[08:09:49] <saurabhbatra>	 awight hey! you around?
[08:12:12] <saurabhbatra>	 whenever you see this, can you see https://github.com/saurabhbatra96/wmf-samplecodes#classifier-comparisions
[08:12:33] <saurabhbatra>	 Gradient Boost and Random Forest are performing wonderfully!
[08:36:12] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Take advantage of word2vec signal in all models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197007#4278170 (10Aklapper)
[09:35:06] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Fundraising-Backlog: Machine Learning for Fraud Detection - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190523#4278392 (10awight)
[10:35:27] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Take advantage of word2vec signal in all models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197007#4278607 (10awight) @Aklapper thanks!
[10:37:53] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10articlequality-modeling, 10Patch-For-Review, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test article quality model for euwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171119#4278623 (10awight) Ping #global-collaboration, I thought you might want to know that this exis...
[11:01:59] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team: [Epic] Use LFS for large ORES files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197096#4278718 (10awight)
[11:02:12] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team: [Epic] Use LFS for large ORES files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197096#4278729 (10awight)
[11:02:14] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Consider storing all files in datasets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192617#4278728 (10awight)
[11:03:15] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team: Migrate models to LFS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197097#4278732 (10awight)
[11:06:13] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Huggle, 10JADE: Use JADE as a repository for ORES counterexamples - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197098#4278749 (10awight)
[11:17:52] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Scalability concerns creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4278789 (10awight) Adding onto @Halfak's comments, I agree that social convention seems to be the best way to protect against runaway JADE usage.  Specifi...
[11:18:58] <awight>	 Amir1: ^ it would be great if you could weigh in with your concerns, if you still think we shouldn't deploy?
[11:19:24] <awight>	 Aaron has me convinced that we have to rely on social conventions.
[11:19:45] <saurabhbatra>	 awight, got a minute?
[11:20:13] <awight>	 saurabhbatra: hey yeah!
[11:20:30] <saurabhbatra>	 so I'm writing the cross-validation code right now
[11:20:56] <saurabhbatra>	 was wondering how do I get an average of the PR curves?
[11:21:08] <awight>	 ooh interesting, I'm not sure it's in there
[11:21:25] <saurabhbatra>	 yup, could not find it in the sklearn docs
[11:21:57] <awight>	 Here's an answer, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26587759/plotting-precision-recall-curve-when-using-cross-validation-in-scikit-learn
[11:22:57] <saurabhbatra>	 yeah I did have a look at this
[11:22:58] <awight>	 Might also be a nice format to plot all of the P-R curves, to give an idea of the error magnitudes
[11:23:40] <saurabhbatra>	 so I just combine the data from all the iterations right and plot the curve using it right
[11:24:00] <awight>	 I guess so... not sure what this can be used for, though
[11:24:15] <awight>	 If you want the mean, you might as well plot the P-R curve of the final model, right?
[11:24:46] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Scalability concerns creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4278810 (10awight) @Ladsgroup it would be great if you could weigh in with your concerns, if you still think we shouldn't deploy?
[11:27:50] <awight>	 awight -> awight_mob, going mobile for an hour
[11:29:45] <saurabhbatra>	 I'll have a look see and get back to you
[12:04:15] <halfak_>	 Hi Amir1 and awight_mob:. We discussed moving today's meeting at the sync
[12:04:23] <halfak_>	 But I forgot to actually move it. 
[12:12:32] <Amir1>	 halfak_: to when actually?
[12:16:29] <Amir1>	 halfak_: It's now collides with Technical advice IRC meeting in which I'm the host :(
[12:17:51] <halfak_>	 Damn
[12:18:18] <halfak_>	 I don't see that in your calendar
[12:19:07] <halfak_>	 Amir1: are you sure it overlaps?
[12:19:42] <Amir1>	 halfak_: It's in WMDE account
[12:19:50] <Amir1>	 did you pull up both?
[12:22:47] <halfak>	 Arg.  I guess not. 
[12:23:16] <halfak>	 We could meet an hour later.  That might be hard for awight. 
[12:23:47] <Amir1>	 :(
[12:29:27] <halfak>	 Amir1, I need to leave now for my Doc's apt.  Can you coordinate with awight to figure out what will work for him. 
[12:29:57] <halfak>	 Either meet without me, or maybe push the meeting back one more hour if awight can make it. 
[12:30:00] <halfak>	 Either is OK. 
[12:30:03] <halfak>	 Sorry for the trouble 
[12:32:42] <Amir1>	 Sure!
[12:53:31] <awight>	 saurabhbatra: back again.  Any progress towards graphing question?
[12:53:48] <saurabhbatra>	 yup, it's done
[12:54:25] <saurabhbatra>	 just clubbed the data for all the folds together and used it to plot the final curve
[12:55:35] <saurabhbatra>	 none of the graphs actually changed so I guess we can safely say we're not overfitting
[12:56:36] <saurabhbatra>	 going to start work on logistic regression next, let's see what that gives us!
[13:04:02] <awight>	 Fantastic!
[13:04:44] <halfak_>	 Ooh what is saurabhbatra working on?
[13:04:59] * halfak_ types from doctor's office
[13:05:33] <Vermont>	 Hey halfak_
[13:05:41] <Vermont>	 Long time no chat
[13:05:56] <halfak_>	 Hey Vermont
[13:06:14] <halfak_>	 I might go afk at any moment, fyi
[13:06:31] <Vermont>	 oh, k
[13:06:59] <Vermont>	 Well, ORES doesn’t seem to be enabled on simplewiki
[13:07:06] <Vermont>	 Or I just can’t find out how to enable it for me :/
[13:07:34] <halfak_>	 Wasn't it enabled before?  Did something change?
[13:08:51] <Vermont>	 I don’t think it was ever enabled tbh
[13:08:53] <Vermont>	 I just didn’t notice :/
[13:09:58] <Vermont>	 It would be very useful for RC...
[13:10:08] <awight>	 halfak_: saurabhbatra has been doing some great work on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190523 , to bring donation fraud detection in-house.
[13:11:04] <awight>	 Funny story, the WMF almost got knocked into a punitive rate schedule for credit card processing a few years ago, after crossing some quite low fraud threshold during our busiest month.
[13:12:09] <awight>	 Come to think of it, the anomaly detection work might be relevant to the edit quality modeling, we should investigate that.
[13:12:42] <awight>	 Vermont: I can take a look, thank you for letting us know!
[13:12:59] <Vermont>	 Thanks.
[13:13:21] <Vermont>	 I used to have a script in my userspace that Halfak told me to put in there, and that worked for ORES (using the English model)
[13:13:56] <awight>	 The task says it's done, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182012 -- I'll try it on the live site in case it's just our settings.
[13:14:05] <Vermont>	 Alright thanks.
[13:14:45] <awight>	 Vermont: I see the filters and they work for me.
[13:15:04] <awight>	 Vermont: the ORES preferences are actually sort of tricky, you might be hitting an edge case here
[13:15:21] <awight>	 considering that you're in the rare position of having tried things before they were deployed...
[13:15:26] <Vermont>	 How would I enable them?
[13:15:38] <awight>	 lessee...
[13:16:03] <awight>	 Vermont: my settings -> new changes
[13:16:17] <awight>	 Do you have "Hide the improved version of Recent Changes" checked?  It should not be.
[13:17:09] <Vermont>	 Actually, I had the one to highlight in RC off...
[13:17:14] <Vermont>	 So, it worked.
[13:17:19] <awight>	 interesting
[13:17:22] <Vermont>	 Thanks for your help! Sorry for being an idiot :/
[13:17:25] <awight>	 Not at all!
[13:17:29] <awight>	 It's working now?  That's great!
[13:17:34] <Vermont>	 Yep :D
[13:18:00] <awight>	 great news, and thanks for bringing the question here.  I'm sure other people are going to run into this...
[13:22:51] <awight>	 Vermont: I'm trying to write a FAQ entry, but not entirely sure which checkbox you found was interfering.  What changes did you make?
[13:23:02] <awight>	 There's a chance that simply opening and saving preferences might have fixed it.
[13:33:41] <Vermont>	 oh
[13:33:51] <Vermont>	 Let me check
[13:34:30] <Vermont>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Xm2T8zj6/IMG_0179.PNG
[13:34:41] <Vermont>	 “Highlight likely problems...”
[13:34:59] <Vermont>	 I had it unchecked.
[13:36:29] <awight>	 Strange--would you mind unchecking again and seeing if RC still works?
[13:36:41] <awight>	 AFIAK, it shouldn't be necessary to have that setting
[13:36:46] <awight>	 those are all deprecated
[13:40:19] <Amir1>	 awight: hey
[13:40:44] <awight>	 holla!
[13:41:27] <Amir1>	 awight: buenos dias, is it okay if we push the staff meeting for one hour?
[13:41:52] <awight>	 Amir1: until when?  7pm CEST?
[13:42:06] <Amir1>	 yup
[13:42:07] <awight>	 err I guess that would be 6pm
[13:42:16] <awight>	 hehe now I'm confused
[13:42:43] <Amir1>	 in Berlin time, from 18:00 to 19:00
[13:42:44] <Amir1>	 :D
[13:42:55] <Amir1>	 (I'm lazy I know)
[13:43:08] <awight>	 hardly lazy
[13:43:22] <awight>	 ah yeah I think I may be able to make that time work
[13:49:33] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10TechCom, and 2 others: Deploy JADE extension to production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183381#4279219 (10awight)
[13:49:50] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10MW-1.32-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-06-12 (1.32.0-wmf.8)), 10Patch-For-Review: Implement multi-judgment and endorsement schema for Extension:JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194219#4279220 (10awight) 05Open>03Resolved
[13:49:52] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10TechCom, and 2 others: Deploy JADE extension to production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183381#3851603 (10awight)
[13:54:37] <Amir1>	 Great!
[13:58:52] <halfak>	 Hey!  I'm back
[13:59:08] <halfak>	 Did the meeting happen or did we decide to reschedule?
[13:59:19] <halfak>	 o/ awight Amir1 
[14:02:20] <awight>	 ack, headed into meeting
[14:11:16] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10articlequality-modeling, 10Patch-For-Review, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test article quality model for euwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171119#4279325 (10Theklan) >>! In T171119#4277181, @Ragesoss wrote: > Thanks for the ping. @Theklan,...
[14:37:11] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter): Enable srwiki edit quality filters in RecentChanges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197012#4279410 (10JTannerWMF) a:03Catrope
[14:37:26] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10articlequality-modeling, 10Patch-For-Review, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test article quality model for euwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171119#4279413 (10awight) >>>! In T171119#4278623, @awight wrote: >> Ping #global-collaboration, I th...
[14:37:50] <Vermont>	 awight: sorry for the late response. When I uncheck that, it is not highlighted in RC.
[14:38:22] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter): Enable bswiki edit quality features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197010#4279420 (10JTannerWMF) a:03Catrope
[14:38:31] <awight>	 Vermont: ooh how strange.  Okay, thanks for the report!
[14:39:41] <awight>	 Amir1: I can't really tell if techcom will discuss the JADE questions today...  Meanwhile, would you mind putting your thoughts into the task?
[14:41:19] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10articlequality-modeling, 10Patch-For-Review, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test article quality model for euwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171119#4279436 (10Theklan) Ok, so my guess is that is not possible yet to bulk-extract this informati...
[14:46:12] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Wikilabels, 10articlequality-modeling, 10Patch-For-Review, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test article quality model for euwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171119#4279464 (10awight) >>! In T171119#4279436, @Theklan wrote: > Ok, so my guess is that is not po...
[14:53:06] <awight>	 o/ gtg, hopefully back in time for our meeting
[15:57:58] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10ORES, 10WMF-Design, 10WikimediaUI Style Guide, and 2 others: Give a new look to the home page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196580#4279883 (10Volker_E)
[16:57:39] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Extension:JADE scalability concerns due to creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4280214 (10awight)
[16:57:55] <awight>	 Amir1: halfak: ^ if you don't mind taking a look
[16:58:59] <halfak>	 "JADE meta-judgements"?
[16:59:20] <awight>	 judgments about judgments.
[16:59:23] <awight>	 lemme take that out.
[17:00:25] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Extension:JADE scalability concerns due to creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4280229 (10awight)
[17:00:26] <awight>	 does that work?
[17:01:19] <awight>	 It's sort of an eccentric point to even make, I think I'm blinded by the programmerly neatness of infinite uroboros
[17:02:13] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Extension:JADE scalability concerns due to creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4280234 (10Halfak)
[17:02:14] <awight>	 took it out entirely
[17:02:15] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Extension:JADE scalability concerns due to creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4280237 (10awight)
[17:02:18] <awight>	 uh, oh
[17:02:23] <halfak>	 Woops.  I just saved my edit over yours :( 
[17:02:24] <halfak>	 Sorry
[17:02:32] <awight>	 I think I won actually
[17:02:42] <halfak>	 Arg
[17:02:45] <halfak>	 I'll get it. 
[17:02:46] <awight>	 I hate this software
[17:02:58] <awight>	 ok I'm hands-off
[17:03:35] <halfak>	 Is degraded performance of the page table the primary concern here?
[17:03:39] <halfak>	 Or is it storage
[17:03:42] <halfak>	 I think it's storage
[17:03:47] <awight>	 I think it's performance but don't know
[17:03:49] <awight>	 just guessing
[17:04:11] <halfak>	 The indexes shouldn't struggle to manage trillions of rows
[17:04:17] <halfak>	 btrees are log scaled
[17:04:35] <halfak>	 So you'd need to have a billion billion billion before it would be one cycle slower. 
[17:04:50] <halfak>	 Or maybe just a billion billion
[17:04:53] <halfak>	 But you get what I mean
[17:04:55] <awight>	 In practice, I see mysql eat dirt around 1M rows
[17:04:59] <awight>	 here's a thing: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1276/how-big-can-a-mysql-database-get-before-performance-starts-to-degrade
[17:05:14] <awight>	 anyway, yeah we can leave out the consequence part and just explain the immediate impact
[17:05:42] <halfak>	 "The physical database size doesn't matter. The number of records don't matter."
[17:06:01] <awight>	 "The most important scalability factor is RAM. If the indexes of your tables fit into memory"...
[17:06:04] <awight>	 some shit
[17:06:08] <awight>	 we don't have to care in this case
[17:06:18] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Extension:JADE scalability concerns due to creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4280245 (10Halfak)
[17:06:31] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Extension:JADE scalability concerns due to creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4260809 (10Halfak)
[17:06:47] <halfak>	 Oh yes.  But revision is WAY bigger on indexes 
[17:07:19] <halfak>	 I think that, in the worst case scenario, we have mostly 1-2 revisions per page. 
[17:08:06] <halfak>	 Maybe I'm missing something about why page is so scary.  I'd like to see that explained. 
[17:08:39] <awight>	 Me too, but I'm just working from the POV that I should care about proportions.
[17:08:53] <awight>	 If we add 5% to a table, meh.  If we add 300%, something is going to burst.
[17:09:06] <awight>	 Not well founded in facts.
[17:09:24] <awight>	 Amir1: ^ do you have insight into what's wrong with the page table?
[17:11:20] <awight>	 Anyway, we're talking about doubling the revision table in those worst-case numbers, so that's clearly not okay.
[17:12:46] <awight>	 halfak: Thanks for the task clarifications, +1 on all.  I'm going to edit the description a bit more, if you're out of it?
[17:14:45] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10Operations, 10User-Joe: Extension:JADE scalability concerns due to creating a page per revision - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196547#4280307 (10awight)
[17:14:49] <awight>	 Boldly risked another edit conflict.
[17:15:59] <Amir1>	 also Daniel mentioned that we can have jade pages on edits that happen in jade pages, it's easily can turn into recursive match
[17:16:47] <awight>	 Amir1: we do want to support that, but in moderation.  The problem is with infinite recursion, nothing else, right?
[17:17:27] <Amir1>	 yeah, I don't think this will be a big deal though. We can leave it to community 
[17:17:29] <awight>	 I just took a description of that issue out of the task, I think it's just a distracting subset of the main problem.
[17:17:32] <awight>	 +1
[17:17:45] <awight>	 I was totally distracted myself, cos recursion is fun.
[17:18:11] <awight>	 I stopped myself from writing another paragraph about how the previous paragraph was an example of debilitating meta-judgment :p
[17:21:48] <awight>	 aww, a quote I love has been debunked.  https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/23/good-idea/
[17:28:23] <halfak>	 awight, sorry I didn't say so but I'm done editing
[17:28:56] <halfak>	 Amir1, I don't think it's recursive in a scary way. 
[17:29:06] <halfak>	 Auto-recursion is scary.  Human-directed recursion is not
[17:29:31] <halfak>	 Example, let me tell you a story.  I will do a depth-first search of what I think is interesting ;) 
[17:31:17] <halfak>	 Running out to lunch
[17:31:17] <halfak>	 o/
[18:01:47] <Amir1>	 afk for dinner, will be back soon
[18:01:49] <Amir1>	 sushiiiiiii
[19:52:23] <awight>	 halfak: Probably fine to deploy T196448 now?
[19:52:24] <stashbot>	 T196448: Automatically redirect users to the correct category in the UploadWizard (Wikimedia Commons) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196448
[19:52:36] <awight>	 * T196468
[19:52:36] <stashbot>	 T196468: Catch a specific new badword in English - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196468
[19:52:53] * awight butters up deployment keyboard
[20:06:18] <halfak>	 +1 awight 
[20:06:20] <halfak>	 sorry was on call
[20:15:25] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Performance: Try to increase ORES deployment parallelism - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197180#4281166 (10awight)
[20:16:05] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team: [Epic] Use LFS for large ORES files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197096#4281179 (10awight)
[20:16:08] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10Performance: Try to increase ORES deployment parallelism - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197180#4281178 (10awight)
[20:16:51] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Consider committing all non-private datasets to the repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192617#4281193 (10awight)
[21:12:14] <halfak>	 I'm going AFK for a bit.  I'll be back in 2 hours for a call with the googles. 
[21:12:49] <paladox>	 google is calling you?
[21:27:25] <awight>	 I think that was literal, yeah
[21:35:29] <awight>	 halAFK: Quite a nasty deployment artifact.
[21:37:18] <awight>	 I'm counting worker processes...
[21:42:10] <awight>	 they are there.  I wish I had an explanation for the drop in requests processed.
[21:46:49] <awight>	 Oh, I see--precaching responses have completely stopped on codfw.
[21:49:13] <awight>	 Aaand, we're back to normal.  I don't know what that was.
[21:50:36] <paladox>	 awight how long are you in the netherlands for? :)
[21:50:44] <paladox>	 and lol @ smell heh
[21:51:30] <awight>	 paladox: a few more weeks--are you based nearby / visiting?
[21:51:42] <paladox>	 awight i am accross the pond
[21:51:44] <paladox>	 the uk!
[21:52:02] <paladox>	 well only across from netherlands, i am near london.
[21:52:11] <awight>	 ah that's what I thought.  I got to visit Cardiff recently, it was surprisingly beautiful
[21:52:20] <paladox>	 heh
[21:52:25] <paladox>	 i went to lands end
[21:52:30] <awight>	 I was expecting something more like a Dickens scene
[21:52:38] <Hauskatze>	 awight: you should come visit Spain sometime
[21:52:40] <paladox>	 but also cut my self running on rocks (on the beach)
[21:52:43] <paladox>	 heh
[21:53:53] <awight>	 Hauskatze: :D I also got to visit Catalonia recently, I loved it...
[21:53:56] <paladox>	 awight did you see the white cliffs of dover?
[21:54:24] <awight>	 noo just downtown
[21:54:33] <paladox>	 awight downtown?
[21:54:38] <paladox>	 which city?
[21:54:41] <paladox>	 or town
[21:54:44] <paladox>	 exeter?
[21:54:51] <Hauskatze>	 Barcelona is too noisy and crowded, as Madrid
[21:54:52] <paladox>	 plymouth, southampton
[21:54:54] <paladox>	 dover
[21:55:16] <Hauskatze>	 big city problems I guess
[21:55:25] <paladox>	 heh
[21:55:34] <paladox>	 i like cambridge
[21:55:38] <paladox>	 really nice city center
[21:55:42] <paladox>	 shops i mean
[21:55:45] <paladox>	 john lewis is huge
[21:55:45] <Hauskatze>	 analytica :P
[21:55:52] <paladox>	 lol
[21:56:04] <paladox>	 milton keynes has a nice shopping center
[21:56:11] <paladox>	 but haven't been there in yearrrrrs
[21:56:15] <Hauskatze>	 i iz in ur facebook stealin' ur data
[21:56:19] <paladox>	 yet i only live 30 mins from it
[21:56:21] <paladox>	 lol
[21:56:28] <paladox>	 Hauskatze nothing much to steal from me
[21:56:31] * Hauskatze has never been to the UK, got to visit sometime
[21:56:42] <Hauskatze>	 neither from me, I have no facebook
[21:56:48] <paladox>	 except my profile picture (which is like when i was 12-13 (i am alot older now))
[21:56:53] <Hauskatze>	 no twitter, no instagram, no nothing
[21:57:06] <Hauskatze>	 but I have a Phabricator profile lol
[21:57:09] <paladox>	 i have only fb
[21:57:36] <paladox>	 oh and it does have my current location
[21:57:40] <paladox>	 but no mobile numbers
[21:57:47] <paladox>	 no way am i giving fb my phone number
[21:57:57] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10ORES, 10Release-Engineering-Team: Document: ORES deployment caused some sort of downtime - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197191#4281401 (10awight)
[21:58:24] <paladox>	 Hauskatze you should visit the uk sometime!
[21:58:28] <paladox>	 i am going into london
[21:58:31] <paladox>	 in august
[21:59:11] <Hauskatze>	 Yeah well, I'd like to
[21:59:17] <paladox>	 :)
[21:59:19] <awight>	 lol /me adjusts tin foil
[21:59:32] <paladox>	 lol
[21:59:45] <paladox>	 awight tin foil?
[21:59:52] <Hauskatze>	 I wanted to visit NYC as well
[22:00:16] <Hauskatze>	 buy an appartment in the Upper East Side of Manhattan, etc.
[22:00:30] <paladox>	 i like living in the uk :)
[22:00:45] <paladox>	 but preferably near a big city but currently live in a large town
[22:00:49] <paladox>	 that's gone bankrupt
[22:00:58] <Hauskatze>	 I don't dislike living where I am t.b.h.
[22:01:12] <paladox>	 Hauskatze spains capital?
[22:01:17] <Hauskatze>	 Nope :)
[22:01:48] <Hauskatze>	 Madrid is good if you don't live in the center
[22:01:52] <paladox>	 Hauskatze barcelona?
[22:02:06] <Hauskatze>	 traffic is horrible, noise... and expensive
[22:02:09] <paladox>	 london is a huge place
[22:02:15] <paladox>	 but did you know the city is small
[22:02:16] <Hauskatze>	 paladox: neither
[22:02:21] <paladox>	 but london is large
[22:02:30] <Hauskatze>	 the city of london is just one square Km
[22:02:38] <paladox>	 heh
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[22:02:41] <paladox>	 yeh
[22:02:48] <Hauskatze>	 but has their own police dept
[22:03:00] <Hauskatze>	 the greater London has 'the met'
[22:03:00] <paladox>	 all countys have there own policy dept
[22:03:22] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Consider committing all non-private datasets to the repos - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192617#4281419 (10awight)
[22:03:22] <paladox>	 like mine does!
[22:03:23] <paladox>	 oh i see what you mean now
[22:03:45] <paladox>	 the met have the authority where i live
[22:03:51] <paladox>	 as we are not a federal state
[22:03:57] <Hauskatze>	 In Scotland I think they reunified everything in Police Scotland
[22:04:16] <paladox>	 scottish yard
[22:04:22] <Hauskatze>	 In Spain we have National Police for urban areas and Guardia Civil for rural areas
[22:04:24] <paladox>	 i have no idea why they have that in london
[22:04:52] <Hauskatze>	 + some cities have municipal police forces for traffic and municipal ordinances enforcement
[22:05:06] <paladox>	 heh
[22:05:18] <Hauskatze>	 and some autonomous communities have their own police forces, but only 5 out of 17 do have them
[22:05:22] <paladox>	 we have
[22:05:22] <paladox>	 http://www.northants.police.uk
[22:05:33] <Hauskatze>	 y'know, it costs money
[22:05:58] <paladox>	 heh yeh
[22:06:02] * awight stumbles away and hides from all polices and policies
[22:06:09] <paladox>	 i think the govement funds ours
[22:06:45] <Hauskatze>	 I read at Wikipedia that the Met has authority through the whole UK on certain cases but couldn't find on which basis.
[22:07:02] <Hauskatze>	 in any case, it's late so /me out
[22:07:05] <paladox>	 Hauskatze yeh  they
[22:07:06] <paladox>	  do
[22:07:16] <paladox>	 same goes for police northampton have the authority in london
[22:07:23] <paladox>	 yet they doint actually police that city
[22:07:31] <paladox>	 it's because we are not a federal state
[23:29:15] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current): [Epic] Use LFS for large ORES files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197096#4281554 (10awight)
[23:29:31] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10ORES: Take advantage of word2vec signal in all models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197007#4281555 (10awight)
[23:30:24] <wikibugs>	 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10ORES: Take advantage of word2vec signal in all models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197007#4275813 (10awight)