[01:02:02] o/ [01:04:11] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Multi-Content-Revisions, 10ORES, 10Epic: MCR support in ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195779 (10Tgr) [02:37:11] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10JADE, 10WMF-Communications: Blog about JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183200 (10Niharika) Ah. Okay. Not CommTech then. [09:46:17] o/ [11:16:28] My favourite comment of the day: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181658#3797302 [11:37:45] wikimedia/ores#1033 (logstash - 1e3f1f2 : Amir Sarabadani): The build was broken. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/ores/builds/436585160 [12:17:42] akosiaris: around? https://logstash-beta.wmflabs.org/goto/d2ffa867c3b57beab2be516bb730ee8f [12:31:19] This is better [12:31:20] https://logstash-beta.wmflabs.org/goto/4764adfa48188f8b9ba224d4648678a4 [12:40:02] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10PoolCounter: Poolcounter lock time spike - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205976 (10Ladsgroup) Yes, it's a feature. It's the way it throttles more than five parallel connections at the same time. Regarding "measure poolcounter performance independent of rate limiting":... [13:07:33] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration: Cleanup draftquality data as pages drop off the PageTriage queue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206127 (10SBisson) [13:08:20] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration: Cleanup draftquality data as pages drop off the PageTriage queue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206127 (10SBisson) [14:02:10] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @subbu & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:06:40] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Build article quality model for Galician Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201146 (10Halfak) I've just gotten word from @Nikerabbit that translations will be pushed from translatewiki.net again soon.... [14:08:07] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ORES, 10PoolCounter: Poolcounter lock time spike - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205976 (10Halfak) 05Open>03Invalid Cool thanks for checking it out. [14:26:38] afk for lunch [14:26:48] will be back soon [14:35:13] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE: Write a letter to JADE stakeholders - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197668 (10Halfak) Seems like @harej should be taking over this task. I'm not sure what priority it should have though. Feel free to move or decline. [14:37:03] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: articlequality scores a very short article really high in Persian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202573 (10Halfak) I bet this has something to do with our training set including Redirects or other types of short wi... [14:52:10] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @subbu & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:52:29] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: articlequality scores a very short article really high in Persian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202573 (10Halfak) Here are our FA quality observations. It looks like the first two are excessively short. Could th... [15:08:30] back now [15:23:22] o/ [15:23:27] Amir1, SoS is coming! [15:23:38] yup, on it [15:39:15] * awight causually slides a small pile of CR across the table [16:55:12] whoa, we just got a patch from l10n-bot [16:55:43] Nice! I heard it was coming back online today :) [16:57:30] Amir1: convenient link ;-) https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/projects/mediawiki/extensions/JADE,dashboards/default [17:00:46] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 031] "When renaming a key in i18n files, Raimond need to run a bot to fix it in translatewiki.net. I add them here before merging." [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037) (owner: 10Awight) [17:05:05] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [17:06:27] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Encapsulate judgment target [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/462053 (owner: 10Awight) [17:07:33] <3 ty [17:16:00] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 04-1] "I don't think this is a good idea, adding tablesUsed making it being cleaned once it's done thus next tests can rely on size of the table." [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 (owner: 10Awight) [17:20:14] have you seen this? http://docs.celeryproject.org/en/v4.1.0/whatsnew-4.0.html [17:20:16] OMG [17:20:23] so much work :(((( [17:34:33] Amir1: wow, and that's not even the latest release [17:34:44] lol although http://docs.celeryproject.org/en/v4.2.1/whatsnew-4.0.html [17:35:16] Luckily, our coupling to Celery is pretty well encapsulated. [17:36:08] halfak: srrodlund: Am I in the wrong hangout, or we're not meeting [17:36:13] *? [17:45:11] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE: Investigate MCR support gap for JADE purposes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204303 (10awight) [17:45:22] halfak: I put a note on the meeting that I might be late since I had to take my cat to the vet. I am online now. Do you and awight want to meet? [17:45:39] Woops! Sorry to miss it folks. [17:45:51] I forgot and didn't get a notification on my phone :( [17:46:12] NP [17:46:23] I'm in the call now [17:46:26] awight, srrodlund ^ [17:46:36] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE: Investigate MCR support gap for JADE purposes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204303 (10awight) [17:46:53] joining [17:47:24] halfak: I deleted the meeting, can you paste the URL here? [17:47:29] https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/wikimedia.org/ahalfaker?authuser=0 [17:47:29] https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/wikimedia.org/ahalfaker?authuser=0 [17:56:56] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE, 10Documentation, 10User-srodlund: Review and improve mw:JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206150 (10Halfak) [17:57:30] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE, 10Documentation, 10User-srodlund: Review and improve mw:JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206150 (10Halfak) [18:10:18] relocating [18:19:08] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Growth-Team, 10JADE, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, and 2 others: Rename articlequality and itemquality to "contentquality" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037 (10MMiller_WMF) @awight -- our team just finished renaming the model from `wp10` to `articlequality` in T2... [18:30:56] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464273 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [18:51:50] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464292 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [19:07:09] (03CR) 10Awight: "> I don't think this is a good idea, adding tablesUsed making it being cleaned once it's done thus next tests can rely on size of the tabl" [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 (owner: 10Awight) [19:46:40] (03CR) 10Raimond Spekking: [C: 031] "i18n review" [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037) (owner: 10Awight) [19:48:48] (03PS5) 10Awight: Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 [19:48:50] (03PS9) 10Awight: Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 [19:48:52] (03PS17) 10Awight: Encapsulate judgment target [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/462053 [19:48:54] (03PS38) 10Awight: Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) [19:49:06] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 (owner: 10Awight) [19:49:08] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [19:49:11] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Encapsulate judgment target [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/462053 (owner: 10Awight) [19:49:15] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 (owner: 10Awight) [19:49:17] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) (owner: 10Awight) [19:49:19] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [19:49:21] (03PS10) 10Awight: Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 [19:49:23] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Encapsulate judgment target [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/462053 (owner: 10Awight) [19:49:26] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) (owner: 10Awight) [19:49:28] (03CR) 10Awight: "recheck" [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [19:50:42] (03PS18) 10Awight: Encapsulate judgment target [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/462053 [19:50:50] (03CR) 10Awight: "recheck" [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/462053 (owner: 10Awight) [19:56:30] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [20:03:51] Changing locations. I have one last meeting today that I'm (hopefully) going to do over my phone and then I'll be off for the day. [20:06:00] (03PS11) 10Awight: Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 [20:06:02] (03PS1) 10Awight: Don't use AssertionError [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464404 [20:06:08] o/ [20:08:03] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [20:08:06] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't use AssertionError [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464404 (owner: 10Awight) [20:09:47] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [20:13:17] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't use AssertionError [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464404 (owner: 10Awight) [20:15:09] (03PS2) 10Awight: Don't use AssertionError [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464404 [20:15:12] (03PS12) 10Awight: Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 [20:20:01] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Rename articlequality to contentquality [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037) (owner: 10Awight) [20:20:08] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Rename articlequality to contentquality [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037) (owner: 10Awight) [20:20:59] ^ I'll rebase [20:21:52] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [20:22:10] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [20:22:45] (03PS3) 10Awight: Rename articlequality to contentquality [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037) [20:24:07] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Don't use AssertionError [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464404 (owner: 10Awight) [20:26:42] 463150 is failing because it needs the test robustness patch... [20:27:52] (03PS6) 10Awight: Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 [20:28:20] Amir1: ^ that one should help with the other patches' test failures [20:31:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't use AssertionError [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464404 (owner: 10Awight) [20:31:35] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [20:31:42] that is silly [20:35:21] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Rename articlequality to contentquality [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037) (owner: 10Awight) [20:36:04] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [20:39:11] (03PS39) 10Awight: Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) [20:39:21] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) (owner: 10Awight) [20:39:23] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) (owner: 10Awight) [20:40:09] Amir1: pretty sure none of this is going to merge without https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 [20:40:18] I made the changes you suggested to ^, btw. [20:40:30] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 (owner: 10Awight) [20:40:49] :) [20:40:51] Thanks [20:42:06] (03PS7) 10Awight: Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 [20:42:17] whew! ^ conflicts resolved [20:43:01] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Rename articlequality to contentquality [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037) (owner: 10Awight) [20:43:39] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [20:45:22] (03PS13) 10Awight: Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 [20:45:51] o/ [20:47:52] loud and clear [20:49:28] Amir1: looks like this poor thing needs another kick, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/JADE/+/463211/ [20:50:47] okay [20:51:07] (03CR) 10Ladsgroup: [C: 032] Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 (owner: 10Awight) [20:51:28] looks like it'll land this time [20:52:40] Once it merges, I'll rebase the others [20:56:07] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Encapsulate judgment target [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/462053 (owner: 10Awight) [20:59:19] I'm calling it a day [20:59:31] already worked around 11 hours [21:00:21] See you tomorrow [21:01:15] sorry about the holiday! [21:02:13] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Rename articlequality to contentquality [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037) (owner: 10Awight) [21:05:27] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Don't use AssertionError [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/464404 (owner: 10Awight) [21:33:23] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 (owner: 10Awight) [21:33:25] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [21:33:33] yess [21:33:39] the pain [21:39:04] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Make tests less sensitive to database state [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463211 (owner: 10Awight) [21:42:32] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Don't allow moving of judgment pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463150 (owner: 10Awight) [21:44:49] (03PS40) 10Awight: Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) [21:45:11] ^ patchset 40. My patch is officially middle-aged. [22:02:17] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @bawolff - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [22:27:50] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10JADE, 10Documentation, 10User-srodlund: Review and improve mw:JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206150 (10srodlund) p:05Triage>03Normal a:03srodlund I will take this. [22:36:19] (03PS41) 10Awight: Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) [22:41:12] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) (owner: 10Awight) [22:50:46] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Growth-Team, 10JADE, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, and 3 others: Rename articlequality and itemquality to "contentquality" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206037 (10awight) >>! In T206037#4639426, @MMiller_WMF wrote: > @awight -- our team just finished renaming the mo... [22:52:20] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @bawolff - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [22:53:48] (03PS42) 10Awight: Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) [22:54:11] relocating [23:01:17] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) (owner: 10Awight) [23:29:56] (03PS43) 10Awight: Secondary indexes for JADE pages [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/456078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202596) [23:36:31] > Pre-fill the forms in each document as best you can, doing the Addendum first. [23:36:36] lol @ "doing the Addendum first" [23:37:08] comic relief always appreciated on this sort of paperwork [23:39:10] The addendum is the one that’s actually a form [23:39:20] Also, do you have the meeting notes from this morning? [23:39:58] harej: From this meeting? https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/scoring_staff [23:40:09] Happy to clarify anything there [23:40:14] There we go. Thank you [23:41:07] We did bring up your outreach prep in the ores docs meeting, too. srrodlund is going to do an iteration on T206150 [23:41:08] T206150: Review and improve mw:JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206150 [23:43:18] awight: regarding an offsite, is that *this* November? [23:43:42] Apparently, though we haven't even selected a continent. [23:46:35] Hmm. I’m not sure how to feel about traveling internationally with such short notice. [23:49:57] I’m all traveled-out, to be honest. [23:50:50] Understandable, and Amir won't be able to get a U.S. visa on short notice. [23:52:04] And don’t we have that day during all hands? [23:53:02] We do... [23:53:17] hehe Career Goal #1: "feed and house my family in the Bay Area" [23:53:25] Luckily, nobody will read this.