[00:01:51] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10User-Ladsgroup: Apply mediawiki core styling convention on javascript files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169576 (10Harej) Sub tasks are closed. Is this task ready to be marked as complete @Ladsgroup? [00:03:11] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels: The great test making of Wikilabels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171080 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Lowest [00:03:16] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Documentation, 10Epic: [Epic] Write user-facing documentation for JADE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199069 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [00:03:34] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels: [Epic] Implement Wiki Labels as a fully featured tool in Labs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151121 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Lowest [00:03:57] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10User-Ladsgroup: Apply mediawiki core styling convention on javascript files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169576 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [00:07:50] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Documentation, 10Epic: [Epic] Write an ORES manual - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188280 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Low [00:09:16] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MW-1.33-notes (1.33.0-wmf.14; 2019-01-22), 10Patch-For-Review: Rename "JADE" extension to "Jade" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211046 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03High [00:40:39] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Goal: Bootstrap the Wikimedia AI community - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197979 (10Harej) This is still a goal, but I am currently focusing my time on more specific projects. [00:42:02] 10Scoring-platform-team: Switch to a non-WMF hangout for the staff meetings so we don't have access granting foolishness - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180613 (10Harej) 05Open→03Declined [00:44:57] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Cloud-Services, 10Patch-For-Review: Keep wmflabs scoring boxes up-to-date - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168478 (10Harej) All of the VMs now run Debian Stretch. Yay! [00:45:13] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Cloud-Services, 10Patch-For-Review: Keep wmflabs scoring boxes up-to-date - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168478 (10Harej) 05Stalled→03Resolved [00:55:05] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Epic: Using TensorFlow in ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161375 (10Harej) p:05Normal→03Lowest [00:57:53] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Epic: Using TensorFlow in ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161375 (10Harej) For this to get a higher prioritization I’m going to need to know more specifically about what benefit we get for the cost of implementing it. [01:05:16] PROBLEM - check disk on ORES-web02.Experimental is WARNING: DISK WARNING - free space: / 1044 MB (5% inode=91%); [01:05:17] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Documentation: Create archive of past announcements to communities - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211794 (10Harej) [01:15:57] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Investigate why revscoring extract hangs on MacOS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193514 (10Harej) Assuming this bug can be reproduced still, it would be helpful to specify which version(s) of macOS and which version runtimes are being used. [01:17:40] PROBLEM - puppet on ORES-worker02.experimental is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [01:19:41] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: Dogfooding ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195239 (10Harej) Making ORES into a containerized service would help with this, I think. [01:21:08] PROBLEM - puppet on ORES-web02.Experimental is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [01:21:32] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Growth-Team: Contribution page: 'Hide probably good edits' displays entries that do not get ORES highlighted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176667 (10Harej) Please confirm whether this task requires work from the Scoring Platform Team. [01:27:43] PROBLEM - puppet on ORES-web01.Experimental is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [01:30:15] PROBLEM - puppet on ORES-worker01.experimental is CRITICAL: CRITICAL: Catalog fetch fail. Either compilation failed or puppetmaster has issues [02:13:40] RECOVERY - puppet on ORES-worker02.experimental is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 8 seconds ago with 0 failures [02:16:21] RECOVERY - puppet on ORES-web02.Experimental is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 19 seconds ago with 0 failures [02:23:41] RECOVERY - puppet on ORES-web01.Experimental is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 50 seconds ago with 0 failures [02:26:15] RECOVERY - puppet on ORES-worker01.experimental is OK: OK: Puppet is currently enabled, last run 27 seconds ago with 0 failures [02:35:20] PROBLEM - check disk on ORES-web02.Experimental is WARNING: DISK WARNING - free space: / 1009 MB (5% inode=91%); [04:05:23] PROBLEM - check disk on ORES-web02.Experimental is WARNING: DISK WARNING - free space: / 973 MB (5% inode=91%); [04:15:41] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team: Discuss splitting judgment content schema by entity type - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208067 (10Harej) 05Open→03Declined [04:24:13] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Goatification: Goat detection and evaluation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173126 (10Harej) 05Open→03Invalid [04:25:51] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Goatification: Goat detection and evaluation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173126 (10Harej) It is the opinion of the Scoring Platform Team that a goat identification model has such high abuse potential that we cannot risk unleashing it on the world, despite the milli... [04:33:16] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10Operations: Investigate memory usage of ORES in kubernetes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210264 (10Harej) [04:33:18] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research): Explore alternative model serializations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201047 (10Harej) [04:33:21] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research): Investigate using MLEAP for serilization of models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215732 (10Harej) [04:33:23] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10Research ideas: Analyze the effects of ORES deployments on counter-vandalism behavior - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200898 (10Harej) [04:33:25] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10Performance: Survey ORES performance since having a dedicated cluster and estimate our ceiling and padding. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201631 (10Harej) [04:33:27] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10Research ideas: Perform revert time analysis on two more non-enwiki wikis. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200899 (10Harej) [04:33:28] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Threshold rounding considered harmful - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200005 (10Harej) [04:33:31] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10Research ideas: Use an interrupted time series analysis on time-to-revert data. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200900 (10Harej) [04:33:33] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10Research ideas: Split revert-time analysis by agent type (bot, tool, registered, anon) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200905 (10Harej) [04:33:35] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10drafttopic-modeling, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Investigate runtime of tune with high number of estimators - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190288 (10Harej) [04:33:37] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10Wikilabels, 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Article quality models for Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162890 (10Harej) [04:33:38] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10articlequality-modeling, 10Turkish-Sites, 10artificial-intelligence: Generate ranked list of likely SM articles for Turkish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168075 (10Harej) [04:33:41] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10Spike: [Spike] Is Varnish caching ORES responses? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149223 (10Harej) [04:33:43] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: [Spec] Add score comparison check to deployment checklist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T160226 (10Harej) [04:33:45] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10revscoring, 10Spike, 10artificial-intelligence: [Spike] Investigate use of Apertium LTtoolbox API in labs/production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155111 (10Harej) [04:33:47] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Sentence bank for importance assertions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150777 (10Harej) [04:33:49] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10articlequality-modeling, 10draftquality-modeling, 10editquality-modeling, and 2 others: Investigate parallelizing the model makefile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168913 (10Harej) [04:33:51] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10editquality-modeling, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: [Research] What's the difference in scoring ranges when we don't balance sample weight? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145809 (10Harej) [04:33:53] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10articlequality-modeling, 10Spike, 10artificial-intelligence: [Spike] Explore issues with enwiki articlequality model - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136005 (10Harej) [04:33:55] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: Analyze the extent of the bias of damage detection models against anons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131668 (10Harej) [04:33:57] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: [research] Why is the japanese 'reverted' model so bad? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133405 (10Harej) [04:37:33] 10Scoring-platform-team (Research), 10editquality-modeling, 10artificial-intelligence: [Analysis] can the existing models detect a violation of norms/guidelines? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123318 (10Harej) [04:45:29] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10artificial-intelligence: Text normalization as part of regex extractor - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115566 (10Harej) [04:49:36] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10User-Testing, 10Epic: [EPIC] Jade Mockups: Prepare mockups of Jade initial feature set for user testing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210535 (10Harej) [04:59:13] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs: Use revision scoring to trigger flagged protection - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132901 (10Harej) The Scoring Platform team is not likely to work on this task. As a general note, we tend to see ORES as a tool to aid human decision-making, rat... [05:01:08] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10revscoring, 10Spike, 10artificial-intelligence: [Spike] Investigate stemmer for Turkish: Zemberek - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102337 (10Harej) [05:07:48] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015: Machine-learning tool to reduce toxic talk page interactions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120431 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [05:08:35] 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 10Growth-Team, 10Wikidata: Support ORES for propagated Wikidata edits - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158025 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [05:09:29] 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, and 2 others: Add ORES editquality highlighting/filtering to article's history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190768 (10Harej) @halfak wrote a gadget that basically does this. [05:09:56] 10MediaWiki-extensions-ORES, 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, and 2 others: Add ORES editquality highlighting/filtering to article's history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190768 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Lowest [05:10:10] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team: Propose Jade integration with countervandalism network (CVN) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213117 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Low [05:10:25] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10Growth-Team: "Report error" button for ORES recent changes filter - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209653 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [05:10:33] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team: Be able to flag judgments for additional participation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T209649 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Low [05:10:47] 10Jade, 10Scoring-platform-team: APIs to calculate and judgment page title - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T210014 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [05:11:06] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Services (designing): Investigate a Hyperswitch frontend for ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214874 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [05:11:17] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: Take advantage of word2vec signal in all models - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T197007 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [05:11:41] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Analytics, 10Analytics-Wikistats: Discuss Wikistats integration for ORES - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T184479 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Lowest [05:11:50] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10articlequality-modeling, 10editquality-modeling, 10revscoring, and 2 others: Add English Language idioms to revscoring - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205545 (10Harej) p:05Triage→03Normal [05:14:34] * hare falls over [05:35:27] PROBLEM - check disk on ORES-web02.Experimental is WARNING: DISK WARNING - free space: / 937 MB (5% inode=91%); [06:27:13] RECOVERY - check disk on ORES-web02.Experimental is OK: DISK OK [08:46:16] o/ [08:48:16] I slept for eight hours and I have 70 emails. Jesus [08:58:11] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: [Epic] Implement Wiki Labels as a fully featured tool in Labs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151121 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open→03Resolved a:03Ladsgroup This is definitely done. I did it. [08:58:41] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10User-Ladsgroup: Apply mediawiki core styling convention on javascript files - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169576 (10Ladsgroup) 05Open→03Resolved Yup [09:31:43] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-FlaggedRevs: Use revision scoring to trigger flagged protection - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132901 (10Zache) Just linking related ticket T218278 . There are in comments links to [[ https://github.com/4shadoww/stabilizerbot | stabilizerbot ]] which is bo... [09:31:44] 10[1] 04https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/https://github.com/4shadoww/stabilizerbot [10:41:23] (03Abandoned) 10Sbisson: Remove last remnants of wp10 [extensions/ORES] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/469480 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T203080) (owner: 10Sbisson) [10:57:39] 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team: [Discuss] Changes to ores codebase for migrating to kubernets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219708 (10Ladsgroup) >>! In T219708#5079457, @Harej wrote: > @Ladsgroup I feel like this should be a meeting? yup [11:26:14] w.wiki/o now redirects to ores [11:45:22] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Cloud-VPS, 10Data-Services, 10Wikilabels, and 2 others: Add a DNS alias for the wikilabels database (wikilabels.db.svc.eqiad.wmflabs) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219563 (10Ladsgroup) [11:47:09] O/ [11:49:34] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10draftquality-modeling, 10Patch-For-Review, 10artificial-intelligence: Implement and test words_to_watch features for draftquality and articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214091 (10hoo) This didn't do much for editquality: https://github.com/wikimedia/edi... [12:20:29] afk for lunch, will be back soon [12:45:23] back now [12:48:13] Amir1: what do you think of my idea to move “make model for X wiki” tasks to a separate backlog? [12:49:21] that's a though question, if it's the part we need to do something, I think it's not needed but the backlog that's stalled on community, definitely [12:53:49] This would mostly be the stuff that is stalled on community [12:54:36] My guess is we would have a “Review” column for tasks that are eligible for re-joining the main workflow [12:56:37] that would be amazing [12:57:55] hare: I feel your email about wikimediafoundation.org being part of the service was sent to the wrong email [12:58:34] Does Lea not follow wikitech-ambassadors [12:59:04] no, your email is answer to Johanna's email which is about something else :D [12:59:21] It happens [12:59:37] I wasn't sure so I thought I ask you first [12:59:45] The whole mailman flow is stupid, I hate it [13:00:00] It made me accidentally email a James Salsman post to Wikimedia-l (which was approved a few days later by the moderator, but still) [13:00:34] LOL [13:03:13] hare: I'm doing the URL shortener as volunteer/wikidata, my favorite bits are that 1- w.wiki/$ goes to donate.wikimedia.org 2- w.wiki/B goes to beer in dewiki and w.wiki/C goes to Crossaint in frwiki [13:04:55] o/ [13:05:57] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/01/trump-mexico-border-avocados?ref=hvper.com&utm_source=hvper.com&utm_medium=website [13:07:45] We have a national addiction to avocados; running out would probably cause riots. [13:08:02] (In Egypt they rioted over bread. I guess our riots are inevitably more decadent.) [13:08:28] But also there is a whole class of workers that cross the US-Mexico border daily [13:08:48] In all this presidency has been a teachable moment on how the economy works, and in the worst way possible. [13:13:51] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: [Epic] Implement Wiki Labels as a fully featured tool in Labs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151121 (10Halfak) There is a sub-task that is not done. The creation of admin actions. Wikilabels is not "fully-featured". I think we need to decline... [13:16:06] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: [Epic] Implement Wiki Labels as a fully featured tool in Labs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151121 (10Ladsgroup) I'm not sure if the admin actions should be part of this epic. Admin actions are separate thing from a "fully featured tool in Labs"... [13:16:29] 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10draftquality-modeling, 10Patch-For-Review, 10artificial-intelligence: Implement and test words_to_watch features for draftquality and articlequality - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214091 (10Halfak) Right. I don't want to close that because I think there's more fo... [13:18:38] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels, 10User-Ladsgroup: [Epic] Implement Wiki Labels as a fully featured tool in Labs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151121 (10Halfak) 05Resolved→03Open The admin actions were one of the primary reason for creating this Epic. I'm OK with debating the future, but it... [13:18:57] 10Scoring-platform-team, 10Wikilabels: [Spec] Implement admin actions for wikilabels - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102335 (10Harej) p:05Normal→03Lowest [13:38:47] hare: Johanna just answered you LOL [13:40:15] we should've corrected the email