[01:03:56] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: [Spec] Use `reverted` models in ORES review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146378 (10MMiller_WMF) Thanks, @Ladsgroup. That makes sense. So like I was saying before, we a... [08:49:05] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Bad-Words-Detection-System, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Add language support for galician - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201142 (10Elisardojm) [09:04:41] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Build article quality model for Galician Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201146 (10Elisardojm) [09:12:22] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-Core-Tests, 10MediaWiki-extensions-MultimediaViewer, 10MobileFrontend, and 9 others: Audit tests/selenium/LocalSettings.php file aiming at possibly deprecating the feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199939 (10hashar) Thanks @Krinkle as usual you wrote a nice s... [09:44:23] o/ [09:44:28] happy friday [09:49:26] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: [Spec] Use `reverted` models in ORES review tool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146378 (10Ladsgroup) Yes, You can find the list in https://tools.wmflabs.org/ores-support-checkl... [10:19:48] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10revscoring, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: Rewrite scoring libraries to replace pywikibase with mwbase - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194758 (10Ladsgroup) https://github.com/mediawiki-utilities/python-mwbase/pull/6 [11:12:49] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-Patrolling, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Patroller, and 2 others: Enable RC patrolling on trwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140475 (10Ladsgroup) I want to remove this from our board, given that RC filters don't take into account patrolle... [11:20:38] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: [Investigate] ORES worker threads shouldn't use Redis connection pool - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174403 (10Ladsgroup) [11:20:50] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Celery task pool doesn't degrade nicely. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175875 (10Ladsgroup) [11:21:01] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Tasks should not be marked permanently revoked due to high system load - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175860 (10Ladsgroup) [11:21:16] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Send error logs to logstash - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168921 (10Ladsgroup) [11:30:16] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: NLTK utilities for Azerbaijani - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102334 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open>03Resolved Azerbaijani now has been added to nltk stopwords: https://github.com/nltk/nltk_data/commit/74f95d8602c81c1b90418cba43bd4ad0ed55d8c2 [11:34:30] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels, 10editquality-modeling, 10User-revi, 10artificial-intelligence: Complete editquality campaign for Korean Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161627 (10Ladsgroup) It's moving forward and only 3k labels left: http://labels.wmflabs.org/stats/kowiki/50 That's... [11:34:43] wooooo [11:35:17] So can I dance? /dance [11:36:42] <3 [11:39:29] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Add indonesian stemmer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141441 (10Ladsgroup) The data is incompatible license-wise: CC-BY-NC-SA. [11:56:20] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Investigate whether Python regex is faster when non-capturing, use consistently. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169846 (10Ladsgroup) [11:57:06] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10Technical-Debt: ores-wmflabs-deploy and ores production deploy repos should share a common ancestor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171014 (10Ladsgroup) [11:57:40] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Investigate why revscoring extract hangs on MacOS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193514 (10Ladsgroup) [13:13:45] o/ Amir1 [13:13:50] just got 0.1.2 in pypi [13:13:59] (mwbase) [13:13:59] halfak: thanks! [13:14:09] I will change the PR in revscoring [13:14:28] What a serious pain in a butt and I ended up going with your solution anyway! [13:21:59] :D [13:22:06] I go with easy solutions :P [13:26:17] afk for lunch [13:26:20] will be back soon [13:32:22] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Add indonesian stemmer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141441 (10Halfak) 05Open>03declined Too bad. [14:11:28] back now [14:20:04] halfak: It passes now \o/ https://github.com/wiki-ai/revscoring/pull/406 [14:20:54] Great! Remind me again why you're not doing the whole set in this PR. [14:21:06] Are there some things that are more complicated to do in mwbase? [14:21:24] wiki-ai/revscoring#1518 (mwbase3 - ae09220 : Amir Sarabadani): The build was fixed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/revscoring/builds/411762255 [14:21:39] halfak: it basically a lot of work needed to get it compatible [14:21:47] not on mwbase, on revscoring [14:27:06] also we have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:ORES/Vandalism_patterns [14:27:25] I want to turn these to features [14:38:22] Amir1, I might take a pass at mwbase --> revscoring today. OK if I work from your branch? [14:38:50] sure, in the mean time I spend some time to improve wikidata features [14:39:00] is there anything else I can pick up? Beside pool counter [14:40:48] Re. the time-to-revert. I want random samples of time2revert for a wide sample of ORES-enabled wikis [14:41:12] Sample 100k reverts before and 100k reverts after the deployment/enabling date. [14:41:18] And I'll do the stats/plots :) [14:43:49] okay [15:17:13] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE, 10Design: JADE UI should provide an explanation of the target ORES score - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181327 (10Harej) Wouldn't this be an ORES feature rather than a JADE feature? [15:17:18] Just scheduled an invited talk in Chicago on Nov 2nd. It's that season again. [15:17:46] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE, 10Design: JADE UI should provide an explanation of the target ORES score - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181327 (10Halfak) Agreed. [15:35:21] harej, seems to me we should have ORES contain two distinct UIs. (1) a reference scoring UI, and (2) a model information UI. [15:35:35] In (1), we can include things that look like prediction explanations. [15:35:48] But I'm not sure I like tying those directly to (1). [15:35:59] because there will be a lot of interesting options for people to experiment with. [15:36:18] Maybe we can instead provide a convenient set of links to external explanation UIs. [15:36:52] I think of the ORES-explanation concept as a totally separate feature from the current recent changes annotation one [15:36:57] Like I would treat it as a project onto itself [15:37:32] Is this something that could be done purely in JavaScript or would we rely on a third-party engine? [15:48:14] wiki-ai/editquality#359 (more_wikidata_features - fb52707 : Amir Sarabadani): The build failed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/editquality/builds/411800469 [16:01:15] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: Improve features for wikibase vandalism detection model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194737 (10Ladsgroup) First pass: https://github.com/wiki-ai/editquality/pull/168 [16:02:34] wiki-ai/editquality#361 (more_wikidata_features - e836317 : Amir Sarabadani): The build was fixed. https://travis-ci.org/wiki-ai/editquality/builds/411805784 [16:15:27] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: Improve features for wikibase vandalism detection model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194737 (10Halfak) {{merged}} [16:15:28] 10[4] 04https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:merged [16:15:55] harej, when i say "reference scoring UI", I'm not talking about something that runs on recent changes. [16:16:06] I'm talking about something that simply let's you exercise ORES. [16:16:34] I feel like anything that is a task-oriented tool (where the task isn't 'explore what ORES does') is out of our scope. [16:24:45] Right. A visual way to explore ORES would be very nice. [16:25:20] We have a minimal version now at ores.wikimedia.org/ui [16:25:26] It simply lets you click to score. [16:25:36] It's not the best *browser* [16:25:48] And it doesn't let you experiment with feature injection or anything like that. [16:31:28] the ui needs lots of love [16:32:17] I wanted to rewrite the whole thing with react but the library containing wikimedia ui components is really out-dated [16:48:49] halfak: It's analysis nlwiki [17:21:05] Thanks Amir1. nlwiki sounds great :) [17:21:18] I;m heading out for the day. Today is a half-day for me. [17:21:28] Amir1, I made some progress on the mwbase stuff but nothing to review right now :D [17:21:37] o/ Have a good weekend [17:23:45] halfak: you too [17:30:13] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Design: ORES logo should be replaced - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193670 (10Harej) p:05Triage>03Lowest [17:31:44] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Growth-Team, 10ORES, 10StructuredDiscussions: Implement "orientation" for Flow's Structured Discussion revisions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177245 (10Harej) [17:32:03] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Analyze the extent of the bias of damage detection models against anons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131668 (10Harej) [18:20:53] I'm done for the day o/ [18:32:30] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Documentation: Docs on how to install ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170506 (10Harej) [18:33:13] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Dogfooding ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195239 (10Harej) p:05Triage>03Lowest [18:50:33] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES: Integrate ORES logging config into the app config scheme - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179522 (10Harej) p:05Triage>03Lowest [18:54:07] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10Services (watching): ORES returns 200 for timed out scores - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198819 (10Harej) p:05Triage>03Normal [18:54:17] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10User-Zppix: Github irc notifications are not working - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181894 (10Harej) p:05Triage>03Low [19:04:45] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10Patch-For-Review: Consistent TimeoutErrors when using Celery 4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T179524 (10Harej) p:05Triage>03High [19:05:09] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Operations, 10Wikimedia-Incident: Celery manager implodes horribly if Redis goes down - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181632 (10Harej) p:05Normal>03High [19:58:27] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Operations, 10Wikimedia-Incident: Celery manager implodes horribly if Redis goes down - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181632 (10awight) @Harej Thanks for the bump, this scares me too. [21:28:38] hey