[03:12:01] PROBLEM - https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/ores-extension grafana alert on einsteinium is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/ores-extension is alerting: Failure rate alert. [03:13:01] RECOVERY - https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/ores-extension grafana alert on einsteinium is OK: OK: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/ores-extension is not alerting. [03:17:52] ^ I wonder what that was. [03:17:54] Hmmm. [11:01:52] (03CR) 10Legoktm: [C: 032] Member variables with type hints [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/415390 (owner: 10Reedy) [11:10:12] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Member variables with type hints [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/415390 (owner: 10Reedy) [11:10:42] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Member variables with type hints [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/415390 (owner: 10Reedy) [14:22:42] o/ [14:40:59] fwiw I’m working today. [14:41:51] halfak: Looks like you’re busy, but let me know ASAP about Data Justice, so I can get my foot in the door (or not). [14:43:15] o/ yup. At the doc. [14:43:49] awight: , did you send me an expense template? [14:43:54] yes, email [14:44:18] see you in a few hours, then! [14:45:03] I’m catching up with watching the Staff Community thing… [15:03:06] halfak: Great question about an employee advocate [15:07:04] lol and then he was on a bike century [15:55:53] \o/ [15:56:09] OK that all took longer than expected, but I managed to get a couple emails in :) [15:56:21] * halfak checks on things that need review. [15:57:31] lol ty, I’ll register now [15:58:00] Will be bothering you about the other confs as the dates come up—is it best to just fill out these travel templates to start the conversation? [16:00:54] I think the travel template is more where I can sign off officially. [16:01:05] And you can feel comfortable registering for the conf :) [16:01:39] :) yeah that had me on tenterhooks [16:01:52] Thanks for dropping the “registration ended” note into the etherpad! [16:02:04] w/o the UK-wide school strike, I would have missed it. [16:06:56] lol nice! Workers rights saves the day! [16:10:58] oops, that last one is missing costs [16:11:06] awight, where is websci again [16:11:07] ? [16:11:09] Oh ha. [16:11:15] AMS [16:11:32] oh dammit. Data Justice was missing the registration fee. 100 GBP [16:11:46] Submit a followup quick and I'll approve. [16:13:23] Wow. WebSci is expensive. [16:14:20] resent them both. [16:14:21] yah [16:14:29] there are options, lemme see: [16:14:36] https://websci18.webscience.org/index.php/registration/ [16:14:55] It includes 1 dinner and 4 lunches, which I subtracted from the per diem [16:15:08] I see 560 for registration [16:15:13] Oh. EUR [16:15:43] I’m also staying in AMS for a bit which saves a lot on flights, I suppose [17:08:49] Groovier: ping, the hangout is in progress :-) [17:21:02] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Packaging: Update ORES requirements to support revscoring 2.2.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188755#4018461 (10Halfak) [17:21:04] cd ../ [17:21:04] ls [17:21:07] lol [17:21:14] rm -rf / [17:23:14] nooo [17:23:21] copypasta bomb [17:36:10] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Security-Reviews: Security review for Extension:JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188308#4003289 (10Halfak) This task needs more info. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Security_Team/Security_reviews#Requesting_a_review [17:36:18] awight, ^ [17:36:38] ty [17:36:44] aha [17:37:09] (that should be added to the phab template...) [17:38:52] I just checked with security folks :) It's been a long time since we got a review for anything. [17:40:03] happy to keep editing this task until I see eyebrows raised [17:46:22] Lunch! [17:52:31] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Security-Reviews: Security review for Extension:JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188308#4018623 (10awight) [17:53:06] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Security-Reviews: Security review for Extension:JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188308#4003289 (10awight) [18:08:17] luch [18:53:44] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Wikimedia-Incident: Extension:ORES caused MW train rollback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182921#4018832 (10greg) [18:53:48] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter), 10MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-01-02 (1.31.0-wmf.15)), and 2 others: [wmf.12 -regression] ORES filters do not work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182936#4018830 (10greg) [18:53:50] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Wikimedia-Incident: Extension:ORES caused MW train rollback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182921#3838777 (10greg) This one look like no one ever came back after the fact to update. It's too far out from the situation for much debugging (almost 3... [18:55:30] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10Operations, 10Traffic, and 4 others: 503 spikes and resulting API slowness starting 18:45 October 26 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179156#4018842 (10greg) 05stalled>03Resolved a:03BBlack >>! In T179156#3782508, @BBlack wrote: > No, we never made an incident r... [18:57:00] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Regression, and 3 others: OresDamagingPref back-compatibility is logging exceptions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182354#4018850 (10greg) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Catrope >>! In T182354#3837012, @awight wrote: > @Johan Th... [20:03:29] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Packaging: Re-train models with revscoring 2.2.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188775#4019026 (10Halfak) [20:04:08] wiki-ai/ores#929 (revscoring-2.2 - 416f52c : halfak): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/ores/builds/348392416 [20:14:32] 10Scoring-platform-team: makefile generate makes impossible rules when no model is available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188777#4019071 (10Halfak) [20:54:18] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Add ORES wikis to the beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188779#4019130 (10awight) [20:54:31] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter): Add ORES wikis to the beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188779#4019140 (10awight) [20:55:10] RoanKattouw: Would be cool to have your opinion on this ^. I’m personally a devoted fan of having a beta testing area, but it’s curious that so few wikis are currently enabled there. [20:55:45] awight: I think that with ORES's growth this will eventually become impractical [20:55:55] You surely don't want all production wikis mirrored there won't you? :-) [20:56:11] besides beta cluster maintenance is rather scarce [20:56:20] puppet is almost broken everyday [20:56:22] Long-term I expect pretty much every top 50 wiki to have ORES installed [20:56:47] hmm [20:57:00] As long as we have multiple beta wikis that have ORES on them and some config variety between them. I don't think we need to have every single oen [20:57:17] So we’d just experiment with changes on a similar wiki, try it locally a bit, then go live eh? [20:57:21] mwdebug1002 ftw [20:59:13] Yeah mwdebug [20:59:26] At this point I've done enough ORES-to-new-wiki deployments that they're routine for me [20:59:35] :-) [20:59:44] OK cool, I’m happy to decline this beast. [20:59:56] Beta's main role here IMO is to catch breakage caused by software changes [21:00:08] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter): Add ORES wikis to the beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188779#4019144 (10awight) 05Open>03declined We're going to just test with similar wikis, then go live. [21:00:26] The thresholds will be hard to fake, but we can come up with a way to study that offline, perhaps? [21:00:39] Doesn’t mean much to look at beta edits, anyway [21:04:44] Well the research lab I'm working in just turned into a party. [21:05:01] Looks like I'm gonna get some code submitted and get the heck out of here [21:05:03] :| [21:05:10] :-) [21:05:20] running *away* from the party, though? [21:05:23] yup [21:05:28] lool [21:05:37] research… lab party. [21:05:39] sounds okay [21:05:44] Just learned a lot more about our templating strategy as I fixed a bug :D [21:05:55] oh cool. anything I can review? [21:06:28] I’ve been imagining I’d extract editquality-specific modules out of the CG package. [21:07:09] +1 [21:07:17] right on. [21:07:19] o/ [21:07:24] https://github.com/wiki-ai/editquality/pull/139/files [21:07:39] I'll tag it with a bug [21:07:41] gimme a sec [21:08:09] 10Scoring-platform-team: makefile generate makes impossible rules when no model is available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188777#4019172 (10Halfak) https://github.com/wiki-ai/editquality/pull/139 [21:08:32] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: makefile generate makes impossible rules when no model is available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188777#4019175 (10Halfak) [21:08:38] done [21:10:00] wiki-ai/editquality#155 (make_no_models_speak_no_lies - 0ccdee8 : Aaron Halfaker): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/editquality/builds/348421051 [21:14:59] wiki-ai/editquality#157 (simple_azwiki - 2e0486e : Aaron Halfaker): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/editquality/builds/348422841 [21:18:22] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Simplify azwiki's labeling campaign - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188781#4019191 (10Halfak) [21:18:27] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Simplify azwiki's labeling campaign - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188781#4019203 (10Halfak) https://github.com/wiki-ai/editquality/pull/140 [21:18:52] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Simplify azwiki's labeling campaign - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188781#4019204 (10Halfak) I've re-loaded the campaign so that it's just the revisions that "needs_review": true now. [21:29:15] \o/ [21:29:19] <3 awight [21:29:32] The party died down. Feeling it out. [21:34:26] that was fast! [21:34:33] Afterpartying already? [21:36:07] Seems to have just calmed down a little bit. [21:36:13] I think it's a prospective students thing. [21:38:55] I can't remember why I started working on editquality to begin with. [21:38:56] hmmm [21:39:02] Oh yeah! https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188775 [21:42:34] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Packaging: Re-train models with revscoring 2.2.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188775#4019286 (10Halfak) Started a long running job on stat1005.eqiad.wmnet [21:42:48] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10articlequality-modeling, 10draftquality-modeling, 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Re-train models with revscoring 2.2.0 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188775#4019288 (10Halfak) [21:42:52] oh cool, so you’re accidentally verifying all the templating work :) [21:44:50] yup :) [21:45:05] Which is what lead me to fixing bugs in the first place :D [21:45:12] OK now actually changing locations [21:45:12] o/ [21:47:45] o/ [21:48:03] I’m messing with an “extended abstract” for one of the WebSci workshops. [21:48:13] Pretty scary, cos I think they might be expecting a full paper. [21:49:51] halfak: wrt. your patch, on second thought I’m imagining we’d be better off omitting e.g. az_models from the list at the top, rather than adding an empty rule. [21:50:09] That way you can scan the list at the top and see which wikis actually have models. [23:25:52] (03PS1) 10Legoktm: Use SPDX 3.0 license identifier [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/416004 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183858) [23:27:28] (03CR) 10Legoktm: [C: 04-1] "Somehow this extension is GPL-2.0-or-later, GPL-3.0-or-later, and GPL-3.0-only :<" [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/416004 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183858) (owner: 10Legoktm) [23:28:49] (03PS1) 10Legoktm: Use SPDX 3.0 license identifier [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/416036 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183858) [23:29:57] (03CR) 10Legoktm: [C: 04-1] "This extension is supposed to be GPL-3.0-or-later." [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/416036 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183858) (owner: 10Legoktm)