goodfaith model for Hungarian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185903#3984545 (10Tgr) Thanks, templating does indeed make it a lot easier! >>! In T185... [10:03:00] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10AbuseFilter, 10ORES: Investigate training ORES with AbuseFilter conditions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186256#3938852 (10Daimona) I agree, the idea is good, though we would need some ways to set a "quality" for each filter, e.g. T30213. [12:08:56] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Serbian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178108#3985179 (10Ladsgroup) When the campaign is finished. See the stats: http://labels.wmflabs.org/stats/srwiki/62. When it's close to 100%, just let me know a... [12:12:46] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Catalan Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187771#3985183 (10Ladsgroup) [12:13:23] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Catalan Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187771#3985198 (10Ladsgroup) @Townie: Hey, can you translate "Edit quality (20k sample)" to Catalan? Thank you :) [12:18:57] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter), and 4 others: Selenium tests for ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184451#3985212 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved Yup, We usually keep done... [13:29:03] Amir1: I just realized—do you not have permissions to merge PRs for Ext:JADE? [13:29:44] Problem averted! I missed this from last week, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/New_repositories/Requests [13:57:02] Amir1: ^_^ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/projects/mediawiki/extensions/JADE,dashboards/default:open [14:04:31] halfak: ^ You’re also welcome to CR in there :) [14:04:53] IMO, once these are merged, we can talk about deploying to the beta cluster. [14:20:40] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10ChangeProp, 10ORES, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Services (doing): Change ORES rules to send all events to new "/precache" endpoint - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158437#3985634 (10awight) @Pchelolo >>! In T158437#3978449, @Pchelolo wrote: > I don't see these rules i... [14:23:43] o/ [14:24:51] /me hops around with a muffled code reviewy expression [14:24:52] awight: cool, thanks :) [14:25:29] I see you’re both busy today, so no rush… but tomorrow I’ll be back to telemarketing my patches ;-) [14:37:48] Totally reasonable. [14:38:22] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Catalan Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187771#3985673 (10Townie) That would be "Qualitat de l'edició (mostra 20k)". Thanks! [15:27:01] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test reverted model for Catalan Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182611#3985922 (10Halfak) We can definitely use the edit type data. We'll get an edit-type model built ASAP. It's a... [15:54:00] * halfak continues work on his showcase presentation slides for tomorrow. [16:07:43] * awight slashes into continuous integration grus closing in from every side [16:11:12] (03PS1) 10Awight: Docs, codesniff and fixes [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412936 [16:11:18] O_O [16:11:23] legoktm is fast [16:12:32] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Docs, codesniff and fixes [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412936 (owner: 10Awight) [16:13:58] legoktm: I’d love your suggestions: I have a long chain of patches written before our CI was in place, capped with a few extensive patches to get us passing CI. It’s gonna be really laborious and annoying to backport the changes to fix issues as I introduced them; what’s the best practice here? Maybe I should just squash the whole thing and call it a day? [16:15:42] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Serbian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178108#3986190 (10Zoranzoki21) >>! In T178108#3985179, @Ladsgroup wrote: > When the campaign is finished. See the stats: http://labels.wmflabs.org/stats/srwiki/6... [16:15:52] I would probably just squash for now [16:17:43] +1 solid [16:22:20] (03PS2) 10Awight: Docs, codesniff and fixes [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412936 [16:28:54] (03PS2) 10Awight: Implement validations, write tests [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412907 [16:29:29] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: Docs, codesniff and fixes [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412936 (owner: 10Awight) [16:29:41] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: Allow empty data. [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412932 (owner: 10Awight) [16:29:43] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: Continuous integration fixes [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412923 (owner: 10Awight) [16:29:45] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: Create "JADE" test group [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412914 (owner: 10Awight) [16:29:47] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: Validate that the judgment wiki title matches its contents [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412912 (owner: 10Awight) [16:29:50] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: Test basic actions [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412911 (owner: 10Awight) [16:29:52] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: Validate all built-in schemas [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412910 (owner: 10Awight) [16:29:57] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: Advanced validation; tests [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412909 (owner: 10Awight) [16:30:01] (03Abandoned) 10Awight: No additional properties should be allowed [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412908 (owner: 10Awight) [16:55:27] hey, fyi, tomorrow EU morning I 'll be cleaning up scb* from ORES. We 've waited long enough, the migration has been successful. [16:55:45] Confirmed. Sounds great. [16:55:47] akosiaris: Wonderful! Congrats on a smooth migration [16:55:50] \o/ [16:56:24] \o/ [16:56:35] akosiaris: The only functional change should be that change-prop hits the new cluster, right? [16:56:42] yes [16:57:48] Did we move the web workers to ORES*? [16:57:55] yep! [16:58:03] Cool. [16:58:07] scb1002 is still web-working for change-prop, but that is all. [16:58:11] Both eqiad and CODFW saw traffic? [17:01:11] yup [17:08:21] (03PS3) 10Awight: Implement validations, write tests [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412907 [17:09:07] halfak: Nice work on the stretch branch! [17:20:22] Amir1: FYI, I’ve squashed all the things, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/412907/ [17:20:52] Sorry, but it had to be done to avoid my complete meltdown due to backporting all the CI fixes. [17:21:11] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Implement validations, write tests [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412907 (owner: 10Awight) [17:21:16] lol [17:21:35] * awight shakes a femur at the heavens [17:23:29] (03PS4) 10Awight: Implement validations, write tests [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/412907 [17:42:26] is there any trick to find the max version of a library thats compatible with current max versions of numpy scipy required by revscoring? [17:43:04] basically i'm concerned with what max version of gensim i can use in requirements file of revscoring [17:43:12] the latest would also require latest numpy, scipy [17:43:21] install, test, confirm version [17:43:42] No short cut I know of. [17:44:02] oh, okay [17:44:10] We could update numpy and scipy. That wouldn't be out of the question [17:45:13] halfak: i've added word2vec to revscoring, if you get time you can look at how the feature usage looks in the description at - https://github.com/wiki-ai/revscoring/pull/391, otherwise i'll discuss in detail in backlog [17:59:25] other than verifying tests with latest scipy and numpy are there any other blockers in updating versions for these? [18:00:41] codezee: The models have to be rebuilt, but that’s just an inconvenience and not a blocker. [18:00:57] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Write model-centric integration tests for revscoring - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187819#3986849 (10awight) [18:03:43] ok i verified upgrading these versions and testing and also compatibility of latest gensim with it, if a consensus is reached i'll do the upgrade with word-vectors change [18:08:11] halfak: gotta do kid things for 1-2 hours. Sorry that my attendance is at-risk for our docs meeting. [18:08:18] srrodlund: ^ apologies! [18:08:27] bbiab [18:08:49] awight I can move it to another day [18:09:09] Up to you two; I’ll try to make it, but will be iffy. [18:14:13] I moved it to tomorrow -- which relieves a little pressure on my end. Since I also get to cover front desk today! [18:24:56] OK to move by me too. I'm cramming today [18:24:59] Thanks srrodlund [18:25:03] I'm off to lunch [18:25:43] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Serbian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178108#3986899 (10Ladsgroup) On http://labels.wmflabs.org/ui/srwiki/ [19:04:07] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Serbian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178108#3987006 (10Zoranzoki21) >>! In T178108#3986899, @Ladsgroup wrote: > On http://labels.wmflabs.org/ui/srwiki/ No it. I asked where I can let you know. [19:31:22] back. Working on slides again [20:51:14] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Serbian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178108#3987328 (10Ladsgroup) Whatever way that I can get your message works, email, here, visiting WMDE office and having a coffee with me :). Whatever is more c... [20:59:23] halfak: o/ [20:59:31] o/ awight [20:59:38] I have a few conferences to run by you, but am still narrowing down so I’m now wasting your time. [20:59:44] One thing I got pretty excited about: https://datajusticelab.org/ [21:04:23] This one is sort of less specific, although I would sell my shoes to see Tim Berners-Lee, and IMO there’s plenty of overlap, e.g. data curation at scale: http://websci18.webscience.org/ [21:04:43] awight, looks relevant to me. [21:04:53] OK, last one I’ll bug you about for now, http://naacl2018.org [21:05:25] Also looks relevant to me. [21:05:56] Either of those still have a deadline where we might submit a workshop proposal? [21:07:48] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Serbian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178108#3987371 (10Zoranzoki21) >>! In T178108#3987328, @Ladsgroup wrote: > Whatever way that I can get your message works, email, here, visiting WMDE office and... [21:08:54] awight, ^ [21:09:00] See q re. proposal for a workshop [21:09:02] data justice is closed [21:09:14] websci18, yes feb 25th is the extended deadline [21:09:24] awight, when is FATML meeting next? [21:09:39] naacl is today :( [21:09:49] Damn re. naacl [21:10:06] Maybe Shilad is interested in putting something together [21:10:20] I can't imagine it could be done so quickly though. [21:10:49] FATML is next week, https://fatconference.org/2018/index.html [21:11:19] Sorry, I sat on this list over the weekend… didn’t consider that you might be able to send people to present. [21:18:42] awight, no worries. :) It's OK. Just best to take our best advantage. I didn't have as much free time/space to be a better workshop organizer this year : [21:18:45] :\ [21:20:12] Arg! I forgot to ask codezee for some real world examples of drafttopic prediction [21:20:15] * halfak makes some up :)( [21:24:14] halfak: Do you have a private like for Shilad? [21:25:31] huh [21:26:09] Generally, I'm OK stating my approval of shilad publicly [21:26:10] :P [21:26:28] awight, ^ [21:27:39] lolol [21:27:41] I mean *line [21:27:53] as in, can you send an urgent message when Shilad is missing from IRC [21:41:29] halfak: I may have given you the wrong deadline for NAACL [21:41:34] http://naacl2018.org/call_for_demo.html [21:41:48] “demo papers” are due <= Feb 24 [21:42:10] Oh—workshops were due Oct 22 [21:49:01] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-notice-collaboration: Deploy ORES filters to Simple Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182012#3987453 (10awight) [21:49:04] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-consensus-needed: Enable RecentChanges patrolling on English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143791#3987452 (10awight) [21:49:45] awight: Hey [21:50:42] Vermont: :) nice response time [21:50:51] I get emails every time it’s changed. [21:50:57] Do you think it’ll be put into place soon? [21:51:10] Vermont: FYI, I’m just compiling a list of wikis that we need to deploy to, ahead of having a conversation about how we’ll go about doing that. [21:51:16] The conversation is scheduled for this Friday [21:51:24] Ah. [21:51:30] There’s a question about who owns that part, unfortunately :-/ [21:51:40] Who owns what part? [21:52:38] awight: How is that question unfortunate? [21:53:17] The issue is that we tried to separate ownership of the ORES backend pieces, and the Special: pages such as RecentChanges. [21:53:37] Oh [21:53:41] What’s unfortunate is that, we had a preliminary agreement but team priorities shifted under our feet. [21:53:55] So now we need to renegotiate... [21:54:00] Sorry for the minutae :) [21:54:07] Nah it’s okay. [21:54:21] Thanks for your understanding. [21:54:22] As long as someday I can more easily find vandal edits on simple wiki, I’m good. [21:54:36] Ha. Should be yesterday AFAIC [21:54:36] Chenzw (op of the anti-vandal bot) hasn’t come back yet. [22:18:30] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Global-Collaboration, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: [Epic] Audit of pending ORES GUI deployments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187836#3987540 (10awight) [22:20:22] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: Deploy ORES Review Tool for Albanian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163008#3987562 (10awight) [22:20:24] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: Deploy ORES Review Tool on Romanian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156518#3987563 (10awight) [22:20:30] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10editquality-modeling, 10Spanish-Sites, 10artificial-intelligence: Deploy ORES review tool in es.wikibooks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145394#3987564 (10awight) [22:20:33] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10editquality-modeling, 10Spanish-Sites, 10artificial-intelligence: Deploy edit quality models for eswiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130279#3987566 (10awight) [22:20:35] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-consensus-needed: Enable RecentChanges patrolling on English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143791#3987565 (10awight) [22:20:37] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikidata, 10WMDE-Tech-Communication-Mentoring-And-Events, 10artificial-intelligence: Deploy item quality classification model for Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127470#3987567 (10awight) [22:20:38] halfak: Holy… [22:20:41] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Global-Collaboration, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: [Epic] Audit of pending ORES GUI deployments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187836#3987559 (10awight) [22:20:49] halfak: Can you give this list a quick review before Friday? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187836 [22:21:47] WTF. Are we really that far behind? Did the Collab team deploy to any of the wikis since we switched responsibility? [22:22:23] Just finished up my slides for tomorrow. That took more than I thought. I made a lot of new drawings. [22:22:49] ooo [22:23:27] Aha, Research Showcase. I’m there. [22:42:23] halfak: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127470 has some open dependencies, do you know if those are really done? [22:42:39] * awight squints [22:42:58] weird. Yeah, they’re grandchildren. [22:43:12] Looks like mess? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158430. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164994 [22:44:10] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Global-Collaboration, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES: [Epic] Audit of pending ORES GUI deployments - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187836#3987615 (10awight) [22:44:18] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-consensus-needed: Enable RecentChanges patrolling on English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143791#3987614 (10awight) [22:44:27] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-notice-collaboration: Deploy ORES filters to Simple Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182012#3987617 (10awight) [22:44:32] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Community-consensus-needed: Enable RecentChanges patrolling on English Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143791#2579046 (10awight) [22:53:00] halfak: Just noticed this; I’d be interested > JADE design discussion [22:58:56] halfak: You must be done for the day, but if not I wanted to get your suggestions about “JadeModel” vs. the injection cache. [22:59:25] awight, sorry. That's a really good question but I must run now to get some errands done. [22:59:32] o/ [22:59:37] Tomorrow is way less crazy [22:59:45] Let's talk in our AM :) [22:59:53] cool [23:00:49] halfak: This is a good place to drop comments, if you want to start there. https://github.com/wiki-ai/ores/compare/jade_data [23:48:39] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: Edit quality campaign for Serbian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178108#3987729 (10Ladsgroup) Sure :)