[00:56:16] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Analytics: Emit synthetic mediawiki.revision-score events for both datacenters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214545 (10awight) After talking to @joal at All Hands, I'm now thinking that T211069 should be the first priority for integrating the scoring pipeli... [07:51:44] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10editquality-modeling, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), and 2 others: Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Catrope) >>! In T211032#4949099, @Halfak wrote: > @Catrope,... [07:52:30] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10Patch-For-Review: Enable ORES RCFilters for German Wikipedia (dewiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215354 (10Catrope) Forgot to say this earlier: I've scheduled the above patch for deployment o... [11:32:48] o/ [11:35:11] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10Patch-For-Review: Enable ORES RCFilters for German Wikipedia (dewiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215354 (10Ladsgroup) >>! In T215354#4950181, @Catrope wrote: > Forgot to say this earlier: I'v... [11:58:01] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test damaging and goodfaith models for kowiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161629 (10Ladsgroup) a:03Ladsgroup I'll do it. It's just I'm rebuilding all models. That needs to be finished fi... [12:26:23] wikimedia/ores#1283 (xenial - 0489cdf : Amir Sarabadani): The build failed. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/ores/builds/492669606 [13:55:04] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10editquality-modeling, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), and 2 others: Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Daimona) Thanks to you all, this is great! I'm fully availab... [13:56:05] 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: Write tests for ApiHooksHandler - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210638 (10Ladsgroup) Sure! [14:25:34] afk for lunch, will be back soon [14:40:56] o/ [14:48:27] * halfak looks at the review column. [15:03:00] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @milimetric & @amir1 - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [15:10:47] Amir1, I'm considering picking up kowiki now while you work on the other model rebuilding. Would that be OK? [15:11:14] Sure! [15:11:37] There is another pr on ores. can you take a look? [15:11:55] Oh sure. I didn't see it from the review column. [15:12:49] Would you stick a task in "done" for it? [15:12:52] {{merged}} [15:12:52] 10[1] 04https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:merged [15:41:26] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10Chinese-Sites, 10artificial-intelligence: Chinese language utilities - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109366 (10Tiger3018) I think it can help a lot. Most transfering can work in the rules with 1:1 matching, but it need human checking. [15:47:52] Back now [15:52:42] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @milimetric & @amir1 - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [16:03:58] 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10User-Ladsgroup: Write tests for ApiHooksHandler - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210638 (10Halfak) a:03Ladsgroup [16:09:57] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10Patch-For-Review: Enable ORES RCFilters for German Wikipedia (dewiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215354 (10Halfak) Thanks for flagging this, @Ladsgroup. I believe that there was a protocol a... [16:11:21] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10Patch-For-Review: Enable ORES RCFilters for German Wikipedia (dewiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215354 (10Halfak) See also {T164331} [16:21:05] wikimedia/editquality#483 (kowiki_damaging_goodfaith - f0aef0f : halfak): The build passed. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/editquality/builds/492761649 [16:26:15] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10editquality-modeling, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), and 2 others: Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Halfak) Maybe @Trizek-WMF could point us to texts he used fo... [16:28:51] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10editquality-modeling, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), and 2 others: Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Halfak) Aha! I found just such an announcement! https://ro... [16:35:23] Woah! I just found that the Gaussian Naive Bayes model out-performs GB and RF models for kowiki. There must be something weird happening in the fitness metric calculation. [16:35:42] Amir1, I assume you're not going to SoS today. [16:36:11] yeah [16:36:18] pretty busy with the TAIM [16:38:36] OK I'm on it. [17:02:27] Amir1, joining us? [17:11:22] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10Patch-For-Review: Enable ORES RCFilters for German Wikipedia (dewiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215354 (10Catrope) >>! In T215354#4950607, @Ladsgroup wrote: >>>! In T215354#4950181, @Catrope... [17:12:08] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10editquality-modeling, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), and 2 others: Enable ORES filters on RC for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211032 (10Daimona) @Halfak thanks, I'm going to translate and publish it. [17:51:39] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Growth-Team, 10Patch-For-Review: Enable ORES RCFilters for German Wikipedia (dewiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215354 (10JTannerWMF) [18:22:38] 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Growth-Team: Formalize fallback rules for automatically determining ORES threshold levels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213772 (10Catrope) The jsfiddle broke, because it made lots of requests in parallel and triggered 429s. Here's the new one tha... [19:16:45] o/ Amir1 [19:16:51] I was just looking at https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000255/ores?refresh=1m&panelId=5&fullscreen&orgId=1&from=1547655966943&to=1549339293290 [19:17:05] It looks like there was a spike in redis CPU on Jan 24th. [19:17:15] We did a deployment on that day, I think. [19:17:26] *spike --> step [19:18:40] I might be off by a week. [19:18:41] Hmm [19:25:29] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test damaging and goodfaith models for kowiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161629 (10Halfak) https://github.com/wikimedia/editquality/pull/188 [19:30:28] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_admin_log/Archive_37#2019-01-24 [19:30:48] I can't see anything relevant. The time of the step is between 1212 and 1218 UTC. [19:55:42] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Simplify and modularize the Makefile template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190968 (10Halfak) a:03Halfak [19:55:45] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Simplify and modularize the Makefile template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190968 (10Halfak) a:05Halfak→03None [19:56:06] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Simplify and modularize the Makefile template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190968 (10Halfak) https://github.com/wikimedia/editquality/pull/181 [20:36:58] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Simplify and modularize the Makefile template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190968 (10Halfak) Example configuration: {P8081} Example output: {P8080} [20:37:22] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10User-Ladsgroup, 10artificial-intelligence: Train/test damaging and goodfaith models for kowiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161629 (10Halfak) a:05Ladsgroup→03Halfak [20:37:33] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Simplify and modularize the Makefile template - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190968 (10Halfak) a:03Halfak [20:38:07] Amir1, ^ see my simplifications of the makefile templates. [20:38:16] I was able to remove a lot of code :) [20:38:45] Okay, I'll take a look [20:38:54] halfak: https://github.com/wikimedia/editquality/pull/186/files this is also ready for rereview [20:39:13] Looks like I have some remaining whitespace issues, but I'm really interested in your comments on the general strategy. [20:41:51] Amir1, checking now. [20:42:03] How did you decide which wikis to use the revert-window on? [20:42:38] for big wikis we have damaging model and not reverted so it's not needed for those [20:42:45] Good point! [20:44:00] Amir1, I think we need to bump the version number for a couple of the models because there was a (good) change. [20:44:17] E.g. hewiki and cswiki are implementing a new sampling strategy where we dropped sampling with replacement. [20:44:33] You could manually update the files or just rebuild them. What do you think? [20:44:46] We kind of need a model_info editor script! [20:45:01] I'm almost done for the day and I will be off for rest of the week [20:45:39] Gotcha. I could bump them and merge. [20:45:47] If you concur. [20:46:17] I'm thinking of just bumping the patch-level number because that is easy, but then it doesn't really communicate the severity of the change. [20:47:45] Amir1, one more quick thing before you go. [20:47:58] Github isn't clearly saying that these files are in LFS. It usually does. [20:48:13] Instead of "file in LFS" i get a "Load diff" link for the models. [20:48:19] they should [20:48:22] let me check [20:48:29] You could do a "git lfs ls-files" on your side. [20:48:32] it probably means they are not in lfs [20:48:35] Oh! I could pull down the branch too. [20:48:55] they are there [20:49:12] In LFS? [20:49:23] yup (git lfs ls-files) [20:49:32] Cool. That means we should be fine. [20:49:35] Thanks for checking [22:15:33] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/490456 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [23:27:50] wikimedia/editquality#493 (json - 35b87d9 : halfak): The build was broken. https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/editquality/builds/492972067