[14:46:09] o/ [15:07:24] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Documentation, 10User-Ladsgroup: Document/script ORES config change deployment process - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213743 (10Ladsgroup) Scap has restart service option but that works only for uwsgi, At the end by moving to kubernetes none of this matter... [15:12:59] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Documentation, 10User-Ladsgroup: Document/script ORES config change deployment process - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213743 (10Halfak) 05Open→03Resolved Good enough for me then. Thanks for taking a look at scap. [15:22:13] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10Chinese-Sites, 10artificial-intelligence: Chinese language utilities - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109366 (10Halfak) \o/ OK so what would be a good way to get a nice set of example sequences that are problematic? We'll need to set up the regexes for Chine... [15:45:05] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10draftquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Implement and test words_to_watch features for draftquality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214091 (10Halfak) Looks like there are some improvements now! Can you report on what the filesize differences are for the be... [15:51:29] wikimedia/revscoring#1607 (master - ff96c8e : Aaron Halfaker): The build was broken. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/revscoring/builds/489104996 [15:51:56] ^ It's python 3.4 We should probably disable that. [15:54:11] https://github.com/wikimedia/revscoring/pull/431 [15:54:55] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Remove python 3.4 from revscoring travis config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215279 (10Halfak) [15:54:59] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Remove python 3.4 from revscoring travis config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215279 (10Halfak) https://github.com/wikimedia/revscoring/pull/431 [15:55:36] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Remove python 3.4 from revscoring travis config - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215279 (10Halfak) [15:58:55] wikimedia/revscoring#1608 (no_python34 - e349940 : halfak): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/revscoring/builds/489109935 [17:00:24] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Graphite, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a graph of ORES Celery task queue length - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182914 (10Halfak) Confirmed during an event on Jan 23rd. [18:20:43] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ChangeProp, 10Services (done), 10Wikimedia-Incident: Investigate precaching blip (ChangeProp?) during Jan 30th ORES deployment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214982 (10Pchelolo) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Pchelolo The blip and ORES deploy seem to be unrelated and... [18:52:48] awight and halfak -- are we planning on meeting today? or do we want push to next week? I am behind b/c of All-Hands [18:55:23] Delay! [18:55:27] srrodlund, ^ [18:55:35] The AllHands funk is strong [18:56:38] I talked to harej and he's cool with skipping this week too. [18:56:59] the all-hands funk is *really* strong [18:57:07] i've basically just been sleeping since it ended [18:57:34] Same here. It's like a minor flu. I can't even get on the bike! [18:57:52] while overextending myself for all hands i thought "i am going to have to make up this lost downtime" and wouldn't you know, i was exactly right [18:58:13] i have... experience with this [18:58:47] h Yes. I feel like my introverted soul has been depleted [18:58:50] under duress i can be made to work a 60 hour week, but i have to make it up on the back end [18:59:24] even with ADHD hyperfocus mode engaged, that energy ain't free [18:59:31] I crashed hard this weekend and am trying to crawl out, but have a lot of blowback anxiety from just being off schedule for so long [19:01:01] I paced myself carefully for allhands. I *only* worked from 8:30AM to 10PM every day ;) [19:02:10] Making up for lost work time + trying to think about all the new things / changes we brought up + so many people + trying to keep some kind of structural order so I can stay balanced is REALLY hard [19:03:14] halfak: yes a lot of people were really All-In AND they had to travel. I felt a lot of compassion for everyone attending. [19:04:44] Anyway, y'all take it easy. Make sure you get your feet back underneath you. Sometimes taking a walk or a nap is the best thing you can do for your productivity. [19:04:59] Speaking of which, I'm going to grab lunch. [19:07:15] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10ChangeProp, 10Services (done), 10Wikimedia-Incident: Investigate precaching blip (ChangeProp?) during Jan 30th ORES deployment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214982 (10Halfak) Thank you for the explanation. That makes sense. [20:24:34] harej, was just looking at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153148 and it looks like it was closed "resolved" prematurely. Is that right? [20:24:41] Maybe it should be declined or merged? [20:25:42] halfak: probably deemed "complete" under a different set of acceptance criteria; i think in practice this task has been subsumed by the wireframe/mockup/implementation tasks [20:26:17] Right. Just thinking that calling it "resolved" is probably not right. I was trying to replay history and it seems there are a few breaks. [20:26:21] But I've got the gist. [20:26:39] Either way, that was really just a note and I'm not sure there's anything to do for it. [21:11:34] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Create new labeling campaign for Basque Wikipedia articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215351 (10Halfak) [21:11:55] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Create new labeling campaign for Basque Wikipedia articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215351 (10Halfak) p:05Triage→03Normal [21:18:35] o/ hoo [21:18:56] hi halfak :) [21:19:42] I saw your work and I'm happy to see some fitness gains on articlequality. I'm curious about the model size difference if you do go with the 500 estimates (or whatever the top GB tuning was) [21:22:24] I can try … should run in a matter of minutes [21:22:39] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Create new labeling campaign for Basque Wikipedia articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215351 (10Halfak) Right now, we have about 50 observations per class. We should aim to supplement with 50 new observations per... [21:24:42] Cool :) [21:25:01] brb for snack [21:30:26] back [21:30:33] * halfak continues the audit. [21:40:53] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Audit deployments of ORES quality models and new filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215353 (10Halfak) [21:41:01] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Audit deployments of ORES quality models and new filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215353 (10Halfak) https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges?uselang=en: yes https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spe... [21:51:07] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Audit deployments of ORES quality models and new filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215353 (10Halfak) [21:52:03] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10Growth-Team: Enable ORES RCFilters for Italian Wikipedia (itwiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215355 (10Halfak) [21:52:14] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Growth-Team: Enable ORES RCFilters for German Wikipedia (dewiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215354 (10Halfak) [21:53:13] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10Growth-Team: Enable ORES RCFilters for Italian Wikipedia (itwiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215355 (10Catrope) [21:53:15] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint): Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Catrope) [21:53:40] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint): Enable ORES RCFilters for German Wikipedia (dewiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215354 (10Catrope) [21:54:24] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10Growth-Team: Enable ORES RCFilters for Italian Wikipedia (itwiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215355 (10Halfak) 05duplicate→03Open [21:56:13] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10editquality-modeling, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10artificial-intelligence: Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Halfak) [21:56:30] OK done. :) [21:56:52] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Audit deployments of ORES quality models and new filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215353 (10Halfak) [21:56:55] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10editquality-modeling, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10artificial-intelligence: Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Halfak) [21:59:09] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10editquality-modeling, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10artificial-intelligence: Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Halfak) [21:59:12] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10Growth-Team: Enable ORES RCFilters for Italian Wikipedia (itwiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215355 (10Halfak) [22:12:38] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Create new labeling campaign for Basque Wikipedia articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215351 (10Theklan) It would be interesting of new articles are not municipalities of France, since we have a lot and they are al... [22:16:21] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Create new labeling campaign for Basque Wikipedia articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215351 (10Halfak) Is there a way we could tell from the title of an article if it is a municipality of France? Similarly, can w... [22:17:30] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: Updated ORES models can no longer satisfy configured threshold requirements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205320 (10Halfak) Just taking a look at this again. I can explain where the problem may have come from with fiwiki (using flaggedrevs as observations), but the othe... [22:17:49] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Create new labeling campaign for Basque Wikipedia articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215351 (10Theklan) Not by the title. Well... yes, you can download a list from petscan, but there's nothing but the name of the... [22:21:07] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: Create new editquality labeling campaign for ruwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215358 (10Halfak) [22:24:35] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Create new labeling campaign for Basque Wikipedia articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215351 (10Theklan) About lists: yes, all lists are in the namespace Zerrenda: 2019 ots. 5 11:16 PM erabiltzaileak hau idatzi... [22:26:09] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: Create new editquality labeling campaign for fiwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215359 (10Halfak) [22:28:10] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: Updated ORES models can no longer satisfy configured threshold requirements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205320 (10Halfak) p:05Triage→03Normal [22:28:58] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration: Beta not updating ores_model for the article quality model. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205317 (10Halfak) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Halfak Looks like this is working now and I haven't seen an update. Please re-open if it... [22:31:49] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Scap: Investigate: why are we getting overload errors during ORES deployments? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213116 (10Halfak) @akosiaris I'd like your input here. We're running into a lot of "After moving to kubernetes, none of this would matter" for some maintenan... [22:33:31] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Scap: Investigate: why are we getting overload errors during ORES deployments? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213116 (10Halfak) FWIW, I like the blue/green deployment strategy. I don't know if we could handle the routing component of that, but I would be very interes... [22:33:49] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Scap: Investigate: why are we getting overload errors during ORES deployments? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213116 (10Halfak) p:05Triage→03Normal [22:44:46] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: Create new editquality labeling campaign for hewiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215363 (10Halfak) [22:46:45] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Modify revscoring extract utility to include root datasources - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214723 (10Halfak) a:03awight [22:47:32] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team: Discuss splitting judgment content schema by entity type - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208067 (10Halfak) What's a content type? [22:49:10] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10I18n: Content quality scale translatable strings might not work as implemented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209884 (10Halfak) @awight, I seem to remember seeing a patchset related to this go by. Is it done? Or is this something else? [22:49:20] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10I18n: Content quality scale translatable strings might not work as implemented - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209884 (10Halfak) p:05Triage→03Normal [22:49:25] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Diffusion, 10GitHub-Mirrors, 10Release-Engineering-Team: LFS objects are not mirroring from Github through Phab to Gerrit consistently - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212818 (10Halfak) p:05Triage→03Normal [22:49:30] 10Scoring-platform-team: Gerrit repo scoring/ores/editquality LFS broken (smudge filter lfs failed) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212544 (10Halfak) p:05Triage→03Normal [22:51:01] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Diffusion, 10GitHub-Mirrors, 10Release-Engineering-Team: LFS objects are not mirroring from Github through Phab to Gerrit consistently - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212818 (10Halfak) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Halfak It looks like @Ladsgroup's hack has resolved this. So... [22:51:04] 10Scoring-platform-team: Gerrit repo scoring/ores/editquality LFS broken (smudge filter lfs failed) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212544 (10Halfak) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Halfak It looks like @Ladsgroup's hack has resolved this. So I'm closing. Feel free to re-open. [22:57:53] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Performance: ores sends duplicate page text over the wire - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214841 (10Halfak) We shouldn't really be having this issue. dig() should always only return the base datasources. I do not believe that datasource.revision.doc should exist in w... [23:01:53] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Performance: ores sends duplicate page text over the wire - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214841 (10Halfak) OK so it looks like we re-use "root_caches" when we should really be re-building the root_caches using the output of our extract call. See https://github.com/... [23:03:16] OK lots of grooming done today. [23:03:19] I'm heading out. [23:03:25] hoo, need anything before I go? [23:04:41] halfak: I think I'm fine :) [23:04:53] Cool. Have a good night! [23:51:37] wikimedia/articlequality#138 (rm-obsoleteTuning - 902d23b : Marius Hoch): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/articlequality/builds/489308703