[01:47:23] o/ [01:49:54] 10JADE, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Discovery-Search, 10Elasticsearch: Extract judgment data for search indexing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206352 (10awight) [01:51:15] 10JADE, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Discovery-Search, 10Elasticsearch: Extract judgment data for search indexing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206352 (10awight) @halfak Can you confirm that researchers might be interested in the fields I've listed so far? I don't want to burn too many sear... [01:57:32] 10JADE, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Discovery-Search, 10Elasticsearch: Extract judgment data for search indexing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206352 (10awight) /me scratches head. I'm realizing that I've been on the wrong track. Elasticsearch is only for the UI, so I doubt we want to ind... [11:30:17] Hi! Does anyone know if 'reverted' models were removed (for ptwiki). I don't see them at https://ores.wikimedia.org/scores/ptwiki/ anymore (but I didn't look for a while, so maybe I missed it being removed for a long time) [11:31:13] https://ores.wikimedia.org/scores/ptwiki/?models=reverted&revids=53219936 returns "Models ('reverted',) not available for ptwiki" [12:11:21] Helder! Yes. Reverted was removed in favor of "damaging" and "goodfaith" [12:12:07] We now remove the reverted model wherever we have those better two available [12:12:21] Did you want to continue to use the reverted model for some reason? [12:18:44] Not really, I was just trying to run an (old) script where it was hardcoded and noticed the error [12:22:41] Helder, Gotcha :) Speaking of these models, I'd really like to update the pt models with new data. Would you be interested in organizing a new labeling campaign? [12:23:55] Sure. I could try to do that [12:25:04] If I remember correctly you would need to generate a list of revisions for us, so that we can label. [12:26:28] Would it be possible to do that in the next hour or so? (I'm planning to go to an event where I could spread the idea for some friends, and maybe they would be interested in helping [12:31:23] (the event is related to https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/) [12:36:25] halfak, the campaign would be at https://labels.wmflabs.org/ui/ptwiki/, right? [12:49:26] Helder is here! Hello! [12:50:52] hello harej! [12:52:53] harej, I think I saw an e-mail from you some days ago, but I was not able to answer yet =/ [12:54:29] I'm try to read the pages about JADE today so I can help [12:55:13] Thank you! I think your perspective would be especially valuable. [15:23:51] Some things to consider, post-presentation: (a) how is JADE data fed back into ORES? (b) someone asked about a backlog of edits to review. I don't want to create a literal backlog and ask people to review hundreds of millions of edits, but it'd be useful if there were a Wikilabels-type interface to randomly suggest edits to review for JADE purposes. Maybe not our immediate problem but something to consider. [15:25:40] (c) Do we want the same JADE models/schemata for different wikis? TheDJ brought up the point that a small wiki and English Wikipedia may have different modeling needs, since smaller wikis may want something simpler. [15:25:41] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: How far is ORES in training? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207548 (10TheDJ) [15:31:00] (d) Our friend from Google(!) asked if the distinction between damaging/nondamaging and goodfaith/badfaith was useful for us (apparently it isn't for Google) and I clarified it's so we can treat people differently depending on their... fidelity, I guess. [15:31:34] (People who are screwing up but genuinely trying should be given the benefit of the doubt; those who are just there to cause trouble should be blocked or otherwise given a talking to.) [15:38:28] * harej is regurgitating memories as they come in [15:39:21] I opened my session asking who has reverted vandalism (most of the room), who has assessed articles (a significant minority), and then I asked how they coordinated their work. Got a lot of shrugs, "you can do that?", etc. Which was exactly my point!! [15:40:26] About 8-10 people in the session. [16:34:26] Do you think JADE could also be used for allowing users to marke AbuseFilter log entries as false positives? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T30213 [16:35:55] If so, we could add a project/tag to the Phabricator task so that the idea is not forgotten [16:48:04] harej, I answered your e-mail about JADE [16:48:33] Thank you! [20:54:26] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/JADE] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/468759 (owner: 10L10n-bot)